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Mazak

Message edited on: 09/14/2005 10:13

I wouldn`t say it is OT. It can render poser stuff.

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Good... At least now when we Poser users will trash that prog, they will not have the excuse that their favourite piece of software is still in "Beta Stage" ;) LOL Just joking naturally! :D

It also looks as though they've released a plug-in which provides something similar to magnets. But you have to pay for that. Studio itself is still a free download.

There's a coupon code in the newsletter, and in the announcement in the forums. You can get the magnet plugin free with the code.

The IK plugin is also free, at least temporarily.

Yep, both the PowerPose (IK) and DFormer (magnets) plug-ins are free at the moment. PP is an IK system similar to poser's but a lot more 'intuitive', and far better for posing figures with. You can easily lock/unlock and body parts, and even choose whether to bend joints from the center/end points, etc. DFormer is a magnet system, but again, it has a lot more to it than poser's magnets. And it doesn't have that giant-sized magnet icon. LOL. It's more vertice based and incredibly powerful. mac

Hm, Poser could use an improved IK system. Anyway, it's great to have this in D|S.

No sign of a newslatter here. PowerPose popped up in my downloads, but not Dformer, There's been a couple of other times that Daz seem to have been a bit disorganised over new items, recently.

The announcement in the D|S forum over at DAZ has the code, if you don't want to wait for the newsletter. You have to put the plugin in your cart, then put in the coupon code at checkout.

NO real Character animation tools will be in the base though
such as a Spline graph editor or Dope sheet.
nor any advance material /lighting options like SSS or HDRI.
maybe someday in paid add ons

this will a nice freebie App for basic rendering of DAZ content though. :-)

Message edited on: 09/14/2005 13:50

I installed the software plus the two free plug-in's. Played two hours with it, but I am not impressed :/ I go back to Poser6. P6 has more functionality and a better handling. Mazak

P6 also cost a bit more - not a lot (I'm an upgrader) but a bit :) Still, for what it is DAZ|Studio doesn't seem bad value. Cheers, Cliff

First Daz affiliate link I've seen. I'm guessing there will be a gradual increase in them, from one per day to 4 or 5 per day. It doesn't bother me personally, since nobody is required to click on the link, even if there is a Daz Studio forum where this thread would normally appear.

To be honest, the DAZ Affiliate scheme isn't as much fun as it was the first time around. A small case of "been there, done that" - it's hard to get excited about even taking the mick now. This isn't really a prime source for potential new DAZ converts - that's got to be "out there" - where people don't use 3D yet, I'd have thought. Still - no harm in trying ;) Cheers, Cliff

Cliff I do remember the fun we had during the first DAZ Affiliate scheme..... now I'm not even participating or commenting on it, I really don't think DAZ needs more converts anyway. As for D/S, been there, done that, don't need it, stick to Poser 6.

I found D|S clunky and frustrating, not least because you never knew when it would stop working, or develop new bugs.

But now that the 1.0 is here, maybe it will be different. I'll give it another try. If they've improved on Poser's magnets and IK, that would be great. Those are two areas in which Poser can use some improvement. ;-)

It'll be worth a look. But I'll see what others start doing with the program first, before I install.

Well, I suppose there's no rush to install it, although the plug-ins may not be free forever Oh, I'll go ahead and download everything. Why not? But I'll wait a bit on the installation & try-out. ;)

Does D/S mangle and corrupt your files while you're working in them? Does it zero a figure and destroy your poses when you switch cameras? Does it freeze when it can't find a texture? Does it look in your poses directory when you want to open a scene file? No? And it's free? Hmm...I'm on it! PS: Poser SIX SR1 does all those things.

Does D/S mangle and corrupt your files while you're working in them?

It did the last time I tried it. :-P

Poser 6 has been smooth and sweatless for me since SR1. However, I have also disabled PMD files. I think those are a source of a lot of the problems.

I thought it was awful brave to annouce a D|S release in the Poser forum..;) it's just one more tool in the toolkit..

