"WW 1.29 in Poser 5 , Python window loses focus after every action, time varies between 10 secs and up to a few minutes after which I usually give up. This renders WW totally useless in P5. WW 1.29 in Poser 6 , never loses focus but even the simplest change in a figure requires a lot of adjusting afterwards, looks like I paid $39 to keep doing what I already did." I'm having nearly this exact same trouble too with Poser 5 (current patches) for Windows. I've read the tutorials (including the Apollo one) and still can't get it to work on any of my V3 to morphed V3 or S3 to V3 or V3 to S3 or S3 to morphed S3. The version I have is 1.29 of WW and the Python issues the user above described are nearly the same as mine. Poser 5 was just installed about a month ago and I have no trouble with OTHER python scripts. I'm converting from a figure to a figure a skirt and I've tried "skirt", "tight skirt" and the body with no head setting to no avail. I get pokethrough just the same, even using inflate, smooth, etc. In fact, after about two adjustments (when it works) it seems to not adjust anymore at all. Just sort of freezes and won't allow any more adjustments to the clothing. Maybe PhilC can tell me and some others what's going on because so far I can't get anything to work either converting clothing from a non morphed V3 to a custom morphed V3 or to any other figure from a differnt figure. This is VERY frustrating to say the least for an expensive program. I hope it's a simple fix. NOTE: I've heard several say they can't get it to work in Poser 5, but Poser 6 works just fine and doesn't have many of these issues. Wating to hear back, thanks.

Attached Link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WardrobeWizard/messages/2617?threaded=1

"Wating to hear back, thanks." Out of curiosity - have you also posted in the Wardrobe Wizard Yahoo groups message board? It's the best place for a fast response to a WW problem. Phil might check this forum a couple times a day, but he lurks there pretty much constantly that I've seen. At least when he's at his computer and not sleeping and such. (pretty late on the east coast right now, and I think I've read that's where he lives) Just curious why you're posting here instead of where it'll get faster response. Either way, I'm sure he'll respond quickly once he sees it - he's like that.

I agree, the Yahoo group is the place to be if you have WW and need help. The questions go right to people's email, so the response time is way, way better. I have Poser 5 and I use WW and don't have a problem getting it to work. What do you mean by "loses focus"?

I didn't say "looses focus", that was the other user I was quoting which I said my problems were like. The reason I didn't post to the yahoo groups is I didn't know there was one until now. I keep busy and thus usually only check a few sites. That's why I usually post here so I have one place to check my messages and keep track of some past posts too. The "looses focus" I assume the user was referring to the WW script window can become grayed out like an inactive window, even though it still is and appears to freeze-up for 10-20 seconds between clicking one of the menu items (doesn't matter what). I've tried using the realism python script from another author and it works just fine with none of these issues. The main issue though is that nothing seems to work like I stated no matter what I try. Converting from a standered V3 to a custom morph V3, S3 to V3, etc. Basically, everything I said in my first post.

The link to the Yahoo Group is on the product page at the PhilC site. I'm sorry if this seems irrelevant, but what version did you download and install? If you just got it, and got the ....Full_03.zip, then you have the very latest version, and all the updates are included. Otherwise you may either be missing some of the updates (there were 3 or 4 at least - Phil & Kamilche were VERY busy fixing all reported problems the first several weeks). There were a couple reported issues with the sequence in which the updates were installed, or bits and scraps of the demo version lingering to mugger things up, but basically at this point if you have any earlier version it's simpler if you send an Email with your order info (order number, date, & all that lot) to PhilC with a request and he'll set up a download for you to get the latest full download. Once you get the new download, make sure you have a copy saved off of your serial number file, and then delete the old installation entirely (the PhilC folder under Runtime/Python/poserScript). This makes sure no bits or scraps of the demo version or old updates remain to muck things up. Then install the new copy fresh, place the serial file again, and you're good to go. Of course if you just bought it in the last couple days and got the _03 version, then none of this is relevant, unless you installed over a demo version. In any event, hope this was some help, and not too confusing . . .

