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Subject: Project Kaimira: Pt 2 The Next Stage Evolution


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Seraphira ( ) posted Wed, 17 November 2004 at 11:05 PM · edited Mon, 02 December 2024 at 7:00 AM

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Hi everyone, I want everyone to meet Kaimira, the next stage of Evolution!! Kaimira will the stepping stone of modern poser figure and most adviced realistic human figure to date. For those who have been following Kaimira's devolpment in the first stages welcome back and for the newcomers welcome to part 2 of Kaimira's creation!! Kaimira's Key Features: - Fully possible toes, wiggle those toes like crazy fokes!! :D - super advanced UVmapping with little or no stretching I will try my best. :D - Material sections for key areas to change makeup such as change you're eyeshadow to mix and match ur blushes, don't like the blush change it without removing the eyeshadow! - fully intergrated gums, inside of the mouth that is fully connted to kaimira's external lips which u where see here in these previews! No more floatie GUMS Yahohoooo! :D "me does a happy dance" LMAO! -fully acturate and atomically correct gentails right into the figure! - over 500 morphs body, face, expressions fx and other morphs to shape and mold you're dream angel to devil! realistic and acturate emotions. - Fully acturate hair line with Kaimira's hair. fully possible and morphable to change it's style to you're dream styles. -Fully super high res texture maps and tons of makeup packs -fully supported Minic and walk designer ready. Note to all: I wanted to create Kaimira for poser fans everywhere who wants a more open ended figure, to change every feature of her. make her a drop dead goddess or make her really nasty ugly. As well there will be a full army of clothing textures, and tons more. :) XOXOXO hugs all. here's the preview of Kaimira's finished head. I hope you like her. Seraphira Ps what do you want to see her hair style to be like??? I will post some ideas for you all.


Seraphira ( ) posted Wed, 17 November 2004 at 11:08 PM

Attached Link: head creation of Kaimira

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hi everyone here's the second view and more details of kaimira's face. I will be working on her body tonight so you will see awesome previews of that! I'm gonna model all night blast my head phones LOL! :D man i love modeling! actually i never had so much fun! :D XOXOXOXOXOXO oh here's the link for all those cats who haven't seen in the in progress of kaimira's head. http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?&Form.ShowMessage=1995108 Sera


Xena ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 12:04 AM

I'm bound to get shot down because of resource issues, but I'd personally love to see individual eyelashes as opposed to using transmaps. It's much more realistic for portrait work. I'm really enjoying watching her evolve Sera :)


ynsaen ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 12:32 AM

Seraphira, if, when you get to that point, you would like some assitance in mapping, please feel free to give me a buzz. I'm following this work closely. I've been using the same methods for constructing a figure strictly for personal use, but I'm not quite as quick at it as you ;). Nor as good. It's coming along wonderfully. I would like to see a mesh shot of the eyes area like the one you have above. Mesh density is a serious consideration for me, personally, and I am having some issues with it myself. Keep it going, and don't let anything make you give up.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


philebus ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 12:50 AM

Fantastic looking face - I can't believe the pace you're working at! Keep posting these updates, it is facinating to watch the progress.


Seraphira ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 12:56 AM

hi guys great ideas! Xena, unfortantly that would put a strain on computer resources as it is kaimira will already push poser's resources. ynsaen: unfortantly i am addicted to my computer LMAO! and i spend at least 4 to 16 hours every day working on her and other projects. I will be provideing a low res, this model u see here is the low res version of Kaimira. There will be morphs to seperate the lashes to make them fuller. :) I wanted to make sure as well that everyone will be able to use kaimira not just those have hulk machines ^_^. sigh i wish i had a super hulk machine LMAO! Sera


MoonRose ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 2:26 AM

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karanta ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 2:53 AM

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MachineClaw ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 3:10 AM

The ear looks alien. Seems she has two auditory canals. Check out Grey's anatomy book or some medical illustrations for some references. Yahoo search of "ear" and images brought up a bunch of decent examples also. So far the head look interesting. Nose and lips look really good. How ya gunna do eyes? Simple ball or cornea transperancy for more realistic?


ElorOnceDark ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 7:36 AM

Wow Sera! I had no idea you were a modeler of this skill! I've always admired your work, but this is amazing! I really look forward to the development of Kaimira.