I just read about the DAZ Studio 1 on my Windows Sidebar newsroom i guess this is big news not just to us 3D people.

DAZ has been slashdotted. I must say, their server has withstood the onslaught fairly well.

"Does D/S mangle and corrupt your files while you're working in them? Does it zero a figure and destroy your poses when you switch cameras? Does it freeze when it can't find a texture? Does it look in your poses directory when you want to open a scene file? No? And it's free? Hmm...I'm on it! PS: Poser SIX SR1 does all those things." I'm not sure if D/S does it, but I'm sure my Poser 6 doesn't do that at all. It has never ever zeroed a figure when switching cameras, not even without SR1. It doesn't need to destroy your files, just disable pmd. It also never freezes at all when it can't find a texture. So, no my Poser 6 used for at least 3-4hrs each day with huge files at times (up to 300Mb) and huge scenes with up to 14 character (not counting trees, landscapes and props) doesn't have any of the described problems at all. D/S on the other hand has destroyed files the last time I used it and yes it freezes a lot and yes it is free, but by the time it can do what P6 can do you'll be paying a lot more then you've ever paid for Poser. Just start counting the number of plugins needed for it to come up to Poser 6 standards and do that number times $20 for each plugin and D/S will not be so free anymore. But with all the excitment going on I can see people forgetting about that, but I'm pretty sure that if you want to go beyond the ordinary with D/S, DAZ will make sure you pay for it. D/S base is free for sure, but a good and fully functional and useable D/S isn't that free at all.

I don't think either program needs the boost supplied by trashing the "competitor" - they both have their own merits. My personal preference on the whole is Poser, for functionality, but that doesn't meant that D|S doesn't have a place in my toolkit too! Cheers, Cliff

"Does D/S mangle and corrupt your files while you're working in them? Does it zero a figure and destroy your poses when you switch cameras? Does it freeze when it can't find a texture? Does it look in your poses directory when you want to open a scene file? No? And it's free? Hmm...I'm on it! PS: Poser SIX SR1 does all those things." Poser 6 doesn't do that for me either - only annoying thing was that before SR1, sometimes (1 on 5 renderings) gave me the dreaded "Out of memory error". After SR1, flawless working. No crashes, no ignoring "Stop Render", no freezing on missing textures (it waits patiently for me to find them), nothing at all. For me, at least now, Poser 6 has his value paid in full. I think you are having hardware probs,I know that can be very frustrating...

I'll sing in the "Poser 6 SR1 works just fine" chorus too :o) On the other hand I have had MAJOR problems with D|S, when importing files made in Poser (for use with the Turbo Exporter to Bryce) where scenes have been totally f*ed up, all figures zeroed and texturemaps gone with the wind. I've downloaded D|S 1.0 of course. Along with the D-Formers and the IK pose thing, and I'm going to install it in a moment and play with it. But I do not expect it to replace my Poser 6 any day soon. For one thing I've been all too dependant of Python things like Wardrobe Wizard, PuppetMaster, and FaceOff's various plugin scripts. And unless I've missed someting major, D|S doesn't have Python support... It's another tool in the box, just as I have both PSP and PS and use them for different things, because there's something one program does better / easier than the other. As is with Poser / D|S.

No, D|S doesn't have Python support. It does have QT script, for which the documentation hasn't yet been released and so for which there are no tools. How inter-convertible they may be I've no idea.

Great D/S has QT script..... why not just use Python? Why not re-invent the wheel too?

The original release did include Python, but (as Poser users have reason to know, I believe) it has issues under OSX 10.2 so they switched. At thiss tage switching back seems unlikely, even though the requirements of 3delight have forced them to abandon 10.2 anyway.

I see

History. So much depends on history - and is fouled up by it! :( DAZ|Studio has QT script as it's scripting language, at version 1.0 mind you, due to history during development. Is it any wonder that Poser, Windows, (heck practiclaly every successful program out there) is hindered by attempts either to reuse old code or to remain compatible with older versions of the package? :Sigh. Humans! Cheers, Cliff