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Subject: A+B+C for FranOnTheEdge and others


Quest ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2005 at 6:16 PM ยท edited Wed, 04 December 2024 at 3:03 PM

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As per a request by FranOnTheEdge who wanted to know more about the different texture blending options using the Bryce Material Lab:

I'd like to know what type of thing you'd use just texture A for or just B or just any of them... PLUS - what you'd use:

A+B
A+C
A+D - or:
A+B+C
A+B+C+D
Or A+C+D
or
C+D
or any other combination thereof?

In otherwords what is the significance of ABCD?

One can fill volumes giving the vast number of options and combinations that can be used using the Material Lab. Not only can you blend several textures together but within each texture you have anywhere from one to three components, which can be manipulated individually using noise, filter, or phase dialogs in the Deep Texture Editor. Then you have the material options down arrow allowing you to control such things as blend transparency, fuzzy, light, several shadow options etc. So the possible combinations are endless. Your best source for in-depth detailed information regarding texture blending is the Bryce bible that is Susan Kitchens Real World Bryce. A must have for all Brycers.

Ill just touch on the basics here. A sort of appetizer introduction for beginners.

First lets make clear that you cannot blend A+B+D, A+C, A+C+D, A+D, B+C, B+D, C+D along the same attribute. That is, you cannot blend any of the aforementioned combinations along say, just the diffuse terrain attribute or just along the ambient attribute or the specularity attribute. We can use A, B, C or D in any combination on the lab grid if we insert the markers (sometimes called beads) in different material attributes for a single texture. On any one given attribute you can only use the combinations: A+B or A+B+C or A, B, C, D singularly. You can use several or all attributes in any combination of these to achieve a desired texture.

An example of using the A blend would be the Painted Desert texture, which comes as a default texture in Bryce and there are many of these that routinely use the single A blend.

A texture like Painted Desert uses a marker in its A diffuse attribute grid, uses a marker in its A ambient attribute grid and a marker in its A bump height attribute grid. It is said that this texture in the A grid is driving that particular attribute, in this case texture A is driving the diffuse, ambient and bump height attributes.

Lets say you would like to use the Painted Desert texture in combination with some other texture but you want to put Painted Desert in the B diffuse attribute grid instead. How can you do this? Place your cursor over the Texture Name and hold down the Shift key then click on the name. This will bring up the texture library to allow you to add this texture to the library if you dont already have it there. Later, when you already have brought in a texture, which occupies the position of texture A, place a marker in grid B and this will bring up an arbitrary texture into the texture B position. Open the texture library by Shift clicking on the texture name of texture B and select Painted Desert to replace it.


Quest ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2005 at 6:18 PM

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The best way to try and explain something is to simplify it. In that effort, instead of using the regular terrain textures, I opted to use simple colors so as not to confuse the eye. Just try to remember while viewing these examples that the regular terrain textures, painted Desert or Basic Wood will do exactly the same thing. Well start with the simple A+B blend. In this blend we have two texture, texture A and texture B. These two textures will gradually blend into each other when combined. Texture A will dominate the lower portion (the base) of the object while texture B will dominate the upper portion.


Quest ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2005 at 6:19 PM

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The same thing holds true with the A+B blend of the textures attributes. Notice that not only the textures blend but so does the bump heights on the two different textures in this example.


Quest ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2005 at 6:20 PM

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In the A+B+C blend, textures A and B are blended according to the alpha (value) of texture C. Here I used the CheckBlue texture as texture C to help demonstrate this. The alpha is straight-up Black and white with no shades of gray so it becomes easier to see that where texture Cs alpha is black youll see Texture A and where texture Cs alpha is white, youll see texture B.


Quest ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2005 at 6:21 PM

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As in the A+B blend the A+B+C will also allow textures A and B attributes to show through where ever Texture Cs alpha dictates. Here textures A and B show their bump height information. The A+B+C blend is very powerful. You can get some pretty extraordinary results when mixing terrain textures. Remember that any texture can also be a 2D texture. This means that you can custom make texture Cs alpha. Furthermore, you can change the mapping mode of any texture.