Ahhh, ok, I know what you mean now by "loses focus". It's not "losing focus" per se. The script is still running. I get that same type of thing with other things I do but I don't have a great deal of memory on my computer either so if a lot of memory is being used, things slow down and take time to appear. I don't know what other scripts are you are referring to, and while I don't know anything about scripting, but I suspect that because WW goes through an analysis process including the item's morphs, that it takes a lot of memory to do that. The script still runs even though you can't see the text scrolling by. Once the analysis is done, the done window appears. I wouldn't worry about it.

Posted this to where you asked in another thread, posting again here. I try to monitor all the forums where Wardrobe Wizard is being discussed. Plus I answer email directly.

The focus of the Python window in Poser 5 is is a known issue for all scripts, not just Wardrobe Wizard. When it looses focus (gray text on buttons), I start by clicking the window title bar, then the Wardrobe Wizard "Back" button if its available. Finally if that does not do it I close and reopen the Python scrip window. Yes something of a pain in the neck. I just glad that CL fixed it in Poser 6.

The V3 that the Wardrobe Wizard works with has the OBJ file blMilWom_v3.obj Stephanie has the OBJ file blStephanie.obj If for any reason your figure is using a different OBJ then it will not work. (V1/2 low res etc are supported, here I'm just talking about V3).

It is very possible that you will need to click the smooth and inflate buttons a number of times. Particularly when going from an adult to a child. We felt that this system was going to be easier for users than get then to select areas and use something like magnets.

To be honest I do not know what Marque was doing wrong initially. Maybe she could explain in her own words. I'm very happy to work with anyone that is having difficulty but I'll need more info than just "It wont work for me"

Thanks,

All the figures were compiled with genitals turned off where possible.

I honestly dont understand why people dont email or contact the merchant directly and give them a chance to clarify/rectify a problem before posting what amounts to a negative review of a product, which can hurt sales, reputation and morale...it's like calling the cops on your neighbour because their music is too loud, before you give them the chance to turn it down...makes for bad feelings... "I keep busy and thus usually only check a few sites. That's why I usually post here so I have one place to check my messages and keep track of some past posts too." I'm not trying to be rude, but it is VERY unfair to the merchant to do this, even if it is easier for YOU to only have to check one place...the merchant is expected to keep up with posts all over the place?? like PhilC is not busy or anything, dealing with probably dozens and dozens of tasks at any given time...this could be VERY frustrating for him too :(

Let me just add that sometimes if you're inflating or smoothing a lot then you may experience that moment of unresponsiveness. Just go to your menu and Re-initialize python. I usually turn off the python window, re-initialize and then open the python window again and I can continue. But I'd say this happens very rarely now and I use smooth and inflate a lot! Just out of curiousity, what clothing items were you trying to fit from V3 to morphed V3?

Thanks for confirming this is a P5 problem, Phil. It seems to me that it may go a bit deeper than just the Python -- has anyone else seen any glitches associated with "Save As", particularly when saving the results of renders?

blonderella: Only speaking for myself, I think my above posts were obviously stated in that I too am busy and that's why I post only on a few sites, mainly this one. That way all my notes and responses stay in one easy to find place. Also, at no time did I say I wasn't happy with PhilC or his program. You are implying that just because people post here something is wrong with that. In my case, that's certainly NOT true, as it's simply a matter of time and convience. I'm happy with the support PhilC gives and know he's working hard to answer questions and fix problems when he knows what to fix. Certainly in no way negative here. PhilC: I'll try what you said and get back with you. Thanks for the help and reply, still trying to figure this out too and I'm sure we can both get this to working. Also, I know what you mean about the python script window and it still works like you said, so just one of those little annoying issues with Poser 5 I guess. So, we can check that issue off the list. Others: For those that have asked: I have 2GB of Corsair XMS Pro memory so I know it's not a memory issue. Most likely just a Poser 5 issue like PhilC said. You can work around that, just a little annoying but nothing major to worry about. Thanks for the tips though.

