The Eovia team is also VERY user freindly, and very responsive to customers as well.. good people to be associated with.

if they are aquired, can I stop always trying to remember how to spell Eovia, Evolva, or whatever, and JUST call them DAZ?

I want Katharine McPhee to be the next American Idol she's so hot.

Otaku, as I said before, the acquisition has not affected the delivery of Hexagon 2. It is later than they had projected it to be which would have been the case no matter who's name was on the Stock certificates. If we would have owned it earlier, we would not have done the pre-sales. With that being said, it's development is continuing with the exact same team with it's exact specification and development schedule that it had prior to our purchasing the product.

Dan

Heh! Maybe Vue's 3DS exporter is vastly superior to it's Lightwave exporter, then. I haven't found the LW exporter to be of much use. You can get a terrain. Tough to get a whole scene. And time consuming.

"DAZ's "main schtick" will give us the power to do things that software companies alone will not be able to do."

...sheesh.  What's that old expression:  'I hear pretty well, but I see very well'.  We'll see.  I don't buy it.

A number of new features have also been requested by Hex 2 beta testers, and I think that's also delayed them some as well.

(I don't THINK that's breach of NDA)

From what I've seen, I can concurr with Dan that the aquisition has had nothing to do with Hex 2's release date at all, if that makes anyone feel any better.

What will happen to TransPoser and the Native Poser Importer in future versions of Carrara?

What’s the difference between Carrara and Hexagon?

I wonder if I’ll qualify for an upgrade deal from Carrara 1? 

The Native Poser Importer in Carrara 5 Pro is code that was created by the Carrara team and will remain as a main feature. Transposer was developed through an agreement between EF and Eovia from the Poser SDK and we intend to continue to offer it.

Dan 

And Poser7?

What does "forces beyond our control" mean?

"Dictate dofferently" .. strange and cryptic word to use. What force would dictate such a thing to you?

I gather by this you mean efrontier andthey will be to blame when you decide to discontinue Poser support.

Why does Daz want this software? What are you taking from it for STudio? And how does this benefit Poser? No speeches about your market. What is in this for Poser?

Nothing cryptic, the agreement states that they need to assign right to the new owners to continue using the SDK. Not a big deal, just the fact.

Dan

P.S. I edited the last part out before I read your post.

So plz answer the questions.

Why does Daz want this software? What are you taking from it for STudio? And how does this benefit Poser? What is in this for Poser?

I got an invite also but couldn't get in- all I have is a daz account- oh well

Dan,

I see you did removed the part that said... "we will continue to unless forces beyond our contol dictate differently."

Anton, I KNOW you hate Daz, but you REALLY look like you are trying to find some kinda of conspiracy right now.

:) Oh lord, more of this crap again. No Gareee I am asking a question regarding something Dan said if you don't mind. Kindly Myob.

...well.  daz buying Eovia is a bit like finding out your fine wool overcoat has been bought by a polyester leisure suit.  Kinda makes your skin crawl.

hold on

this is the 'huge' 'world changing' announcement?

...what a lack of perspective and a lack of reality...

Lol @ Tunesy, you said it man. My skin is crawling.

I see Dan,

So the agreemnet to access to the Poser sdk has to be transfered to you officially by efrontier.

You don't have this sdk liscence already? Why? Why would you buy Evolia software knowing you may not get the SDK approval from efrontier?

That Poser SDK access would allow you to use it for all your software holdings inclucing Studio?

I apologize for assuming that our reasons for purchasing Eovia are obvious. Carrara and Hexagon are powerful tools with a strong following. We see the same potential that Metacreations saw in the applications when they developed them and before they divested to become an internet company. With the acquisition we have brought in some very talented developers and marketing people onto the team. We now have a much more complete product line and tools that already work reasonable well together. 3D artists and animators will benefit from us being able to provide more functionality and tools at affordable prices and we have tried to do with our other tools and models. As for what this means to the Poser-community I can not tell.  All I can say is that we are still developing models, software and doing the business we have been doing while trying to provide the best product we can.