Quest ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2005 at 6:23 PM

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The A+B+C blend becomes even more powerful when used with a D texture. Here a fourth texture is added to drive transparency. In this case I used the Bees Eye texture to drive transparency. Imagine using this but with terrain textures instead. Now imagine duplicating the terrain object, scaling it down a tiny bit and applying a different texture to that. Here I slipped a scaled down duplicate cube and applied an A blend (green). Further imagine putting an A+B blend on that duplicate terrain. Why stop there when you can go crazy and add another A+B+C and D blend? Youll get all types of unique terrain textures. The lower image shows the duplicate scaled down cube with an A+B blend on it.


Quest ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2005 at 6:25 PM

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Heres another use of the A+B+C and D blend. After creating the terrain I exported the Altitude mask of the terrain and used it as a stencil to show me where the lowest point of the terrain was. I then brought that in as texture D to drive diffusion. This creates the dark mud hole appearance around the water. For more in-depth tutorial visit: [BryceTech](http://www.brycetech.com/) Left sidebar under advanced click Material Lab specifically starting with Part 8. But this entire tutorial is a must see for all serious Brycers.


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2005 at 11:17 AM

Hey, excellent stuff Quest. Absolutely fascinating. I'm saving this to play with later. Er.. you mentioned the BBible, I've been looking through that too, bought it a year of so ago. The trouble is I keep getting beguiled but fascinating things I see in there, like the negative lights. But I'm definitely going to try to concentrate on textures for a while. Thanks for the effort you put into producing this after my request - I hope others enjoy it too.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


diolma ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2005 at 3:57 PM

Excellent stuff!! Something I've always been a little vague on!! Cheers, Diolma



ysvry ( ) posted Thu, 15 December 2005 at 7:58 AM

thx, i knew the abc but the d blend was new for me.

for some free stuff i made
and for almost daily fotos


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Thu, 15 December 2005 at 8:54 AM

Er... you do need to visit the BryceTech tutorial to learn how to bring up the images of textures - I got extrememly frustrated with that until I read the Brycetech tut. I.E. hold down shift WHILE clicking on the texture library down arrow. I'd never seen that before, I'd only ever seen the typed list. It's amazing how much there is to learn in Bryce.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


Quest ( ) posted Thu, 15 December 2005 at 10:21 AM

Fran, it works clicking the texture name also as I explain in post #1. Thats the way I learned it way back when. Clicking on the texture name while holding down the Shift key is an undocumented feature and thats probably how I learned it, Bryce is/was chockfull of Easter eggs. Tracking down these undocumented features is how I came across this. Actually I had never tried clicking on the arrow since clicking on the arrow without the Shift key brings up the texture menu. But I guess it would have been simpler doing the same thing clicking on the down arrow. While holding the Shift key you get an illustrated image texture library when using 3D textures. If youre using 2D textures youll get the 2D texture library menu and placing your cursor over any of the image names contained there (if you have a lot of images there) will upload that 2D image onto your object. Incidentally, you can also access the 3D illustrated texture library while in the Deep Texture Editor. In the combination component you have two buttons to the right of the component display, the top one will bring up the illustrated texture library. This allows you to save your DTE masterpieces straight ahead.


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Sat, 17 December 2005 at 3:23 AM ยท edited Sat, 17 December 2005 at 3:26 AM

I had done some DTE texture playing a while ago, I didn't realise those pictures were the same library.

Thanks, this is fascinating. P.S. Must have been reading the thread in a hurry, that would be why I missed your method of accessing the picture library's images. I promise I'm reading it more slowly now, in fact printing it out so I can follow it more easily.

Message edited on: 12/17/2005 03:26

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Sun, 14 October 2007 at 4:32 PM

That reminds me, I'd better print this tut out again since it all got nicked.

Measure your mind's height
by the shade it casts.

Robert Browning (Paracelsus)

Fran's Freestuff

http://franontheedge.blogspot.com/

http://www.FranOnTheEdge.com


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