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Welcome to the photo forum Chris! :]
Honestly if I saw one of my photos in someone else's work without my permission (which I have) I don't think I'd be as pleased... that little you use should tell them it's not for fair use... but sure, I agree giving away photos to friends & family is nice
(there's also an artist member page ("my homepage" under the drop down box "member options") where you can upload info & a photo of yourself)
Enjoy your stay! look forward to seeing more of your work! :]
Message edited on: 03/16/2005 11:19
Welcome to the forum....! Look forward to seeing your work.... :~)
For me it's not about making money it's about having the courtesy to ask permission first..... surely it would be granted in most instances? I too stumbled upon my work that had been taken and used without asking..... I don't remember being too happy about it. Edited for spelling.
Message edited on: 03/16/2005 11:38
I am, therefore I create.......
--- michelleamarante.com
Ooooh if only i were able to produce something that someone else would wanna use.....sigh...welcome by the way #:o)
How come we say 'It's colder than hell outside' when
isn't it realistically always colder than hell since hell is
supposed to be fire and brimstone?
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I think you will enjoy your stay here,and we also look forward to any tips and work in progress you may want to post in these forums. Many of us would jump at a chance to learn tidbits from those with more experience. Welcome again
"The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the
absence but in the mastery of his passions."
I dunno Christopher, I doubt Stephen King would be too happy if I used a chapter from one of his stories in a book of my own.... Record Companies are even now kicking off at DJ's just for using tiny SECTIONS of songs in mixes.... and I'd seek and destroy anyone 'borrowing' sections of my images without asking. uh-uh. Copyright is copyright is copyright. When the person asked you hypothetically if you would like your image to be used, I think they were being polite about saying it shouldn't really be done. Not everyone is as forthright as me and New Yorkers ;-) btw - love the "Many of you go goo goo gaa gaa over them but the reality is they are just photographs" he he he!!! I'll have to remember that one! (",) btw, sorry if I seem a bit harsh on the copyright point, but we've recently had the subject clarified here in the forum, and in retrospect Renderosity's stand on the subject is very clear and understandable.
Yep I think we all agree on copyrights in here! It's an honor when someone wants to use ur work of course, but why not ask for it first?? As Michelle said, the answer will surely be yes anyway! But to find out that someone has been using ur work without asking is kinda VERY annoying! Anyway, nice to meet u! :)
My take on (borrowing) others work is ...why? Maybe to use a desktop item for a week,but the satisfaction for me comes in creating all my own work. I borrow ideas for photographs, but that is more a compliment. With digital cameras now it is so fast to just go out and shoot something you need for a collage or challenge.With all the tools available and somewhat affordable now, there is no need to spend useless hours searching the internet to steal someone elses creations. Anyway soon enough this whole copyright scenario will get across all our members(I hope) This also goes for lyrics to songs or poems. We allow only a portion of a verse to be used,with a credit to the artist of that. The link for our policies is: http://www.renderosity.com/index.ez?viewLink=328
"The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the
absence but in the mastery of his passions."
welcome christopher.. lm sure its going to be a joy, and promise not go ,"Go Goo Ga Ga" but might go !@#$%^& and count to hundred, and as for copyright and plagiarism..prefer to be as authentic as possible, unless inspiration has been a feature in the concept at hand.. but firmly believe in the copy rights laws basically out of repect for the author or artist at hand..and the pure pleasure finding out ones own artistic discovery. have fun and enjoy the forum nikki
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well again to clairfy this whole thing, I only used John Lennons face as a minor insert of the over all image. I contacted the agency who represents Mr. Bob Gruen Virginia Lohle, Star File Photo Agency through the telephone number provided on his site. And their statement to me was if the image is not being used for commercial uses then their agency would not see it as a problem to be used in the image presented to us. However just to avoid any futher stink over this... I will not post this image with John's face over looking Strawberry Fields which I entitled.. "The Legend Lives On.." I guess his legend will not even be kindled in the Renderosity galleries. However get ready for a series of Imagine Mozaic shots... AND THESE I took.
Peace,
Christopher
Message edited on: 03/16/2005 23:25
Dear Chris...
I think you're missing the point...
Without creating any further "stink" as you say...