Dan

"Oddly, Eovia's website shows no indication of any change"

-Forgot where I read it, but I believe they will be updating their site midnight California time, which is 3.5 hours from right now. Don't hold me to it, lol. But I did read that somewhere on the www earlier today...

"Why does Daz want this software? What are you taking from it for STudio? And how does this benefit Poser? No speeches about your market. What is in this for Poser?" Maybe I'm missing something, but why should there be anything in it for Poser users? It would be like me complaining because Curious Labs doesn't include DAZ|Studio material presets with their original figures. I don't really see anything wrong with this deal, DAZ treats their customers very fairly overall and the possibility of having a modeler that could integrate with DAZ Studio sounds great to me (and probably ONLY me in this thread, but what the heck). BTW, did Aeilkema change his name to Tunesy? ;) SnowS

Why should there be anything in it for Poser users?

1. this is the Poser forum

2. Poser users paid for the purchase

3. The merchants (who have never been thanked in any interview or press release) break their backs making Poser content.

4. Daz was suppedly growing the Poser market remember?

5. Studio wasn't going to replace Poser remember?

6. this is the Psoer forum

This is the Poser forum right? lol I just wish the pretense would drop so we can just split communities and move on.

This is what the Members only forum says:

Dear Platinum Club Member,

We are pleased to invite you to create your free account at ArtZone.com (now in Open Beta, by invitation only), DAZ's new online community centered around all kinds of art, artists, art fans, fans of artists, etc!

To activate your free account, just click here, then click on the link to import your DAZ Account Information, and start setting up your profile.

ArtZone is an on-line site built by artists for artists, and it's not only about 3D! It is the place to showcase your portfolios with drawings, paintings, music, sculpture, film, blogs and more. ArtZone is a community for artists to create galleries of work, and showcase them to the world. It also has tremendous networking features that will allow you to collaborate with other talented artists, make new friends and enjoy seeing the art created by other people.

In addition, if you know of any artists (or anyone for that matter) that you feel would be interested, we encourage you to personally invite them to join using the tools built into the site. (Just click the Invite button on the main toolbar.) We look forward to seeing you on ArtZone, and look forward to getting to know you better!

DAZ's Biggest Announcement Ever
Early next week, DAZ is going to make its biggest announcement ever. We plan to debut this announcement on ArtZone prior to the public announcement. So make sure you create your account right away.

-The DAZ ArtZone Team

Bryce Lives!!

Quote - I got an invite also but couldn't get in- all I have is a daz account- oh well

That's all you need so far as I can tell.

I was asked to enter my email address, and pick my user name....and then it said to login.

EDIT:  Doubt I'll be using that site much if at all. It looks like a clone of "myspace.com".  There are ads for personals, housing,  misc items for sale from furniture to bikes. 

Why Daz needs a site like that is beyond me.

"1) this is the Poser forum 2) Poser users paid for the purchase 3) The merchants (who have never been thanked in any interview or press release) break their backs making Poser content. 4) this is the Poser forum This is the Poser forum right? lol" 1. Dan wasn't the one to post this here, someone else did. 2. That's a legitimate concern, but like I said, I don't think DAZ will just pull the rug out from Poser users. Their new products are just now starting to include D|S MATs and always have settings for P4, P5, and P6. 3. Um, what does that have to do with DAZ? I can count the number of non-DAZ merchants who support DAZ Studio on one hand, so obviously most everyone is still catering to Poser users. 4. There are also threads in here about past lives, strange fetishes, new babies, and world news...at least this is 3D related. Ack, Anton edited his post as I was waiting for Renderosity to post mine (this forum change hasn't helped things much). Whatever then, I wouldn't mind the communities splitting if we're going to have to go through this every time DAZ does anything. SnowS

As a new user of C5P & a pre-orderer of Hex 2 I FULLY expect Customer Service to remain the same as with Eovia...

I could email support at anytime & get an immediate reply & bugs squashsed ASAP by next release.  This thrills me to no end compared to past experiences with other companies like EON.

My fear here, is that this will change...I finally found a compnay that CARES & now this....