Morris ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 8:17 AM

I am probably enjoying these previews as much as you enjoying modeling to create them ;-)


sandoppe ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 10:48 AM

Fascinating to be sure. I can't model anything, but watching these threads is not only interesting, but educational as well. I look forward to seeing the continued progress on her. Not sure if you mentioned it before or not, but what modeling software do you use and what level of capability does your computer have (ram, processor,etc.)? BTW: if you're sitting in front of your computer that many hours in the day, you're going to need a good chiropractor soon! Between my work and my hobbies, I'm in front of a computer about 12 hours a day....it takes a toll after awhile :)


Seraphira ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 11:07 AM

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hi sandoppe, it does takes it's toll on me after a while, usually my knees, u ever had ur ass fall asleep? LOL! hahahhaa sorry i just had to say it it was so funny but it's true. I'v had that happen to me a few times lmao. I usually go for 5 to 10 min smoke breaks to stretch my legs. The program i use is 3d Studio max 5.1 P4 3.4ghz, 4 gb of ram, 400 gb hd space with hyper threaded raid. :) But the model will work on slower machines I have a slower machine which i can test Kaimira on. Education is always a good thing, there's no such thing as can't sand, you can do anything if given the time. :D morris honey I am glad you're enjoying them. it's so nice to see people's faces light up with joy. ^_^ gives u that nice warm fuzzy feeling lol. Hi machine how are u honey? I am glad you're still following kaimira's creation and giving imput. :) i am not sure if it's the lighting... but i do know what the problem is with the ear. :) thanks for letting me know. oh yes with her eyes she will have a realistic eye with cornea transperancy, and seval iris layers to give a more realistic effect. There will be more options to the eye now with these new methods. :) Ps I am starting from the bottom and working my way up to the top of Kaimira's body, at this point i am modeling her feet. hehe. Ok here's a picture of a really crude leg LMao no toes yet which I will be modeling today. :) the leg is at it's lowest state as of right now. :) Sera


leather-guy ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 12:23 PM · edited Thu, 18 November 2004 at 12:28 PM

Incredible work so far. "I'm bound to get shot down because of resource issues, but I'd personally love to see individual eyelashes as opposed to using transmaps. It's much more realistic for portrait work." "Xena, unfortunately that would put a strain on computer resources as it is kaimira will already push poser's resources." How about including a "LashesGone" morph, like the old BrowsGone morph on the DAZ MilFIgures for those who have the resources for add-on modeled lashes or who want to create hair lashes in P5? I too would love to see a wireframe view, especially around the mouth and eyes to get an impression of the morph capabilities possible. Another random thought - How about including versions with and without extraneous modeled detail like the toes (often covered by footwear) and ears (often covered by hair) to soften the resource "hit" in complex scenes.

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ChuckEvans ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 1:09 PM

Joining back in. This is fascinating. (and serves as a reminder I should never undertake the study of 3D modeling)


oddboots ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 1:27 PM

Fantastic! ...bookmark :)


Seraphira ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 2:23 PM

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hi guys, leather here's a quick view of Kaimira's facial mesh i still need to add a few more around her jaw line and other key areas still. :) Yeap there will be eyelashes hide morphs. :) Sera


Giana ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 10:18 PM

man, this is so bloody cool... thanks for sharing your WIPs!! :))


Seraphira ( ) posted Thu, 18 November 2004 at 10:25 PM

I am going to take a small pitstop on Kaimira, just a few days. Sort of catch my breath. :) i'v been working on her for a while now with no breaks. :) But after my little pit stop i will get back to work on her. :) always come back with a fresh outlook rather then work and work and do a crappy job. Sera I will keep u guys posted within a few days. :)


Philywebrider ( ) posted Fri, 19 November 2004 at 3:09 AM

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AlleyKatArt ( ) posted Fri, 19 November 2004 at 7:14 AM

Her ears seem a little high/small to me, but otherwise, she looks at /least/ as good as one of the Millenium models! Is she gonna get a boyfriend? (pleeeease?)