Your image is more then welcome in RR's 2D or MM galleries, especially since you've been given permission to use it...
now if you'd like us to change our banner write-up:
"This gallery is for Renderosity members to display their ORIGINAL photographs for review, critique and feedback from other Renderosity members. Please use your judgment when uploading photo manipulations and photographs that have been heavily changed. Images containing 2D elements, stock photography or 3D elements should be uploaded to the Mixed Medium or 2D galleries."
which we discussed here not that long ago in great lengths, to accommodate you & others who'd like to upload photos which include even a little "stock or non original" photos then by all means we can discuss it as the mods & coords are here to make you feel welcome & discuss anything you or other members think might need changed in the photo gallery & see to any changes the majority would like
again, we look forward to your work
peace cindy :]
Message edited on: 03/16/2005 23:50
I believe our discussions of late have quite clarified how and what the majority would like to see the Photography Galleries. As cynlee says there is other sections to post work in. Provided you have "written authorization to use other peoples work" then feel free to upload it in appropriate galleries. As I have brought up with other moderators, coords and admin...the Photography section does not benefit from a lot of 2D work or manipulated beyond photo images. Many of us would like to learn the art of photography and will not if we see these manips. ----------------------------------------------------- Anyway the forum is not as strict as the galleries for WIPS and such so people do not mind so much seeing other methods of photography and post work use.I welcome it. ------------------------------------------------------- It always can be put back in question as to "What do we want to see in the gallery here?" The door never closes.
"The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the
absence but in the mastery of his passions."
Hi Christopher, I'm glad that cleared up then ;-) Just a quick point; "I guess his legend will not even be kindled in the Renderosity galleries." is a bit strong - we're simply saying that it won't be displayed in the photography gallery ;-) I'm sure even John Lennon understood and lived by basic rules and the rights of democracy... and let's face it, he won't exactly be rolling in his grave just because a single person can't display an image in a gallery will he? The only person this is negatively affecting is yourself. And on a positive note, it also means the photography gallery won't be kindling the 'legends' of Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussain, Ted Bundy or Kylie Minogue, thankfully. Saying that, if someone does have some GENUINE, self-taken photo's of Mz. Minogue in the altogether they'd be more than welcome ;-) And ah, sorry, but I'm narrow minded and stick mostly to the photography gallery, so I won't have the opportunity to go gaa-gaa over the mosaic pictures you'll be posting..... oh, hold on.... you seem like a guy of principle and tradition from your post? Surely the mosaic shots (and indeed the John Lennon manipulation shot) are... how did you put it in your intro when describing Digital? ah, yes you "Dont really care for it all that much, because there isnt a real record of it, just a bunch of bits and bytes that are too easily lost. I am an old school photographer if you havent gathered this by now." Hmm. ok. (",)
In response to ReborneUK, the Mosaic images were actually shot in 35mm, using a Canon EOS A2E with a 72mm 28-200 Sigma Aspherical Ultra using Fuji Supra Pro 800 film. The only reason that my images are digitized is because I had the lab who processes my film create a CDROM for me in addition to slides. If I decide to digitally manipuliate my photography, by adding frames, text, filters, and or even super emposing another photograph into another, and lets not even try to forget about posting them online they HAVE TO BE DIGITALIZED... However a there is many ways to manipuilate film photos before even taking the film out of the camrea. That can be done by double exposure on film, and using filters as well... but in order to do this with a manual type camera, such as a Pentax ME 35mm, or Medium to Large Format, so that way you can rewind your film to the previous frame to get your double exposure.
ahhh... not having seen your mosaic shots (your gallery only had 1 image at the time?) I misunderstood them to be manipulations... not actually TILE mosaics! Having seen your image that is obviously quite clear now. I have to admit, in your initial post you come across as being very self-orientated, even (dare I say it?) a little big-headed, which along with the copyright issue (which we do feel quite strongly about in this forum) may have presented you in a bit of a bad light to the regulars... obviously bearing in mind that while you type something with a particular mindframe the emotion behind the comment is completely lost when we just have the text to read. Looking at it from our side, your first couple of sentences made no sense whatsoever, (your gallery only had a single image) hence the poking fun at your 'gaa gaa' statement....then namedropping like that, well it just made you seem like a spoilt brat..... some of us here have sh*tloads of talent but not the finances to go with it, but as the 'family' that we are here we don't go shoving either in peoples' faces. Basically, over inflation of an ego, getting cocky or getting pathetically advanced or simplistic around here just makes a bigger target for some of us to shoot at.... and some of us like hunting BIG TIME! OK, that's me being VERY blunt and honest which may go someways towards you understanding your lukewarm reception so far.... as you can see by my comments about your pic, I don't give a damn whether I like people or not if I'm looking at their work - I'll be honest if I think it's good, and honest if it's a crock of sh!t. Anyways, I'm willing to turn the temperature up a bit now and give you a slightly warmer welcome. Class is now back in order, but if I catch anybody being cocky and swinging back on their chairs, I might just be tempted to kick the leg away..... seeing as how I'm crawling around on the floor after climbing out of the gutter ;-) (",)
Can someone please be so kind and explain to this stupid swede what "boystrously" means??? My silly dictionary dont cover such big words....sigh....nor does it cover "seathing"...ah well....
How come we say 'It's colder than hell outside' when
isn't it realistically always colder than hell since hell is
supposed to be fire and brimstone?
