anything could work, there's tons of sites out there with Bryce objects, and a good rust mat would 'tarnish' any of them..;) just a thought, but I'd dunk it on the lower left, where the ripples start looking squarish, which would help..Bryce water's one of the few headaches this program gives me..;)

Rusty things don't usually float.

Can anyone send me anything i can use, that you think will go well please Phil

What if it weighs as much as a duck? Then it's made of wood... and therefore, A Witch! Burn It!

It's a fair cop .... but rusty things don't burn, and therefore they are not made out of wood, they do not weigh as much as a duck and therefore they are NOT witches!! Ha .... ran rings around you logically!!

ricky, would you join my round table? phil, go to planit3d.com. There are many interesting and useful objects in 3DS format, from cars to planes and water plants. You'll certainly find something that can be sufficiently rusty and will stick out of the water.

OK, it must be late, 'cause I don't understand what you peeps are talking about with rusty wooden ducks and stuff. Andnormally I can keep up with the twisted minds around here. In fact, I am one of the twisted minds around here. So all I can say is ANYWAY...... Rusty things can float. Look at old boats. Something to do with the weight of the thing must be less than the weight of the water it displaces? But thatsounds like witchcraft to me. As for objects, I think a shopping cart sticking out of the surface. OK, it's not a traditional object for such a tranquil scene, but realistic. Rather than something floating on the water, how about assuming that the land has looped around and get just part of the land in view and maybe a few plants. I'd do it in silhouette, but that's just me.

Sorry, I started thinking about things floating or not and my mind went to Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Try these for things that float,... or don't. http://www.3dcafe.com/asp/meshes.asp Hundreds of everything http://3dplants.0catch.com/index.html They have water plants including cattails and lillypads. Hope these are more help than my last smart alec remark.

Sure, Erlik .... have coconuts, will travel. But, drawbridgep, if a boat's reeeeealy rusty, it'll have holes and it'll sink. Most really rusty things have holes in them. Of course, you're saying to yourself, "but, ducks have holes in them and THEY don't sink!!" ... however, then you're getting into that whole weight issue, and rusty things weigh more than ducks or wood. So, how about a big ol' rusted out car???!!

Oh Monty Python. Duh! Sorry, missed that reference totally. Ricky, you never mentioned anything about it having holes in. That's a whole different kettle of fish, which would probably not float either. And most of the holes in a duck are above water. So, if a duck rusts, it gains weight? Where does the extra weight come from? A rusted out car? I would think that would float about as well as an unrusted one. Maybe i'll try that with my car. Which is the rusted one BTW. Night all, I'm sure we'll continue this tomorrow.

The extra weight results from either: 1. The accumulation of duck oxide from contact with the air, OR 2. The accumulation of duck oxide collected from other rusting ducks and brought to the non-rusting ducks in hollowed out coconut shells transported by European swallows. It's all rather complex, really. (Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.)

I would recommend a small ship/boat of some sort.

This is a shallow pond! (at least, that's how it appeared to me) so having something stick out would be fine. Though if you wanted to be sure people understood, you could maybe have a little sand bar poking up through the water so people know how shallow it is.

and what else floats?
Small rocks!
-Monty Python and the Holy Grail she turned me into a newt, but I got better..;) Any object X, by virtue of being longer than the depth of pond Y, will emerge from the depths into the air, Z, whether taking orders from a watery tart or not..;)

runawayyyyy!

"What is your favorite color?" "Blue, no ... greenaaaaaaaaaaaagggggh" I still wish they would have left in the character of the Boatkeeper ... "He who would cross the Sea of Fate must answer me these questions twenty-eight!"

You must return with a shrubbery. ( NNEEEEEEEETT )

Anyone remember the Holy Handgrenade of Antioch??? Countest ye then to three. Countest not to two, unless it is by counting to two, that ye countest then to three. Four is right out. And then, there's the princess with "HUGE ... tracts of land."

eet ssounds betttur weeth en outtrrrageous French acccent!!

Ruins are always good to stick out of water, flooded ruins that's it....or a yellow rubber duck, they don't rust but they do float and it would stand out, and it not witchcraft.......uh, did someone mention the spanish inquistion?

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

our main weapon is fear, fear and surprise, our TWO weapons are fear, surprise and a ruthless efficence... ... Amongst our weaponary are such diverse tactics as fear, surprise, a ruthless efficence and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope! ARSE! you english kanigets! Get the... COMFY CHAIR!!!!!!!!!!!! the comfy chair? the comfy chair? etc, etc.... John PS: stuff floats because the object has a bigger surface area to mass ratio

Actually 5 is right out..;) kanigits is the phonetic pronunciation of 'knights'..;) Fechez le vache!..skip a few verses, brother..;) And Arthur does say 5, but only after immediately proceding from 3..;)

I am totally confused but still amused. Hey look! I made a rhyme! :oD I really do have to start following hijacked threads more often. Have I ever said you folks are just a little strange? Have I ever said I feel so at home here?

5 is right out??? I must recheck my Bible. I know my Anne Elk routine much better (can even do the voice!!). It is now time for the penguin on your television set to explode.

hey, im gonna put a trolly floating, plus burgi is right lol

I wish to complain about this thread what I posted to not a day ago from this very website. Oh yes, the suggestions please thread. What's wrong with it? I'll tell you what's wrong with it. Its dead, that's what's wrong with it. No, no, it's resting, look. Look, my lad, I know a dead thread when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.

I'd back down if I were you. Pin-cushions can get really touchy when you talk about thread like that! Especially the ones that have the misfortune to look like tomatoes. Very bad tempers. And don't even get me STARTED on thimbles!

Oh, intercourse the penguin! How about a broken, rusting, sad-looking statue of some sort poking out of the water? Maybe a penguin?? Ok, maybe not.

It's not just any bunny...It's a vicous FORUM THREAD eatin' bunny!

How does he know that?
He's on Television, mum, he's paid to know these things
-Monty Python..again..;)
consult the Book of Armaments, though I don't remember the chapter and verse, bad Pakled; bad, naughty, wicked Pakled! he's turned on the grail-shaped sign again!..;)

Ricky: That should be 'Counteth' not 'Countest'..... Pakled: didn't we do the whole holy handgrenade thing months ago?

Hey Bryster ... you got a lisp???

but i'm nawt dead yeat... ((THUMP))

Who invented the word lisp anyway?!! Try saying "lisp" with a lisp! Whoever invented the word lisp must not have had a lisp.

woohoo! i got sommat right! what did i get right? this thread is pining for the fjords PINING FOR THE FJORDS! ooooooh, ooooooh!!!!!! bad french accent its just one waffer thin mint... what can it do? diner oh all right then..... BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!! splat, splat, squelch! can we start on the h2g2 quotes please? i'm crap at remembering film quotes. john

Bothered me so much, I looked it up. Not certain whether they said "counteth" or "countest" in the film, but, both forms were used interchangeably during the period. So = hast = hath, dost = doth, countest = counteth ... all archaic forms used during the same medieval era. And, just to give you an idea what an anal retentive I am ... I actually lost sleep over this last night until I routed through my library for the information. I now return you to your regularly hijacked thread.

i have scarped this scene lol

Ive changed my mind, catlin_mc has helped me out!! lol Thanks catlin_mc phil

Yeh, now that I remember, Brother Ambrose did have a lithp..;) I did a Holy Handgrenade originally in Strata .dxf (about a megabyte), and redone in Wings 3d (about 60k, I think..;)
And thine enemies, being wicked in thy site, shall assuredly snuff it..
Nah, yer'll be stone dead in a minnit
-Monty Python and the Holy Grail