Hi, I wasn't quite sure which forum I should post this on (Cinema 4d or this one). I have Cinema 4D R8 with add ons but I don't know whether I need to buy Poser. I heard that the latest version is not very good, but version 4 is better. When you buy Poser do you get the models with it eg V3. and could I make amendments to these models in Cinema 4D? I know it's good to make your own models (which I am making an attempt at!) but I would like some of the Poser models. What are the tools that I will need to buy apart from Poser itself. I am interested in making my own clothes. Cheers

When you buy Poser 4 you get the standard models, Posette and Dork and animals and kids...but not Vicky 1, 2 or 3...you must get them from Daz, also Michael 1 & 2 and soon to be released 3. Well you got a really good modeling program so go with that to create models, read alot of tutorials like PhilC's to get you going. Other software, maybe UV mapper if you need to do texture maps, but I think you can create them in Cinema 4D. Sharen

Thanks Sharen, Have you got a link to DAZ? Is it possible to get these figures and then import them into Cinema 4D? Have you also got the link for PHilC' s tutorial please.

Daz is at http://www.daz3d.com/ PhilC's website is http://www.philc.net/ You can export from Poser as an .obj file, I don't know C4D but I assume it supports .obj format? Be wary of using any Daz figure as a base mesh to make your own from. Their EULA is pretty restrictive in terms of redistribution.

karen1573 is correct, should always read the Eula for Daz and Curious Labs models...as of anyones models for that case. I suggest you buy Poser 4, and mix between the 2 applications you have...then you should be all set. Sharen

And yes you can import them into Cinema4D, but you should read the manual for Cinema 4D to see what kind of files it imports. Sharen

Attached Link: http://www.poserworld.com

Cinema imports obj:s fine. Poser obj:s are very small though so it is easier to handle them in Cinema if you magnify them, and then shrink them again if you want them back into Poser, try a factor of 1000. Just for inspiration go to Poserworld (link above) and take a look. I think that all those things are modelled in Cinema.

If you want to do animation you need Cinema 4d XL V7 with poser 4 and the pro pack, so if your running both V7 and upgraded to V8 then i'd get those two poser items........if you just have V8 then i'd risk it and get poser5, reason being at the moment you can only export an obj to import to C4D so in that case you may as well have the dynamic clothing from P5 to use in stills...the pic i've posted is a sample of dynamic clothing rendered in C4d V7, now i cheated and exported the dress imported to P4 and then used the V7 plugin to bring it into C4d but the obj will work just as well it just takes longer to set up the materials...but i think there is a plugin for loading the mtl files for V8 ask in the C4d forum and they'll let you know on that and Reiss studios will be doing a plugin for P5-C4d V8 eventually...As Marianne says (thanks ;o) all the stuff in this image and at my site is modeled in C4d so you'll find the two apps work very well together using the 1000 scaling with .001 to scale back before exporting.......Steve