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Seraphira ( ) posted Fri, 19 November 2004 at 7:19 AM

khrys, I was planning on giving her a boyfriend heheh :) you can always make her ears bigger with morphs if you wanted. :) Sera


AlleyKatArt ( ) posted Fri, 19 November 2004 at 7:31 AM

Oh! Congrats on posting the 2010000th message to the server. :D

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Seraphira ( ) posted Fri, 19 November 2004 at 7:55 AM

huh? who me??? :D


TamiL ( ) posted Fri, 19 November 2004 at 7:59 AM

This looks really nice! Can't wait to see the final product.


AlleyKatArt ( ) posted Fri, 19 November 2004 at 8:28 AM

Sera, take a look at the link to this thread. It's 2010000. :D Oh. The seam down the center is just because you haven't merged her face yet, right?

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Seraphira ( ) posted Fri, 19 November 2004 at 9:57 AM

nope I haven't welded the two halfs yet. The other side of her face is mirrored. "referance" it's like modeling two sides at once it's a nice feature. :) Once she's done all i have to do is copy other half with the mirror feature then attatch them together and then weld the verts. :D I do this while still in low res model then i just do mesh smooth and then collapase the stack. Voila :D I am back to work on Kaimira today. see it's nice to have a small pitstop.XOXOXO I will post new screen shots and preview images. oh my LOLOL! ur right it's 2010000! woot! that's pretty sweet. Sera XOXOX


outoftouch ( ) posted Fri, 19 November 2004 at 10:27 AM

I'm totally fascinated! That will be a revolutionary figure! (I hope lol) Would love to see more Sera :) Absolutely great work! Love those ideas with the eyelashes and eyes! This thread is bookmarked! ;-)


AlleyKatArt ( ) posted Fri, 19 November 2004 at 3:23 PM

Well hopefully, the thread number is the amount of sales she'll get. She's gorgeous. If ya ever need a morpher... ;)

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ChuckEvans ( ) posted Fri, 19 November 2004 at 7:15 PM

I must confess, I don't know if she's beautiful or not (though she looks promising). I always have a hard time picturing a female head without hair (embarrassed grin). But, I'm glued to this thread!


Seraphira ( ) posted Fri, 19 November 2004 at 7:38 PM

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hi everyone! :) I have more previews, Please note that her legs are not fully finished and there will be more details put in and i will be adding toes. I wanted to give her longer legs then V3, i feel her legs are too stubby LOL! hi chuck, I will be creating her hair as well hopefully i would be able to include it in Kai's package. Here's the mesh view, right now i am doing renderings to see the legs. I haven't done much work on her bum and genital areas yet. I wanted to do the basic body first before i put in the details. Sera


Seraphira ( ) posted Fri, 19 November 2004 at 8:09 PM

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hi i am back! ok a few things you might see wrong, her legs may look a bit off and her feet, as you will notice over time i will be correcting these errors, these legs are just a ruff draft, and which i will be adding more detail and molding them. these are just the basic shape of the legs. :)


umutov ( ) posted Fri, 19 November 2004 at 8:21 PM

Sera, cool that I didn;t miss this update!!! Naughty you, you should just drop a message when you upload these updates. It's really looking cool hun. Personally I think the final is going to be superb. I hope that the community will accept this totally more advanced than V3 figure and give her a hug. I can't wait to work on her and make her sexy clothes and characters!!! :)


Seraphira ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 12:30 AM · edited Sat, 20 November 2004 at 12:31 AM

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umutov,

I'v been so busy, to drop any messages these days. thanks Umutov :DDDDD

Hey everyone,

I need you're help I can't choose a hair style :( So here's the 8 hair styles i liked the best, each of them will suit a sqaure shaped face. What i wanted from you all is pick 3 styles from first u like most to the last. You can pick any one from 8 styles on the image... :D

Good luck and you're favorite hair will be on kaimira.

Sera

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Jenai21 ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 1:07 AM

I like in order: 5,6, and 1. Beautiful work on Kaimira so far...I can't wait to see the final result...Jenn


leather-guy ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 1:11 AM

2, 5, 7. In order of pref.


outoftouch ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 1:23 AM

5, 8 and 4 :D


msg24_7 ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 3:00 AM

8, 6 and 4 :-)

Yesterday's the past, tomorrow's the future, but today is a gift. That's why it's called the present.


oddboots ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 3:08 AM

I really like 6, but 3 and 8 are also quite nice :)


jaybutton ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 7:50 AM

I like 7, 4, and 8. :) Jay



Xena ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 8:04 AM

8 most definitely :)


KarenJ ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 10:46 AM

I like 8 best, then 4 and 7. Great work so far Sera. I'm so glad you decided to let us all follow the process with you. It's really exciting!


