susan, it sounds almost as if you're getting ready to write some tutorials ;) you can do them in two ways: 1. with a terrain 2. with another program for modelling terrain-wise it can be a bit difficult. i personally use wings3D for pretty much any model I need or want. drac

Yeah, you could use a terrain. but it couldn't have any thickness. I'd just use wings like drac said. However, I think a lot of the realism in that rug is the texture. Which must have an extremely high bump.

Looks like the bottom poly might be peeking through the top poly at the end there. I'd try one but my computer is currently disabled due to drawbridge's quazi challenge for a metaball splash... rendering... ugh.. it's still got a couple hours on it too.

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Exactly what I need a shag rug... How did you do that tjohn?

it's a terrain with spikes painted on it at a high resolution. That can really eat up render time though in a complex scene.

Create a terrain, go into the editor, click on the symbol at the bottom left that looks like a grid, choose "massive resolution" I think it's 1024. Click on the triangle to the right of "fractal" and pick "rolling hills" (others will work as well). Hit the Fractal button. Use the "Raise/lower" slider button to flatten the terrain a bit. Pick "solid" on the drop down menu seen on the screenshot. Click on the icon to the left of that menu to get the clipping bracket active. Now click and drag on the button next to "Basic Noise" until it looks fuzzy like my map. The trimming of the edges is not essential, really, I just liked the way it looked, but you can do it with the brush. If you do that, drag the bracket up a little until you see the dark red replace the black. Then go back to the main screen and into the texture editor and add your picture. You may want to stretch the rug to get the right look to the image you put on it. Hope I got this so it's not too hard to follow, Susan.

The rug pic above took less than 10 minutes to render at 64 rpp. I don't think it would add a large amount of time to a complete scene. I could be wrong and usually am. And it wasn't spikes, it was basic noise (which give a finer grain).

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Nice approach, people !!! I also had fairly good results with even smaller terrain sizes, I guess it depends on the distance too, lol !!!! On that particular render U could easilyt use 512 or even 256 terrain thingie ! Problem is that you cannot bend the terrain objects (would not that be nice to have in the next version of Bryce) so if I wanted to simulate what that guy did, I would proly do modeling, extreme noise bumping and texturing thing, rather then terrain idea...

tjohn: I got to the part where you talked about dragging the 'bracket' up a little until you see the dark red replace the black (where's the bracket - is it the slidebar) and if so, I slid it up and there was no colour red to be seen. Also I don't quite understand the paint effect thing. I loved the shaggy edges on your rug. I am rendering a sample now so you can see what I achieved... but I don't think the shaggy edges will be there... I did get some undulations though... -Susan

Susanmoses, here's an area rug created using Rhino's drape feature. The scene was textured and rendered in Bryce: Image

"Obviously not done in Bryce" Why the heck not? There are many Bryce artists, a few of whom have responded to this thread (you know who you are), that can achieve realism like this in Bryce.

susan, for someone with a bryce gallery as large as yours, i'm surprised that these techniques are unknown to you. are you a victim of the bodysnatchers? :) drac

OK... since I served myself on this platter I'll have to answer this by saying that much of what I do in Bryce is by trial and error or accident... if you will... I am just trying to more fully understand just exactly what it is I am doing... architectural modeling... no problem... but materials/terrains/techniques... A large gallery yes... but closely examined... not a lot of true technique there concerning the capabilities of Bryce... I have a long way to go... so bear with me... I am learning alot from you guys... only the future will tell if I can put it to practice? -Susan

Isn't that top pic AS's apartment? I see he's got a bigger bed....

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=531783&Start=86&Artist=rickymaveety&ByArtist=Yes

HAD to get a bigger bed....#! pictures.

Lol, nicer than my try at it. AS

Agent...is the elephants rugs? LOL!!

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=1817026

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=559822&Start=1&Artist=Ornlu&ByArtist=Yes

There ya go, perfect. ;o) AS

Open Bryce, from the create panel select a terrain model. While the terrain is still selected:

1.-Ctrl+E brings you to the terrain editor.
2.-Make the terrain 512 pixel resolution and make sure solid is disabled by clicking on the down arrow at the top of the terrain canvas.
3.-In editing tools panel, click down arrow next to the fractal button and choose rounded dunes for your terrain type.
4.-click the fractal button until you get a terrain that satisfies you.
5.-Back in the editing tools panel, drag the raise/low option to the right until the terrain in the 3D preview just lightly shows the terrain.
6.-Accept the terrain, this brings you back to the main display.
7.-Using the resize button, elongate along the z axis the length you want.
8.- Also in the resize button, elongate along the y axis to add more pronounced fold to your rug.
9.-Add your texture and your rug is done.

Thank you to all who have responded to this thread… by name: draculaz (for your great ‘wings’ example – gotta check that program out), Ornlu for your fine example in your thought-provoking gallery post, ‘In my mind: where it’s safe’), tjohn (for your personal ‘tut’ and sending me your ‘rug’ obp), Kemal, Jaymonjay (for reminding us what great Bryce artists we have in this community), Innovator (another great example), The Bryster & AgentSmith (for making me laugh while learning), rickymaveety (for another great example and for giving me ‘Bryce’ as a gift a few months back… a “BIG’ thank you!), thuleke (for another great example), dBgrafix (for your xlt example + screen shot), vasquez (for the texture map and texture – I did use it), alvinylaya (dear alvin for another superb example – you nailed it!), and Quest for your xlt ‘tut’ and screen shot – I’m going to try your technique next). With your help my ‘Bryce Docs’ file is full of so many area rugs with so many different textures… something I couldn’t do the day before yesterday… If I ever hit the ‘Big Time’… I’ll be sending you all a ‘Big Fat’ check! (((((note to self))))… mucho gratitude, Susan

'scuse me but has anyone explained how to use the clipping brackets to Susan?Its litterally the long bracket right of the slidebar.Click'n'hold just at the top or bottom of this great big bracket and it will slide up or down.If anyone can post a highlited pic of the terrain editor it may help.This tool in terrain editor is not well explained in my manual,it took me ages to discover it and it is so very useful.