____________________
Andreas
Mystic
Pic
I might have spelled it incorrectly... but boystrous means somthing to the effect of, loudly and or obnoxious. seathing is a term used to discribe something that is just dripping with bitterness. For what reason, not sure, but that is ok... I will deal with it. I dont get angry or nasty easily, however.. I am begining to loose my patience with the respsonses from a certian individual who didnt get an opportunity to see my gallery before I tore it down and started over with it... who is so quick to make his seathing comments. Which is why his remarks about calling me "big headed" really doesnt effect me. For those who did see the gallery before I tore it down... you know I posted some beautiful, well framed, and as some said... AMAZING shots. And I am sure those who did make comments would concure this as well. Cheers, Christopher
I think he was referring to the fact it's boisterous, Chris. And seething. But Zacko, shame on you - you missed out DISSERTATIONS!
And you're beginning to LOSE your patience with me (I take it I'm the CERTAIN individual?) and my RESPONSES? Must be something to with the SCOTISH influence of your upbringing, huh? ;-)
By the way.......
- It wasn't a rant. It was a detailed explanation.
- If you want to refer to me at least have the decency to do so by name. I use yours, at least be civil enough to do the same.
- My comments weren't seething. Please feel free to point out where they are either violent or agitated.
- Please feel free to also point out where it becomes boisterous.
- Yes, I enjoy writing long posts when necessary. Should you care to take a look at other threads, I also post short ones. Horses for courses. I could have kept it short by simply saying my first impression of you is that you were a right to55er. However, I chose the polite way to say it and fully explained how I came to that conclusion.
- You don't HAVE to read my comments. As I post to virtually every thread in the forum the easiest way to not read them is not come here.
- If you deleted your gallery previously then what on earth was the use of referring to it? This isn't the Psychic forum.
- Considering I have frequented the RR photography gallery and forum for about 4 years, I have had ample opportunity to view your work. Obviously I didn't find any of your pictures of enough interest to view, or if I did, to take much notice of.
- You say you've taken some amazing shots. Great. That's what photography is about. By the law of averages if you take enough pictures then someone is going to find some of them amazing.
- We also have taken amazing shots. All of us here.
- Hopefully by now you've got sick of me and gone. If not, please let me know and I'll continue. Happily.
(")
Message edited on: 03/18/2005 14:58
Erm...ok Chris, chill out! I thought Mike was actually really nice here, believe it or not! But honesty isn't an easy thing to swallow for some, I can understand that! Now that said, I also have to say that I totally agree with him about the first impression u made, on me anyway! As for ur work, U surely are a great photographer since u say so but, so far, I didn't see any of these amazing shots of urs since u deleted ur previous gallery! May I ask why btw? Or am I being too nosy? Anyway, I had to add my 2c here and I can't wait to see more of ur work, honestly! ;)
I think that is pretty much what i have been saying Cynlee...for some time now... back when i said "understood and well taken." but for some reason the person's name that has been unbeknownst to me until just a little while ago, Mike, has been continuing this for far too long... PLEASE GET OVER IT.... MOVE ON... Christopher
Oops! Now I think he's pretty upset! Not good! LOL! Oh well! I don't want to make things worse Chris but when u said "understood and well taken" it was actually referring to the copyrights issue, and NOT to how u introduced urself to the forum, in such a pretentious manner! But hey, no bad feelings here, just a 'lil adjustement! :)
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Hi folks, now I am sure some of you are wondering who the hell I am... I show up sorta non-shalantly and post a few pics etc... Many of you go goo goo gaa gaa over them but the reality is they are just photographs. My name is Christopher McCrary, I currently reside in NYC, NY. I hav been shooting photography since I was 9 years of age that began as a snide remark I made to my father. My father and I were out in north western part of the State of Alaska shooting wildlife, (he was scouting for hunting locations). When he was shooting a photograph of a herd of game, I popped off with the comment of "I could take a better photo with a box camera". He looked at me, and said "alright....prove it." He at that time gave me my first camera, a Hasselblad 500. I still shoot with Medium format, 35mm, and am begining to shoot in digital. Dont really care for it all that much, because there isnt a real record of it, just a bunch of bits and bytes that are too easily lost. I am an old school photographer if you havent gathered this by now. Now lets see.. I want to address something that someone said regarding me using John Lennons photo in one of my photographsartworks, something to the effect of would I be honored or pleased if someone used my imagery to enhance or add a sense of spiritual essence of an image. Well honestly, YES I would be.. I shoot photography not to make money from it, I dont need to. I shoot photography and play with images because I love it...nothing more nothing less. If I make a few dollars off of my skills and talents for capturing and composing imagery that has a sediment of remberance... ya know... thats ok too...but there a lot of my works I dont even offer as a "for sale" images, I offer them freely to friends and family, even as prints. So if you were wondering who I am, and what I am about.. this is just a scratch in the surface or as a photographer would say, just one frame in the roll. Peace.