"you are terrifying
and strange and beautiful
something not everyone knows how to love." - Warsan Shire


ChuckEvans ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 12:23 PM

8 (best), 4 (not bad), and 7 (looks a bit too much like a hair style a women would be found with sipping champagne at an "A list" party...not what I see her as in my mind). To sum up, I'm expecting something that can range from 18 -24 and sassy. Doesn't mind saying what's on her mind and telling a guy with a sad pick-up line in a bar to get lost. Confident look on her face. With a bit of wild streak in her. And, for that kind of personality, I see #8 and #4 fitting the best. I don't mind #6 so much but it would definitely need some morphs to get the hair out of the eyes (when necessary). # 1 looks like Nana Visitor...and that style looks a bit too wild (and therefore not offering enough "range) for various types of use. OK, there! Said my piece. Hope no offense.


sandoppe ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 5:21 PM

In this order: 6, 4 and 8


Seraphira ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 5:45 PM

thanks everyone for helping me... so here are the results. style 8: came in with 8 votes style 4: Came in with 6 Votes Style 6 & 7: Are tied with 4 votes each style 5: Came in with 3 Votes Style 1, 2, 3: Each Came in with one vote. So the top winners are Style 8 will be default hair, and styles 4, 6, and 7 will be add on packs. :D wow what a turn out for the poll guys. :D ohh yes I gotta post some images for u guys! Sera ps thank you everyone! :D


Ardiva ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 7:20 PM

I just saw this thread, Sera and I think you have a wonderful new package going here! Brava!! I also like the choice in hair styles as well. It's good that you have the community involved in this project of yours as it shows you care very much for their opinions. smile



ChuckEvans ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 8:40 PM

Ditto Ardiva!


Seraphira ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 9:06 PM

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Hi sweethearts :), *Super Grin* I think it's very important to have the community to have a say in Kaimira's creation because I want her to be what everyone wants and needs. I think it's important specially in a project this size the people should comment or have a wish they wanna see Kaimira have, it helps me to create a better model, Besides I have so much fun showing the previews and see the people's faces light up it also keeps me going and going too makes me work harder. :) I think people's opinions are very important good and the bad. Speaking of treats! I am doing the upper part of the body and will attatch her head soon Kaimira's body is still in the low grade version and tons of detail and resizing key areas still need to be done Once she's finished We will start the Material sections while still in low res it's alot easier specially on this type of model. :) it's quick and easier this way specially for me LOL! I will show some more previews on this. now question folks, about the nails? Do you want different shapes like oval tips, sqaure tips, pointed tips, straight and curved long nails and short nails. I will be doing the nails different as well since real nails have a sight transperancy to them not seethrough but it will give a sense of realism to the nail as well the user can remove the nails alltogether with morphs say someone banged their thumb and it was damaged. I will show some previews on what i mean to give an idea. XOXOX Sera I love to hear ur rants and raves thoughts and concerns. :D but please note that her body is still in the stage of devolpment. :)


Xena ( ) posted Sat, 20 November 2004 at 9:42 PM

I always set Vicki's nails to about 15% transparency, so I'm REALLY glad you've given Kaimira's some thought :) Yes please on the tip shapes. I know for myself I like to have different shapes sometimes, as it really changes the look of your whole hand. Body is looking good so far. Love those long legs ;) Poor girl has hips like me ;P


outoftouch ( ) posted Sun, 21 November 2004 at 3:20 AM

Love those long lengs too :) And I would really like to have some different nail shapes too! That's a great idea :)


ynsaen ( ) posted Sun, 21 November 2004 at 4:04 AM

THis might sound odd... 1 - yes on nail tip shapes. Bitten, broken, manicured, boy 2 - Nail length morphs that actually curve a bit would be nice, too. however, what I think would really be a great feature is a "claws" morph. Something where the nail and finger become a claw, perhaps slightly different degrees of beastiness.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


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