Yes!

That's an excellent idea, Anthony! Why is it that they haven't hired you yet? ;) ETA: Cinema 4D (and other apps, I'm sure) regularly integrate third-party plugins/apps in order to gain the features of them!

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Yes please!

yes please :)

"If it can be done in LW, C4D, Vue, Bryce (!), and a myriad other 3D applications then the argumentation about memory usage is moot - give it up already." all of which use binary files for storage. poser doesn't. Changes things dramatically -- and makes it not moot.

What do we say? (grabs pitchfork and burning torch, joins mob headed for castle CL) NO... to single (often broken) undo! YES... to a working multiple undo. When do we want it? NOW!........please. Hi Dr Geep. Will this thread be the first in a series to get all of our issues with Poser sorted out. Good luck (to us all), from Jovial.

YES!

If the user UNDO'es a dial setting which affects an IK-loop, all angles in that IK-chain should be restored as they were. And, GET THE IK-LOOP JOINT ANGLE TRIGONOMETRY THOROUGHLY GONE OVER AND CHECKED!!!!

Yes, please

Yes please!

YES.... and if possible can i have a Multiple undo for my life... thanx

Yes, and there is no reason why this should take much memory. Each and every action in Poser could be stored as at most three values: What was done, what it was done to, how much of it was done ie: Insert Figure From Library; Figure number in the scene or Change dial setting; Paramater changed (already accessable in Python with a unique code, so they do store them); Change Made or Change Background color; From; To Even the magnets wouldn't take much doing - Function: Add magnet; Target: Whatever was selected; How Much: Default Magnet. I'd suspect that the reason we don't have this yet in Poser is that there are several different control loops involved, so Poser does it's current undos by storing two copies of the scene in memory, using undo and redo to swap between them.

YES

ynsaen, that was naive.

Undos, except for programs that expect extremely large files (Photoshop and Premiere Pro), are all done in memory. It is moot. Doesn't matter if it's binary or text (text is just ASCII/Unicode binary!).

And the notion that Poser must store an entire scene for every dial change is absolutely ridiculous. Throwing the house out with the baby in the bathwater...

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One other reason PhotoShop needs large amounts of memory to store undos is that not every PhotoShop action can be worked backwards - some of the blur codes for instance may only work in one direction.

Yes!

Yes! I'm old, make lots of mistakes, need it badly...

Yes duh

Yep, I'm for it. 'It depends on what is being undone. Deleting a character needs that a LOT of information must be remembered for the delete to be undone' Just like to point out that Daz Studio is another program which already has multiple undos, including character delete, (and with a 'history' panel coming soon for even more control). I have no idea why CL can't implement it. mac

Yes. Ten years ago, this would have been excusable. These days it's assumed that an application has multiple undo's.

these days it also should be able to be assumed that an application gets its solid trigonometry correct INCLUDING when IK-chains are switched on and off.

Deleting a character from a scene might not need too much storage - really just the equivilent of a pose. What might be causing problems are the third party plugins - the face room, cloth room and hair room. These probably don't share too many of their internal workings with the main Poser code, and might need very detailed reworkings to add multiple undoes.

Add me, too!

want it too :) greets Chris

It would be useful if I could change an .OBJ geometry file during a Poser run and then tell Poser to read the character or prop again from the .OBJ file.

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Yes! By all means!

Sure

A must

Me, too, please. Is there anyway to utilize the memorize (character, camera, light) functions already there?

Yes

A BIG yes pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! ...can't happen soon enough for me!!

yes please

YES PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!