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Subject: GroundShadows (Again)

arrow1 opened this issue on Jul 26, 2002 · 13 posts
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arrow1 ( ) posted Fri, 26 July 2002 at 5:37 PM · edited Wed, 08 January 2025 at 4:17 AM

I am still having trouble trying to render ground shadows in Poser ProPack.I have been following a tutorial by Robin Wood.I have a few questions? Do you have antialias switched on,Do you have cast shadows switched on,Do you have Background colour,Black or background picture buttons switched on.In surface materials do I render entire figure or highlights.I know I am to switch everything to white. And finally do I have ground plane in the Object window. I have shadows visible on the ground in my screen. I have two figures with shadows under their feet. I have for past two weekends trying to get some ground shadows rendered to put into a picture I am working on. What on earth am I doing wrong? Hope Someone can help nelp me? Cheers arrow1.

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Gort ( ) posted Fri, 26 July 2002 at 6:22 PM

I always use a textured square for my ground. If you can make the groundplane take a shadow, I've never learned the trick. The shadow you see in the object window is a guide tool to help you position things. 1)antialias: Yes if you want clearer, sharper shadows. Turn it off for faster renders. Also for a sharper shadow you need to set the shadow map for the light to at least the same long dimension of your render. 2)Cast shadows: You betcha.. both for the objects and for the lights.. 3)Background and lights? Suit yourself, be creative.

lynnJonathan ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 3:14 AM

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Something I have noticed about shadows and how they react to other lights. In this image one light is casting shadows but the other 2 lights make it look like crap and incorrect.

lynnJonathan ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 3:16 AM

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Here is the scene with only the one light.

lynnJonathan ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 3:18 AM

My point is that I find other light fade the shadows out.

williamsheil ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 6:14 AM

arrow1, Gort Sorry if this is obvious but the ground plane is invisible by default and therefore you won't see any shadows on it unless you select "Display->Guides->Ground Plane", or use the CTRL-g shortcut. For me this makes shadows visible on the factory default document. Bill

arrow1 ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 6:59 AM

Many Thanks for your reply.What my trouble seems to be is I haven't yet been able to render one ground shadow of any sort.I have gone to the poser manual,it is not much help.I seem to be doing something wrong.Cheers arrow1

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.

c1rcle ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 7:50 AM

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how many lights are you using? lynn here's a picture with 12 lights only 1 has the shadow switched on, the other 11 are set at 10% intensity with no shadows. arrow1 it really depends on where your lights are and how many you use with shadows

c1rcle ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 7:54 AM

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here's the settings for the light, the dial at the top is for turning shadows on & off for each light seperately, 0=off, 1=on

arrow1 ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 8:11 AM

I think I might be getting the idea. I am about to go to bed now.Can I post an update tomorrow. Cheers arrow1

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,4 Terabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 4060 TI 16 GIG Gig,12 TH Generation Intel i9, Dual LG Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,128 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA RTX 3060 Gig,1 Terabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 11 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus INFINITY Laptop 64 Bit,64 gigs RAM.Intel i9 chip.Windows 11 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.23, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.

lynnJonathan ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 6:32 PM

Actually I think The first dial named "shadow" is the darkness of the shadow. If you dont want a light to cast shadows it's best to uncheck in the lights properties. This way it renders faster since it doesn't have to render a shadow map. c1rcle, 3 lights. I think the 2 without shadows are around 70-80%. Just wanted to show how where your lights are at it effects your shadow. Obviously since light causing the strange shadow color is to the right it only hits flat areas of objects. If it had shadows on this wouldn't happen.

EricofSD ( ) posted Sat, 27 July 2002 at 9:33 PM

I've given up on shadows in Poser and merely use Poser to get the objects ready for use in Bryce. The lighting in Bryce is so superior to that in Poser.

c1rcle ( ) posted Sun, 28 July 2002 at 4:52 AM

I agree the lighting isn't great in poser but you can get some good results with it with a lot of work. I can never get my figures to go right in Bryce even with the smoothing it does. Rob

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