Why do I say  this...BRYCE......I know you took it over & I know the program code is in shambles...that said...It give me the quivers as to where the top 2 programs C & Hex are going based on your progressison with just the ONE program....

I've already had 1 bad experience with a 3d software & NOT looking forward to another(which is what made me switch to Carrara in the 1st place).

Just looking for re-assurance I won't be screwed again.  I'm so spent with all this & so is my wallet :(

I think I need to go  back to AZ and star a blog of my irriations...then again  I might get banned if express what I really feel.....:( & not just about this but prior experiences.

dlk30341, I cant give you any re-assurance other than restating that the team who has worked on Carrara will continue to work on Carrara and the team that has worked on Hexagon is still working on Hexagon. We are every bit as committed to see that these products will continue to develop as the last owners of Eovia were.

Dan 

Personally I think DAZ have done the best that they could with Bryce since they took it over. Bryce was going nowhere, and now it has a future. Bryce 6 I am assured is still on track for launch this year, and I for one am looking forward to seeing what will happen in the future.

"Why should there be anything in it for Poser users?

1. Poser users paid for the purchase"

So  Anton, does that mean we deserve some explanation of  YOUR purchases, since you've made a bundle on poser product sales over the years?

Place yourself on the same pedistal you are putting Dan on.

From your posts, I picture you wild eye'd, and frothing at the mouth. Chill, Dude!

You act like you are being personally threatened by Daz's purchases!

...his point was daz' history of transparent double talk when it comes to Poser.  You can always count on a daz fanboy/broker with a financial interest in daz to respond as if unbiased.

Thank you Mr. Farr....I hold you to that. If the Customer Service I've recieved to date falters from what is it is to date...you'll be hearing from me ..........When I shell out hundreds of dollars for a program I expect damn close to prefection...and I hope open beta continues(with C/Hex)...as I find this an open & honest way of doing business...NOT LIKE BRYCE /EON that is closed.  If testing resorts to closed I'll be going elsewhere...been down that road & will NOT go down it again.

I hope this works out as C5P is my fav program to date.

"NOT LIKE BRYCE that is closed"

Actually, Bryce's production is still ongoing. Bryce 6 is scheduled to be released in 2006.  :o)

I meant closed for OPEN beta testers...that are NOT under NDA......When i Beta tested C5P...all was in the open for ALL to see ...that includes errors & the the pluses for ALL to SEE...Nothing hidden.

Sorry, but I prefer things to be in the open & not hidden behind closed doors. Now Bryce 6 is behind closed doors...not cool.  For cripes sake they have nothing to hide...at  this point they can;t  compete with Terregen/V5I/C5/C5P.....so what is there to hide?????

I have my reasons....if you prefer to know PM me, as I will try not flame another company in this discussion.

Believe me I have plenty to give :)

Quote - ...his point was daz' history of transparent double talk when it comes to Poser.  You can always count on a daz fanboy/broker with a financial interest in daz to respond as if unbiased.

Actually, If you'd followed anything at all, you'd realize I've had a number of issues with daz of late, even to having to resort to selling my letest Dragonworld themed item personally via Paypal, because I couldn't get a straight answer from daz if they would carry it or not.

But just because I have a business issue with them does NOT mean they are hell bent on overthrowing the poserverse. They just aquires some VERY cool up n coming 3d programs,  no  different then when they aquired Bryce.

Now if Daz had just bought out EF, and Anton had just sold out his Apollo Maximus rights to EF. THEN I could understand a seething frothing attack... LOL!

giggles

So now I am frothing and seething too? My goodness. :) Tell me when I sprout horns so I can run and look in the mirror.

Btw: How's moderating going at PoserPros?

Well I am going to check out for the night. I know that I have not been able to answer all the questions but for some of them only time will tell. I can say that there are a lot of people at DAZ and Eovia who remain just as committed to this industry as we have for many years. With the acquisition, that committment increases. I realize that there are some people who are unhappy about this because they are uncertain what it means for the future (or they may have other reasons) but, I want to re-iterate how excited we are at DAZ to have the great people of Eovia on our team and expect to do some great things together.

