"It was an image posted in early 2000 when I posted my first Poser 3 renders. I do not know when it was pulled as I recieved no notification. I simply found it missing when checking on my Homepage for the first time recently." That was not a TOS issue. I had that happen to me and the images lost were not nudes. They didn't even have people in them.

"Well...., maybe can be good for whom goes on Friday night games to see young men clashing on the football field and not girls shaking their behinds on the sidelines." You mean all those "straight" men who watch football to see big butch men hug and touch each others bottoms, I guess they are buisy getting beers at the consesion when the girls come out... yet I suppose just knowing those girl are there debasing themselves reasures one of ones masculinty.

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/animation.ez?Topsectionid=0&Form.SortOrder=UserName&Start=234&WhatsNew=Y

I don't usually visit the gallery but I just tried something. I opened the gallery without any modifiers and with it sorted based on "what's new." My browser is set to display 18 thumbnails. This is what I found:

3 CG Landscapes
3 photos (including 1 that could be called at least 'semi-erotic' by DHolman who's gallery is pretty cool!)
2 CG air/spacecraft renders
2 CG Still lifes
2 Fractals (beautiful!)
4 CG characters either fully clothed or showing just their head & shoulders
1 mixed media that was rather abstract with flying storks carrying pigs

and only 1 (that's one- uno - ichi) NVIATWAS.

I'm tempted to think I must have gone to a different site or something but I double-checked the link I clicked and it was the Renderosity gallery.

Am I having a bad day?

Of course, I didn't visit just the "Poser" gallery. I visited the Renderosity "Art Gallery." Maybe I have to actively search for and select the Poser gallery to find all this nudity that everyone speaks of.

All kidding aside, I know it's there, but if one opens up one's eyes just a little bit one can see that Renderosity is so much more than NVIATWAS.

All problems can be solved if the girls shaking their behinds on the sidelines are replaced by sailors.

Dude!

Someone, somewhere in this melange pointed out the solution. If you are upset with the number of boring, banal nudes, then give the artists suggestions for improving their images. Be nice (duh), point out something you do like in the image ('nice nipples, very realistic'), and then suggest that perhaps some scenery, more context, yada, yada, whatever your particular thing is might help. Some people will genuinely thank you and take what you've said to heart. Others will hate you (critics have never been beloved by artists), but you've done your part and at least you can say you tried to raise the Renderosity aesthetic. Of course, you should also be willing to point out as an example, some of your works which you feel exemplify what you're asking for. If you haven't done a "tasteful," "elegant," yada yada nude then perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to critique those who try their best. This is potluck here, not a gourmet eatery. You get haute cuisine and you get Hamburger Helper in about the same proportions as they exist in the real world. You want haute, you either sift through the ground chuck or go to 3DCG whatever and suffer the real elitists who will ridicule you for not building and rigging your own models in Lightwave or Maya. As for the cheerleaders, the problem is likely that those guys feel guilty for getting turned on by girls the same age as their daughters--can't have the old incest fantasies getting stirred up. No doubt their middle-aged, wives are not too happy about the gleam they see in papa's eye when the nubiles take the field either. It's much easier to ban something than own up to their own hypocrisy. That's my story and I'm sticking to it :-)

Girls noo, Sailors yesss!

What is this, the Royal Navy? Next you'll be calling for rum, sodomy and the lash :-)

Yes, lmckenzie... good idea. Post 157 that is...

I both agree and disagree. Nudity without being marked is WRONG, Violence should be marked, but can be a hard one to do, an image anticipating violence for instance may offend someone, but others do not see it as violence as there is no actual violence occuring in the image. if you look through my gallery, I have CRAPLOADS of "just-nude-vickie" images, but 1, they are all marked, 2 the reason they are so simple is because they are material and shader node tests. why do I upload these? people are interested, and most of the time, a quick IM will get you the material from me. saying that violent based art should not be here, or is not artistic is so very historicly incorrect, look at classic art, such as those from wars, or even biblical images, violence, blood and gore everywhere. so I disagree with you here. all those poeple that come to these discussions only to say something along the lines of :Here we go again, or like I havent heard that before, and other smart ass comments need to just simply leave it out. there are new people joining everyday, and they will have never seen these discussions before (although not new, as with the HOT 20, this is my first sighting of a nudity and/or violence thread) and the only outcome of such comments are that you look like 1:an idiot, and 2:a bitch (sorry for the language) oh, and while Im giving another spill, people who put, "get out the popcorn" (especially moderators, BAD!) should stop it, it's like saying "I dont take you or your opinion seriously, I just think its entertaining" there you go LOL

Actually, they should just package certain threads and put them in the FAQ. 1. Too many tasteless/pornographic nudes. 2. Is Poser really art? 3. Are faeries really just kiddy porn. 4. Daz/CL are rotten buggers because__________. 5. The latest Renderosity banning binge. 6. The Hot 20 sucks. 7. My images are getting buried/I'm not getting any hits. 8. Only nudes get hits (see #1.) 9. Why is there no "art" in the galleries? 10. Top 10 lists of endlessly recurring threads. I must be missing some but those should fit nicely on their own server.

Hey, who made this thread so damn wide! We don't all have dual monitors... I used to make nude renders cause my machine was so crappy I could run a figure and conforming clothes in the same scene! I do wonder why eaters of popcorn have to share their taste in snack food with us... boycotting the thread to go make a sandwhich would be more pleasent for everyone involved.

yea..I'm eating con chips and salsa right now.

Nudity can be artistic if done well. I'm not a prude or a raving conservative. What do I hate seeing is giant breasted figures without even an attempt at artistry. I've got one or two "nudes" in my gallery (only one visible nipple in the whole series), but they are tastefully done (IMHO). Poser has the reputation in the 3D world as a toy for pre-pubesent boys - not a serious graphic artist's tool. Myself, I'm constanly amazed at the quality that this program can achieve, especially in the hands of a talented artist. No, big breasts does not directly equate to art - unless handled in an artistic manner. Yes, you can have big breasts in an image that is artistic. That's where the "art" comes into play. I'm not for banning anything. I just think each of us should consider - before posting an image - if the piece has artistic value. Renderosity is, by it's own definition - and "Art Community"