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Subject: Nudity does not equal art.


Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 6:21 AM

SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK (anyone have oil for the hamsters wheel?)


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Dave-So ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 6:23 AM

Well, the original post wasn't against nudity in the galleries, but nudity used to stimulate looks at an image, for the sake of nudity. Nudity where it does not enhance an image...nudity for teens to gawk at. non-artistic nudity. There is an editorial in 3D World..i think that's where it was, talking about the fantasy images...the warrioresses with the big boobs....it's a good read.....and slams it in a nice way, as being bordering on ridiculous.

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stahlratte ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 6:25 AM

Sigh, why do I have this strange feeling that in a not too distant future a picture like this will have a good chance to be voted into the top 20 ? ;-)

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mon1alpha ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 6:28 AM

'Have a look at Renderosity's "Most Viewed" images, which go back to 1999 ' I'm outraged...not one of my nudes is on the list lololol


kawecki ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 6:51 AM

" Sigh, why do I have this strange feeling that in a not too distant future a picture like this will have a good chance to be voted into the top 20 ? ;-)" Niet, this kind of picture won't be allowed, there is missing a Bible in the hand of the man and a burka in the head of the woman.

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Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 6:58 AM

We can open a thread: "The Most Viewed Images ... Faked or Fiction?" :D


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dirk5027 ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 7:27 AM

this is and always will be a soft porn site, if they changed it the membership would drop by half, where would the young boys and old pervs go to view free T&A


Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 7:29 AM

And if we try a new TOS? "Only nude pics allowed" :D


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JnM92 ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 8:00 AM

"Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/gallery.ez?Sectionid=0&filter_genre_id=0&MostWanted=Yes It seems as though the gallery has become more of a depository for ad-nauseum nudes and graphicaly violent images. What do you mean "has become"? When was it different? Don't tell me that "in the good old days" there was great art there because it's not true. Have a look at Renderosity's "Most Viewed" images, which go back to 1999 (see link). New TOS ...no 40EE With Wyrmmaster as the Merchant of the Month and a Top Seller? Not bloody likely! LOL! " Your right, though its realy sad the most vieuwed image is only most viewed because shes squeezing in her breasts:S....im 12 years old and i only watch the gallery if my mother isnt watching because theres so mutch nudity... but theres realy a difference between artistic nudity and dirty minded sick bastard nudity i think... but then even porn is a way of art, it creates some kind of 'emotions' to. everybody has his own thing right?


kawecki ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 8:15 AM

Future TOS: "Any Mike's image is not allowed to be posted" You know, only a gay likes to see images of a man and this site isn't more a family friendly place, it has tuned into a porn refuge for homosexuals!

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dirk5027 ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 8:21 AM

kawecki, this site is all naked vickies, what site are you looking at? and I thought women liked men, or maybe i'm wrong..go hide-your bigotry is showing


Prikshatk ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 8:21 AM · edited Wed, 04 May 2005 at 8:28 AM

On a practical note, having that nudity switch 'on' as default would make sure no nude images got past the posting stage unflagged.

Then those fetishists who post non nude images can switch it 'off' when they post their perverted clothed images to the gallery.

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Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 8:23 AM

Future TOS: "Any animal's image is not allowed to be posted" You know, only a pervert likes to see images of an animal and this site isn't more a family friendly place, it has tuned into a porn refuge for bestialism lovers! ... When the 3rd most viewed pic in all the Rosity story is a COW, something is rotten in the state of 3D, my dear Horatio :D


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Gongyla ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 8:25 AM

what you can do, blaineak, is to get two logins. One for you in which you can look at tasteful art nudes (and the rest, but as a grownup you can click these away as it're only pixels) and another login for the kids in which you tick "no nudity". Then it's up to you not to keep logged in so that the kids don't see what you see. Your choice, and your responsability. This thread has once again degenerated because there wasn't enough chips and beer. As for nudes being gratuitous, why not? If we forget that cerebral vanity about "art" and "artist" and simply have fun creating our dreams, wishes, nightmares, collective unconscious, etc, we would all be much happier. Hope you're as happy as I am! Gongyla, female non-artist, partly human, partly Nephilim.



Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 8:29 AM

"As for nudes being gratuitous, why not?" hey, where post the people the non-gratuitous nudes? I want to earn money with my boobs !!!!! er ... with the boobs of my Vickies!!!! :D


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DCArt ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 8:38 AM

dirk, I might be wrong, but I think kawecki's comment was tongue in cheek, and not serious .. he may be saying that in a sarcastic tone (just like Casette was with the animal art). The definitions of what is acceptable and not acceptable are left to the mods at Renderosity. There is an awful lot of content in the galleries that I wouldn't allow children to see. It doesn't fit my own definition of "family friendly" and I'm willing to bet that other responsible parents feel the same way. I have posted nude art on many occasions here (they have long since been removed with the rest of my previous gallery images). That makes it clear that I'm not against nudity. But a lot of gallery posts do get into the realm of "distasteful." It is not my choice or decision to allow it or not. I'll leave that up to the PTB here. 8-)



kawecki ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 9:01 AM

"and I thought women liked men," Woman shall not have those perverted thoughts!

