/Rant I have to say, I am sick of the stupid DAZ injector system. It seems that the Injector poses will work when they want to. There are times when I can add a set of injector morphs and they appear right away, and other times where I can wait 10 minutes, with nothing showing. I can even add multiple times and get nothing. My machine is not to blame, its a P4 2.2, with over a gig of ram and a 4 gig swap file allocation. All I want is to be able to pose my darn characters. Rant That is all. Thanks for listening. Oh..and any help or tricks would be so appreciated. Thanks, --Eryk the currently not so happy with Daz.

Are you shure it's that, or perhaps Poser? After 3 serious renders, (P5 with SP3) simply stops whilst loading materials it loaded the three previous times. And I have 1,5GB DDRam. Up to now, I never really had problems, but I never really tried to use the prog before. And I'm only using one V3 with long hair, no background and a decent set of lights. So I understand your rant. Being used to Cinema4D, this is shocking.

It could be poser, that is very true Aeneas. However, Daz just started this whole injector stuff fairly recently. It used to be that the characters came with all the morphs in them, and thus no need for this injector system. I understand why they did the injector system, to save on model size and get a little extra cash from us having to buy extra packages such as the facial expressions. But wow..this is so frustrating. :( I have looked at cinema4D a bit, myself. it looks like a great package.

Poser needs to be restarted after you've used it for awhile. It's lousy in its memory allocations. You have to quit out of Poser 4 or Poser 4PP if you've loaded a lot of textures... quitting is the only way to truly clear the textures out.

If you're using Poser 5...you do have the !DAZ folder copied to your main Runtime, don't you?

I am using poser 5, and I do have the !DAZ folder in runtime. Its just a weird issue. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt work. Sometimes its quick, sometimes it takes a long time. Its frustrating. The project I was crying abuot earlier, however, I got working. :)

Before injecting, be sure that you have selected the right body part. At the bottom of the main image in P5, where it shows the figure number and body part, P5 will often switch the body part listed so that it says "Main Camera", or if you were playing with lights or a prop or posing any part of the figure then it lists the name of that light, prop, body part, etc... I've found that the injections work 100% of the time if you first make sure that either the body or the head (depending on which injectors) are selected there first.

The !DAZ folder has to be in the main runtime. The Poser 5 runtime, not in any other runtime. (Poser allows multiple runtimes, but DAZ doesn't support Poser 5.) Basically, this means if you've installed M3, V3, The Freak, SP3, etc., to any other runtime you have to copy the !DAZ folder over to the main runtime.

Also, whenever you install any updates to the DAZ figures (and there are always updates), you have to remember to copy the !DAZ folder over to the main runtime again.

If you only use one runtime...well, maybe you should break it up. Poser 5 runs really slow if the main runtime gets too big.

If the body part you are injecting is selected when you inject, the dials won't appear. You have to de-select the body part then re-select it.

I do have the !daz folder in the main poser 5 runtime, thanks. ALl my old poser 4 stuff is in its own runtime. I always make sure to have the right body part selected (made that mistake once, won't do it again, lol) and I do make sure to reselect the body part after the injection to make sure I see the injections. Still, it does not work 1005 of the time. It could just be something a little flaky with the way poser, the injector system and some piece of my hardware, get along. Thanks for all the great replies with suggestions. I appreciate it.

If you use the same characters all the time, you can always inject V3, M3, etc. with the necessary morphs and save them as .cr2 files. Cheers!

I know this doesn't help but I haven't had any trouble with the injectors at all

Well, I don't use Poser 5, I use 4, and maybe I'm reading your original message wrong, but when you install the injection pose, are you then twisting the dial that it installs? The feature you're injecting doesn't automatically show up on the figure until you play with the parameter dial. All the injection does is install the dial, then you have to adjust the dial to make the feature show on the figure. As I said, I could have misunderstood your original message, and maybe P5 works differently with injections than P4 does. Melanie

Thanks Mealanie, but the dials are what are not showing up. Thats the frustrating part..cause sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. Good idea Crescent, I may have to do that. Thanks for the reples everyone. :)

I find the injected dials never show up as long as the body part being injected is active. You have to inject the morph, select some other body part, then go back to the one being morphed and the dials will then be there. This may be a P5 quirk but the workaround seems to work for me.

I used to have this problem... Thing is, a lot of the inj morphs out there seem to rely on V3 having - for instance - specific face injectors already loaded. I ended up injecting all morph dials into V3 and saving as a new figure. Now I load that, and inject into that one. Hey presto - no more problems with injectors not showing up. (You need to select another bodypart for the dial to show up tho) It's annoying, but... it works for me. Silke

Is the figure you are injecting the first one loaded into a blank scene? The INJ/REM files won't work otherwise. Don't forget that the V3 mesh is a lot bigger than the V2, which is the other reason for the injection system, so you could well be running out of memory - especially if you've loaded several textures over the session as well.

Yea, it is the only model in the scene (Im using the Freak). I have over a gig of ram and over 4 gigs of swap file space, so memory isnt an issue. I have even tried using the injectors before doing anything aside from loading the default Freak model. And the results are the same, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It would appear, at least for me, that persistance is the key. If I keep trying, I get it to work.:)

The Freak... and you're using the Freak-specific Morphs? Or is it some M3 morphs? In that case, some of those work, some of those don't. :D

Actually, both. The problem happens with the freaks own morphs and the M3 facial morphs (which are needed to allow for any adjusting of the face, like open mouth, blink, etc). What is funny is, this has been happening on and off for weeks. Now that I post it here, and everyone so kindly replied with thoughts and suggestions, it has not happened again. Its working fine, lol. Guess one just needs to vent a little to make poser do what it should. Thanks for the friendly Voodoo everyone. :)

I don't have any of the problems above, so it might be somehting specific to your set up? The INJ files work all the time for me, and the injector system really doesn't take any tiem once you do the !DAZ trick. But then I run P5 for days at a time without problem so I msut be blessed by the gods of stability.