PhilC: I'm attaching to this message a copy of my render after trying just about everything with WW to get it to fit. As you can tell, the chest has major poke through. Also, the more I use the inflate/deflate or auto adjust the cloth becomes bigger comparing the right side of the body strap to the left side of the body strap for the skirt. I've tried all combinations to make it fit and can't find a solution no matter what is used or the number of inflate/deflate/auto adjust clicked (at least 4-5 times for left collar and right collar). The same holds true for most other outfits too. Anytime I'm using a custom morphed figure I get this. I double checked to make sure the skin texture I was using was the default skin texture for V3 or S3 and they were. Also, I checked the WW Analysis folder and it indeed copied the skirt (which took about 10 minutes to do). So, the skirt was copied just fine on a stock V3 figure and looked perfect. But the trouble comes when trying to get WW to conform the skirt to a morphed V3 or S3 figure. I always get the type of image you see here no matter what I try in WW. Yes, I've tried many different clicks of the inflate, deflate, auto adjust, smooth, etc. but nothing seems to work. Any thoughts on why this is happening? I just can't get any clothing to convert if it's a morphed figure and not stock. That was the main reason I got it and I'm sure someone will find a solution. Thanks for the help.

3DNeo, can you send me that morph pose and I'll run it through here. I have the DAZ V3 morph package so I should be able to recreate it. To be clear, send the pose with the morph option selected. Do not send me the PZ3 or CR2 file.

Thanks.

PhilC: I can, but you will need to have NGM. The morphs for the breasts are NGM natural gravity morphs. What I'm wanting to do is convert from standard V3, which it copied just fine, then apply the dress on my custom V3 with the NGM natural breast morphs. If you can let me know if you have NGM and such I'll try to send it. Also, you will need the international beauities morph package from DAZ. Thanks.

What OBJ file does your custom V3 use. Open the CR2 file in Wordpad. Sometimes Poser will rewrite an OBJ file to the figure directory without you realising it.

A ha! I think we may have found the problem or at least perhaps one of the causes. I didn't even think of it until you told me to check, but ALL of my figures are based on a modified V3 CR2 file called "MAGIC PERFECT G! Morph Target Set for DAZ Victoria 3 and DAZ Stephanie 3 petite". I don't know how much I am allowed to talk about it here, but you can find the package over at renderotica.com site. Basically, you go through the steps to modify a base V3 figure for use with their morphs. Hence the "blMilWom_v3_PGnew.obj" filename being used. If your WW only detects hard coded .obj files and is looking for the base V3 .obj file, this could be the reason. NOTE: I DID USE the base V3 .obj file to convert the dress from the V3 figure. It took about 10 minutes to complete and is in the WW analysis directory OK. It just isn't converting TO the figure correctly. This may be why since it has a different .obj filename. Now, the question is, what's the best way to get this to work? If I just save the morphs in a pose file it will still have the Magic Perfect G morphs so that won't help. I need to save the morphs so I can use it on a base V3 "blMilWom_v3.obj" file correct? So, I need to retain the face and body morphs but eliminate the morphs needed for MPG so we don't have to use the "blMilWom_v3_PGnew.obj" file. That's if I understand what's maybe happening correclty. If not, I'm sorry, but I thought this may make some sense. Let me know your thoughts, thanks for the help. ----------------------- Here's the CR2 start: { version { number 5 } figureResFile :Runtime:Geometries:DAZPeople:blMilWom_v3_PGnew.obj actor BODY:1

Yep you got it :)

To some extent I to am learning about this program also, though possibly from a different perspective. When someone posts an "aggh my program is not working" message my goal is to instantly perceive exactly what the problem is and give a succinct, clear and correct answer. Now that is to some degree tongue in cheek but I hope you get the idea. One starts with the most obvious then goes on to the probably and finally the possible. I'm not going to hit it right first time every time, but as I say I'm learning.

So to answer the question .... if you can use Morph Manager to put the required morphs into a standard V3 then you are good to go. Convert to the V3 with those morphs, save the converted clothing and use that clothing with your custom V3.

I wonder if ya could BS yr way through by renamin' yr modified obj to the default name? (After backin' up the original, of course)