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pookah69 ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 9:08 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=930681

...does not exhibit female breasts. Nor does it exhibit violence and gore. What it does exhibit is just the slightest bit of a male figure's generously proportioned...er--"thingy", the portion that could not be contained under a demure green velvet loincloth. I am amazed--and oddly heartened--by the fact that viewers were drawn to this image in droves. Perhaps Gypsy Rose Lee said it best: "Leave the best parts to the imagination."


kawecki ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 9:10 AM

I am arriving to the conclusion that Al Koran is right, any kind of human's representation in images cannot be done. Allah akbar!

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Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 9:25 AM

And nude lanscapes? INQUISITION !!!!!!!!


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Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 9:48 AM

haaahahahahahaa, I remember the scene :D


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Prikshatk ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 9:50 AM

I never expected the inquisition!

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kawecki ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 9:59 AM

Nothing better than a good Auto de Fe.

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-Amalthea- ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 10:09 AM

I think we're straying here. I'll try to go back to the topic at hand. While art is a totally vague term and could take any shape or form, not every gallery is the same. For example, every modern art gallery has themes and rules, and you might not find, say, adult oriented art in a gallery for children. Just like you won't find any abstract art in a gallery of Flemish Primitives. Simply, they're the Terms of Service used to make sure the customers get to see what they expect. Now of course, many would claim that art banned from certain galleries is still art. Some even think that a picture of human roadkill can be artistic (it does take some level of detachment though). To sum it up, art is what you create - and rightly so, if you look at the origins of the word itself. It basically means "craft" or "creation". The topic of this conversation was originally the abuse of a certain type of art. There were no mentions of TOS or the such, so I do not see the need to bring up burkas or bibles except for humour (but since that has already been done several times in past threads, it is getting old). I have to agree that nudity and violence are much more popular than many other topics, but we should keep in mind that this is a public gallery. All a person has to do is create a login and upload their favourite Big Breasted Vicki. As long as they remain within the TOS, all is well. Renderosity is certainly not an elite artists' repository - and even such an elite gallery would eventually spawn some internal strife (again because of different interpretations of the word 'art'). So I am afraid all we can do is live with it, and occasionally bitch about it because it feels good. :) Cheers, Antonio (a.k.a. Amalthea)


LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 10:14 AM

Well there's only one Nude in my gallery and it doesn't even show nipples! Go see and tell me if you can guess which one it is!


DrunkMonkey ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 10:17 AM

"It has been said that any work that creates emotion is art." Ah, where's Dr. Legume when you really need him?


Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 10:22 AM

I think that this ridiculous thread opens with the ridiculous idea "nude is bad", "ad-nauseum nudes" and blahblahblah. For me, to open a thread such this, or you are a pure newbie, or you want your 5-minutes-of-fame with a thread that probably a mod close in few posts, because THIS IS ANOTHER F***** HAMSTER ON A WHEEL ... and really I cant write on a thread such this but in a sarcastic tone... ... so come on, kawecki, lets go to burn some witches, faeries drawers and nude disgusters :D


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SamTherapy ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 10:24 AM

"... so come on, kawecki, lets go to burn some witches, faeries drawers and nude disgusters" A faerie with burned drawers? That could be rather amusing. :D

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kawecki ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 10:37 AM

I prefer grilled sirens they are delicious!

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Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 10:38 AM

WELCOME TO BURNEDROSITY :D


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shedofjoy ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 10:41 AM

Art is in the eye of the beholder, but should also have limits, there is nothing wrong with nudity,(except where children are concerned) after all where will it end? Clothing animals???? Reminds me of my vegetarian sister (who is 30) who thinks lions killing to eat in the wild is wrong... (someone should teach these people about life and why we are here)....lol... lastly It's not what it looks like it's what it is doing that can be offensive...

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Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 10:47 AM

"there is nothing wrong with nudity,(except where children are concerned)" O_o "Art is in the eye of the beholder" Spanish painter Sorolla paint hundred of nude kids. Never nobody told him a pervert. If we start to analyze all the History Of Art, who is sick? The ancient painters ... ? ... or todays politics?


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Byrdie ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 10:51 AM

That's it. Nothing but pink ponies from now on. ;-) Or maybe purple emus -- anybody know where I can find a Poser emu?


Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 10:58 AM

This is as the free Aiko 3. She have no nipples. Is a good idea !!!! CUT THE NIPPLES CUT THE BREAST CUT THE BUTTOCKS CUT THE ... ... ... "WELCOME TO RENDEROSITY ONLY POSER MANNEQUIN RENDERS ALLOWED"


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JenX ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 10:59 AM

Attached Link: My most viewed-most commented image

Just a reminder to remember to keep it cool in here ;). All art is subjective. I'm reminded of repeated stories of Art Gallery janitors being fired for "accidentally" removing art displays that...well, look like nothing but what the average person views as garbage. And, to follow the thread...I've added a link to my most viewed/most commented piece. No nudity, nothing sexual. It was quite a sad piece, though. Also, if you wish, you have the option in your profile to not view nudity in the gallery. MorriganShadow Poser Mod.