Sincerely,

Dan Farr

Good night Mr Farr...I'm not unhappy nor happy...just skeptical.......

I hope it works out for all of us  :)

Lots of excitement over this news, I think it will be a good match.

I was/am a big fan of Metacreatios software and was disappointed when they divested their interest, I was happy to hear when Daz bought Bryce, Corel didn’t see the value in it. Just think of what could have happened, Eovia could have been acquired by Autodesk and renamed to 3D Studio Max the Carrara Edition “Powered by Maya”. :)

Congratulations Daz and Dan

I just want to add that I am excited about this opportunity for Eovia.  I have spent a good deal of time with Dan and Chris and the team at DAZ over the past 2 weeks, and will spend a great deal more here.  We are coming together very well as a team, and I am confident that this will lead to great success for our users as well as for ourselves.

Charles and I are committed to keeping the Eovia vision alive, and Dan and Chris clearly believe in what we have achieved.  Moving forward as a combined team will provide us all with opportunities we could not realize alone.

This is a great time to be an Eovia user!

Best,
Bob

"I meant closed for OPEN beta testers...that are NOT under NDA"

Ah, okie doke, gotcha.

:) to Agent Smith

I hope I dont blackballed or something for speaking out...been there done that & too old for games :)

I'll remain(try to) postiive until I see otherwise...........As I like Daz & Eovia :) Both have receivced lot's of my $$$ LOL

During all the commotion I guess my question was missed. Well, either that or I’m being ignored.  And that’s okay, I’m used to it; my wife does it all the time.

But is there not one kind soul out there who can explain the difference between Carrara and Hexagon, and is willing to do so?

If not, well, just ignore this message.

i guess there is some history here of which i am not aware, but i also guess that a bunch of people are just emitting hot air. i just went through autodesk's acquisition of alias, and man, that was superheated as well, with loads of speculation about all the horrible things that would happen, most of which was completely nonsensical. frankly, my impression of DAZ is a lot better than my impression of autodesk. i remember bryce languishing terribly after metacreations dumped it, so they've done a good thing there by continuing to develop it. and it makes no sense whatsoever to pull the rug out from under poser users. but indeed, time will tell, so how about letting some time pass before jumping down their throats without lube? thank you dan, for replying calmly in a hostile climate. i am glad to hear hexagon will continue as planned; i am mainly a maya user, but have been seriously impressed by hexagon 1.2, think it is the most exciting entrant into the 3D modelling market in quite some time, and have been recommending it to people. i can see why this is a thrilling announcement for DAZ, and the acquisition makes perfect sense. best wishes for combining the two companies. (and before some wild-eyed panic-stricken doomsayer accuses me of being a fanboi; i have no association whatsoever with DAZ beyond just a regular account; i'm not even a PC member.)

It basically boils down to this:
Hexagon is a fast stand-alone modeler.  It does not have any animation or rendering capabilities.
Carrara is a full 3D suite, with modeling, animation, terrains, shading (and more) plus rendering.

Of course, this is over simpliefied, but it should give the basic idea.

Best,
Bob Stockwell
Director, Sales and Marketing
Eovia

I am new on this forum so maybe I should start with 'hello'.

But as to how this will benefit Poser users, Carrara and Hexagon are both content creation softwares right?  Poser caters to people who create their own content so I would think this is a good thing. If they so chose, DAZ could attempt to make Carrara and Hexagon the default content creation tools for Poser.

Not that e frontier necessarily wants that to happen. They own Shade and likely want that to be the default content creation tool for their own software. There is really only so much DAZ can do. Poser is moving away from DAZ.  Are Jesse, James, Koji and Miki even DAZ models? Regardless, it seems both companies are making moves in directions away from each other (I mean, they are selling Poser/Vue bundles).

As I havew said before, I am cautiously optimistic...

Go DAZ!

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"i guess there is some history here of which i am not aware, but i also guess that a bunch of people are just emitting hot air."

Yes, there is a lot of history here of which you are not aware.