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Photography F.A.Q (Last Updated: 2025 Feb 03 6:38 am)
Subject: In Cam Color Matrix
Adobe RGB..... I only convert to sRGB if I'm going to upload to the web or send it out for printing to a lab that requires images be in sRGB.
I am, therefore I create.......
--- michelleamarante.com
Mine outputs in sRGB so no choice unless I use a third party RAW processor like RSE2005. If I had a choice I would use sRGB as I often shoot in JPEG and I don't have a colour managed system from start to print capable of working in Abode RGB, so I would risk producing colours outside the colour gamut of the printer if I didn't.
And every one said, 'If we only live,
We too will go to sea in a Sieve,---
To the hills of the Chankly Bore!'
Far and few, far and few, Are the lands where the Jumblies
live;
Their heads are green, and their hands are blue, And they went to
sea in a Sieve.
Edward Lear
http://www.nonsenselit.org/Lear/ns/jumblies.html
Would you believe I just got 7 ebots from your one reply to this thread Onslow...... talk about a system hiccup......
I am, therefore I create.......
--- michelleamarante.com
Sorry Michelle - I just deleted 6 (duplicate)messages - I hardly dare to reply :(
And every one said, 'If we only live,
We too will go to sea in a Sieve,---
To the hills of the Chankly Bore!'
Far and few, far and few, Are the lands where the Jumblies
live;
Their heads are green, and their hands are blue, And they went to
sea in a Sieve.
Edward Lear
http://www.nonsenselit.org/Lear/ns/jumblies.html
Attached Link: http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/color_spaces.htm
tibet2004uk See link, plenty more info do a Google for "Colour space" I use Adobe shot in RAW. I then convert all Adobe RGB images into sRGB into a separate directory as Jpeg ie Folder: todays_photos (contains RAW) Subfolder: todays_photos_psd (contains processed Adobe RGB) Subfolder todays_photos_jpeg (contains sRGB jpeg's) Subfolder: todays_photos_web (contains_websize sRGB jpeg) OK I am over through! That way I have Adobe files that I can use to print, and sRGB files at hand to use. All I need to do is concert to tiff as required.
Simplest way to think of colorspaces (also called gamut) is to think of a huge box of crayons. Each colorspace represents a different box that contains a specified number of crayons/colors than the others. sRGB's box is a lot smaller with fewer colors than the AdobeRGB box. sRGB contains the colors that are approximately what the average monitor can display.
Now I wonder why I couldnt explain it that easily! Sometimes it is better to go back to basics when explaining complex things I guess. I use similar analogies when explaining files and folders and use a plain old filing cabinet with its file folders and drawers as an example. Very well put Donald.
It would depend on who was printing and on what. I have a 'run of the mill' monitor from one of the pc retail giants, and I print with a lab. who work in sRGB with Fuji Frontier printers which work very well with that colour space. If you have a high quality monitor and printer producing the finest results on a colour managed system, or are producing for commercial purposes embedding the profile to ensure the studio or agency sees it exactly how you intended, fine. Otherwise you could be making things at best difficult, possibly worse, by working in Abode RGB. If you are producing your images on a standard monitor which does not calibrate as the better ones do and/or are printing with a photo lab and/or are producing mainly to show on the web. Just my opinion for the experts to shoot down :)
And every one said, 'If we only live,
We too will go to sea in a Sieve,---
To the hills of the Chankly Bore!'
Far and few, far and few, Are the lands where the Jumblies
live;
Their heads are green, and their hands are blue, And they went to
sea in a Sieve.
Edward Lear
http://www.nonsenselit.org/Lear/ns/jumblies.html
Erm ... so this is an option on some cameras, the ability to chose between Adobe RGB and sRGB? As far as I can tell my Olympus C770 only does sRGB unless there's some key feature here that I don't know about in which case it sounds as though I should be shooting in Adobe in case I want to print and convert to sRGB for web? Have I finally understood all this? Ohh and what is RAW? Soooo much to learn and all this technical jargon!!!!
Noeline :D
~Predictably Unpredictable~
Not saying that at all Pascale - Im saying it is a choice depending on your equipment, end product and intended use. It has to be made in an informed way which is the best system for you to be working with, they both have their own advantages and disadvantages which you should be aware of before making the decision.
And every one said, 'If we only live,
We too will go to sea in a Sieve,---
To the hills of the Chankly Bore!'
Far and few, far and few, Are the lands where the Jumblies
live;
Their heads are green, and their hands are blue, And they went to
sea in a Sieve.
Edward Lear
http://www.nonsenselit.org/Lear/ns/jumblies.html
Pascale - Mode - Assign Profile in PS and change your colour settings to make sure PS is using colour management and displaying in the embedded profile or displaying in Abode RGB.
Be aware though you must convert to sRGB and proof your image before: displaying it on the web or sending it to friends/family or sending it to printers working in sRGB or sending to anyone else who may not be working in a colour managed environment to see how it will look.
Message edited on: 06/20/2005 05:54
And every one said, 'If we only live,
We too will go to sea in a Sieve,---
To the hills of the Chankly Bore!'
Far and few, far and few, Are the lands where the Jumblies
live;
Their heads are green, and their hands are blue, And they went to
sea in a Sieve.
Edward Lear
http://www.nonsenselit.org/Lear/ns/jumblies.html
Attached Link: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos20d/
Ooooh! I'm no expert dear!!! But...I know that my next cam will probably be a Canon 20D! I'm also considering a Nikon 70D. These are DSLR which is what I want! Wonderful cams! I guess it depends what u want to do really! Here's the links to the reviews of both cams!
Attached Link: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond70/
And the Nikon 70D review! I'm looking for a link where both cams where compared but I just can't find it!! Still looking! To be continued! ;)
Rich, sorry, but I just don't get any of this! O_o "Be aware though you must convert to sRGB and proof your image before..". My cam shoots in sRGB as I said earlier and what does "proof" mean? I think I'm just gonna leave it for now! But thx for ur help anyway Rich! :) Noeline, I know what u mean, I'm only dreaming of it too for now! Have to save first and these cam aren't cheap either so it will take a 'lil while before I can afford it! But hey...my 'lil Sony is pretty cool and I love that cam so it's ok, I'm not longing too hard! ;)
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Which one do YOU use? Adobe RGB or sRGB? Just curious :)