Original face morphs created in Rhino 3D and morph injected over one of the channels in Victoria 1. Yep, that is Victoria 1. Basic Low/Med res texture map.

BTW,The hair on my "Storm" pic is Arizona hair by DarkWhisper.

OK, here's further attempt ... I will admit that it is not a good likeness of Jeri, but I **don't** think it's a limitation of the software. I think it's a limitation of the artist. This is only the second time I have ever tried to reproduce a "famous" person in 3D, and I will readily admit that I just don't have the eye for it.

However, if you were to ask me if I was satisfied with the realism of this character, I would say yes. I think I was able to "unJudify" Judy ... and the only program that I used so far was Poser 5. No retouching of the texture at all (and I'm sure if it were cleaned up it would look a lot better).

So ... my verdict is that, with persistance, Poser 5 Face Room does have the capabilities that can produce some darned good realistic characters. And in the hands of a good artist, it can probably get much better results for a likeness than I did here. 8-)

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=608206&Start=1&Sectionid=0&filter_genre_id=0&Form.Se

I was having a look in the galleries today, and I came across this as an excellent example of the potential of the Poser 5 Face Room.

Wow, you are right! That is a wonderful character!

Sorry guys, the beonce one is ok, but I don't see the likeness in any of the other models.

Deecey, as I said before theres a million ways to skin a cat. When I want to create a face or body texture, I load the UV map in Photoshop and paint/clone on it. Using Face Room for this seems overly complicated, but thats just for my own purposes. No one way is better than the other, its just about your own personal workflow. The tex you've created looks good but I'd like to see a color match on the body. Also, Judy has very few textures available so you're either going to be making body textures from scratch or using her default texture which is very lo res. Heres an older attempt I made at cloning by creating a custom texture from source photos and then morphing the face. Im not going to name the celeb and I doubt anybody will guess it. Although these pics were a failure to me I did learn a valuable lesson regarding cloning; The mesh must fit the texture and not the other way around, as is usually the case in 3D texturing. When transforming a source picture into a 2D map there is too much editing needed to fit it onto the UV template and the basic facial structure is lost. as usual, this thread has gone wayyyyyyy OT and lost itself in an endless tangent. I never meant for this to be a debate about the value of FaceRoom, or the merits and drawbacks of FaceGen as a 3D app. I do take partial responsibility this lack of clarity and focus, as I did reference and participate in those parallel debates. But the bottom line is, if you ever wanted to digitally clone a real person, there is a formula that allows you to do it. Whether you choose to use that formula, just enjoy the results or scoff at the whole thing is at your own discretion. :)

And again I say you do beautiful work - so you CAN say that your results were enjoyed. 8-)

TY Deecey, my motivation in all the pics I make is to entertain and please the people who view them and occasionally pass on whatever knowledge I've acquired :)

"... Judy has very few textures available ..." Judy can wear all Vicky/Vicky 2 textures. (Same UV Map) So there are a lot of textures available.

Anybody recognize this guy?

its not george dubya, by any chance ?

Raw Meat, Batronyx. Raw Meat. And an absolutely incredible job of it. lol Any chance you'll make that face setting available in freestuff? Also, I would like to address two points, but neither are an attack of any sort: "...using the mediocre Don and Judy figures." (9) "But Judy is a failed figure with no support so using her is an exercise in futility. My figure of choice is V2 and her morphing clothes pack, as that is a widely supported figure with a large library of textures, clothes, etc."(29) The team who made the "lost in space folks" actually did an incredible job with them. The meshes are economical and the body shape is rather more human looking than the idealized form of other figures. As for support, Judy has all the resources of the stuff that comes with Poser 5 itself -- usually deleted simply because she's "not Victoria" and therefore somehow useless. There are a great many free items available for Judy, and she was specifically designed to take V2 maps accurately. What there is not in existence for her at this time is a large body of Sold work for her -- both because merchants don't think people will buy stuff for her and because people don't see anything out there for her. Furthermore, on the basis of distribution, she is hardly a failed figure -- if you have Poser 5, you have her. And she is easily as capable of changes as victoria is. The morph putty tool is seriously overlooked (and it works on any figure), and the face room is only starting to be looked at as a serious tool because just like all the other new things in P5, you have to learn it, and it is not as easy as it looks. (but people hate different, don't like to learn, and lampoon what they do not understand -- have forever) On the other hand, why in heaven's name would you want to spend time doing that when you've just spent a huge sum on the elements for V3? You have to get the value out of it! And, lastly, I want to say that you do some really awesome work, Zarabanda, and that your formula (which I will have to take the time to learn, lol) seems pretty cool.

Well put ynsaen,
Ive seen some really stellar work on judy and frankly I need a break for the huge force and loads of stuff that is V3. I have seen some very well done and realistic figure with ehr that have me honestly making me rethink her and the rest of the lost in space crew...

Looks like Johnny Cash, kinda. :> TMG

this was made 100 percent in poser , its v3 base

Some people can do realistic celebrity modelling without a image texture pic! All it takes is for one person to make and release the mesh onto the web and then that celebrity is 'done'. Don't people think this will eventually happen to all celebrities? Check out this pic by Mihai Anghelescu. From www.xmg.ro/miahi/index.htm

Now THAT is impressive! It looks JUST like Alan Alda! ;-) (j/k - it really is amazing!)

looks just like bruce, the important thing is to get the mesh looking like the celebrity without any texture at all, if u can doo this the most of the hard work is done, also it is important to find good reference pictures from many angles and study the person you are cloning , the Jolie morph took 20 minutes to create using V3 head morphs and V3 head sculpture pak, facegen looks good , but if the mesh is not compatible with v3 then it wouldnt be of use to me as a brokered artist. erm, what mesh was that bruce clone? mike 3? or another, was it morphed externally or in poser??

It appears to me as though it is an original mesh, but I might be mistaken.

Hi to all I'm following this problem since the beginning and this is my considerations: 1 - cloning a celebrity....where is the problem? if i want a render with britney spears i try to do something close to the original britney.....or i'll make a render with a unknow girl, but the cool thing of the 3d program like poser is that you can realize your fantasy ^^ 2 -Why in the whole internet is impossible to find celebrity morphs or models? the copyright laws protect the person agaisnt the one that want to sell those characters...if you do a celebrity (example britney spears) and you want to rename as "bratney Spars" and give it for free....where is the problem?????? all the sites that has those models are closed :((((( this is the freedom of internet? 3 - Facegen VS poser faceroom: who cares what kind of tool you use? if the results are good noone will be interested in what kind of tool is used; the artist will ask only about the method that is used ^^ for me both are hard because i'm a beginner :D but seem that facegen (i bought it, but i've not so much money to buy the service that transform the pctures in a fg file T_T) is amazing for the creation of faces from pictures (faceroom is a little bit tricky.....i never had decent results but i'm still work hard on it^^), but faceroom also is good, as i seen in the picture linked some posts before. I'm interested only in the final result.....sometimes i see the same discussion as when the peoples was fighting for what was the best computer between commodore amiga and atari ST, or C64 and Spectrum ^^ This is what i think......maybe i'm right; maybe i'm wrong; but the celebrity cloning is something that a lot of people that use 3d do, and many people search celebrity on internet for their render ;) so let's work to do a concrete post, instead of fighting if is legal to do it , or if facegen is better than faceroom :P

Where can I get this stuff? Digital Cloning is not under the Link by renderotica. Greetings Lupa