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Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 11:14 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=529716

Well, my most viewed image ... ... ISNT A NUDE !!!!! (but almost, hehehehe)


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kawecki ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 11:20 AM

Is always the same, some person that has some problem with nudity want to his point of view or problem must be extended to other people that don't have problem with nudity. Renderosity is an art site, nudity has always existed in art from the begining of "homo sapiens". The art imagens in the gallery can be good, can be bad depending on the artist. In general is an amateur gallery, so don't expect to see master of masters here. Some artists are good, other are excellent, other are bad, some are talented other lack of any talent, ones are beginners other are experienced. Today I can be surrounded by muses and create a master piece, tomorrow I can have a total lack of inspiration and my image can be a mess. Anyway all those artists do the best that are able to do at the moment. I think that is a lack of respect to the artist to blame him that his work contains nudity and that this kind of images are wrong for "family friendly" site. I have no problems with nudity, but I don't go to a church and try to impose that they must be nude in the church. I have respect of what they are doing in their church and expect that they have respect what I am doing in an art gallery! Renderosity is a big site with great amount of members, the question is how representative of the membership are people that have problem with nudity? If you look at the facts you will see: 1) The most popular image in the galleries is a nude Vicky. What does it mean?, it means that most of the artists has no problem of making nude pictures. 2) For the same artist an image with nudity gets much more hits than an image without nudity. What does it mean?, it means that members who view the pictures prefer more images with nudity than without. Conclusion, the majority and silent one has no problems with nudity and enjoy , and only a screaming minority has problems trying to impose their will to the majority. Don't forget that Renderosity gave to the minority the option of nudity flag, so also the minority's point of view was taken into consideration! I belong to the majority, but I am not a silent one and I am able to scream too and very loud! End of testament.

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Prikshatk ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 11:24 AM

Hallelujah Brother!

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Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 11:27 AM

AAAAMEN!!!!


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Gongyla ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 11:36 AM

AAAAWOMEN!!!!! you mean.



Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 11:43 AM

WHOAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAA :D


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kawecki ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 11:43 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=324981

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Well..., my most viewed image and its thumb.

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Casette ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 11:56 AM

KAWECKI, YOURE A PURRRRR-VERT!!!!!!!


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Byrdie ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 12:05 PM

Just tried to post and got a server error. Guess all those nekkid Vickys musta broke it. :-(


wolf359 ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 12:26 PM

Im a 41 year old unrepentant hetero male who is partial to large breasts.....no apologies ;-) i have more of a problem with horribly lit and poorly composed scenes with no ground shadows and figure that are floating off the floor. default , morphless V3's with vacuous stares wearing the ubiquitous "Koz messy hair" and a canned pose with not even the hint of an attempt change the poses. Posting a female nude with "realistic" small sagging breasts is Not an accomplishment unto itself if you dont take the time to light and compose your scene. for me the lighting/composition is everything breast size NOT with standing.



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JVRenderer ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 1:09 PM

Well, my most viewed and commented pic doesn't have nudity in it either, go figure. Not Nekkid

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maxxxmodelz ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 1:15 PM

"for me the lighting/composition is everything breast size NOT with standing." Well said, Wolf.


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DCArt ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 1:44 PM · edited Wed, 04 May 2005 at 1:46 PM

JVR ... holey moley! That is one fantastic likeness! And after scrolling through the comments, I see I made pretty much the same comment on 3/18/2004. ROFL

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Gongyla ( ) posted Wed, 04 May 2005 at 1:58 PM

nudity isn't needed to cause a trumoil it seems: quote: " Cheerleaders told to cover up and stop being so sexy. Their wiggling bottoms, gyrating hips and seductive use of pom-poms may be part of the Americas sporting landscape, but in Texas, school cheerleaders are about to be forced to tone down their act. Legislators in the state, famed for the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, have voted to crack down on sexually suggestive performances in schools. The law is designed to ban raunchy dance routines by cheerleaders following complaints about suggestive moves, short skirts and exposed midriffs. Some of them are just downright vulgar, something you would see at an adult club or something, said Joe Deshotel, a Democratic member of the Texas House of Representatives. The problem is in the eye of the beholder, I guess. One of the co-authors of the bill, Republican Corbin Van Arsdale, said many parents want restrictions because they go to Friday night games to see young men clashing on the football field, not girls shaking their behinds on the sidelines. Youve got children seeing things that their parents would rather them not see, said Mr Van Arsdale. The bill would allow the Texas Education Agency to police routines deemed vulgar or excessive, and would force schools to take action to stop them. There is a lack of old fashioned morality, the morality you and I grew up with, said state Representative Carl Isett. If I take my five-year-old son to a high school football game, I dont want to cover his eyes when the cheerleaders are on the field." " end quote



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