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Subject: Aggrivation in Bryce


dglidden ( ) posted Fri, 25 May 2001 at 6:15 AM · edited Sat, 11 January 2025 at 12:26 AM

Tried to import Micheal and Vicky together with Sharky's angel wings and got an out of memory error. The .obj file was over fifty megs which caused bryce to freak. So I was forced to import each character seperately. And when I did finally get the two characters in, Bryce decided to make one of them smaller than the other. Anyone got a suggestion as to how to fix this glitch in an otherwise great program?


Allen9 ( ) posted Fri, 25 May 2001 at 11:23 AM

Just select the one whose size you want to change, go into the editor and adjust the size until it's right. Bryce defaults to some multiple of its "unity" size when importing regardless of the size of objects when created elsewhere. I never leave objects the size they are when importing. If I'm doing an indoor scene with people, I use 1 Bryce unit = 1 inch as a scaling guideline, so for example, when a character is imported, and it comes in at 40.96 units (a 'unity' multiple) but I want the dude to be 6' (72") tall, I grab an onscreen calculator and figure out what percentage increase I have to make it 72.00 units, then go into the 3D transformations item on the size-adjust menu and apply that number. Voila - it's sized to what I want. Then I make other items and/or characters the appropriate sizes via the same method, and all the objects in my scene are in accurate scale with each other. Then I can arrange them and don't ever have to worry about proportions seeming odd.


weirdass ( ) posted Fri, 25 May 2001 at 1:54 PM

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Allen9 is absolutley on the money with his reply. I usually match the imported figures up in an otherwise empty scene and match them up according to facial features, which don't bend and flex like limbs or torso. Sometimes, for complex scenes, I export all the figures together and import them into Bryce. This keeps relative size the same between say a dog and a person.


Ironbear ( ) posted Fri, 25 May 2001 at 2:31 PM

Yeah... agree with both Allen and Wierdass. I'm in the process of rendering a scene for the Tarot Card project over in poser forum, and my two main characters complete with props and clothing came to 25 - 30 meg apeice .obj exports. Without even trying it, I'm pretty sure that ipmorting them as a single file would crash bryce on my computer, so after posing them, I exported each character singly. I don't get quite as scientific as Allen... I tend to use the "grab a corner and drag" method of resizing. ;] I position the figures so that they line up in forn ot side view, go to solo mode and resize them to the scale and proportions I need. I'm reasonably accurate at getting them sized by "eyeball" measurement...

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KenS ( ) posted Fri, 25 May 2001 at 3:03 PM

One trick you can do, if you can import the entire file into Bryce, is while in Poser, postion your figures how you want them, then create a cube prop and scale it so the figures are inside the cube, then export as obj. When importing into Bryce, just delete the cube, and your figures will maintain correct size/position and wont get the textures confused.


Ironbear ( ) posted Fri, 25 May 2001 at 3:09 PM

Hrmmm... that has possibilties. Wont deal with the crashing bryce on huge obj's, but on simpler figures it should work nicely.

"I am a good person now and it feels... well, pretty much the same as I felt before (except that the headaches have gone away now that I'm not wearing control top pantyhose on my head anymore)"

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dglidden ( ) posted Fri, 25 May 2001 at 5:08 PM

Thanks guys for your feedback, but I think I didn't make myself too clear. The problem isn't resizing the character to match. It is about importing large files into bryce and having it crash on me or I get the "out of memory" error.


Ironbear ( ) posted Fri, 25 May 2001 at 5:45 PM

Ooooops. [looks horribly embarrased]

"I am a good person now and it feels... well, pretty much the same as I felt before (except that the headaches have gone away now that I'm not wearing control top pantyhose on my head anymore)"

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KenS ( ) posted Sat, 26 May 2001 at 12:18 AM

ok, one thign you can do is to import each figure one at a time and tehn save them as object presets, once in Bryce you shouldnt have any problem loading them all into the scene.


dglidden ( ) posted Sun, 27 May 2001 at 9:43 PM

That is what I had to do Ken and no I didn't have any problems loading them that way. Just a little time consuming to resize Vicky and repose them together. Thanks for all the input! -Darrell


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