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Subject: Looking for one of these type of drums


chohole ( ) posted Fri, 05 May 2006 at 3:29 PM · edited Mon, 25 November 2024 at 3:56 PM

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Thought I had seen one in freestuff somewhere, but can't find it at  the moment. does anyone have any ideas please. :huh:

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danamo ( ) posted Fri, 05 May 2006 at 3:45 PM

Ah yes, that would be a Djembe. An African drum with a goatskin head. I haven't seen one in my wanderings, but it shouldn't be too hard to knock out a fairly credible model using Wings, or some other capable 3D modeler.


chohole ( ) posted Fri, 05 May 2006 at 4:11 PM

Yup, that's the one. I did have a go in hex, but have to be honest. At the moment nothing is quite gelling in my brain. I have never done any 3d modelling, so its not going well.

I have actually managed a reasonable facsimile by using Steve Ray's incredible morphing cube. Rough but it will do at a pinch with a good tex map.

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danamo ( ) posted Fri, 05 May 2006 at 4:25 PM

I'll give it a shot as a modeling exercise and post a pic here. If you like my version I'll be happy to email it to you.😄

 


chohole ( ) posted Fri, 05 May 2006 at 4:39 PM

Thanks, that would be great

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danamo ( ) posted Fri, 05 May 2006 at 4:44 PM

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Okay, this is my progress after about 4 minutes, but I was interupted by a phone call, LOL.Does the general shape look adequate? The cord/tensioners will be more difficult, but definitely "doable".


Mahray ( ) posted Sat, 06 May 2006 at 12:30 AM

I can also have a go if you like, although it looks like danamo is doing a good job.

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danamo ( ) posted Sat, 06 May 2006 at 1:24 AM · edited Sat, 06 May 2006 at 1:25 AM

Thanks Mahray. The more the merrier AFAIC,LOL. I'm just trying it 'cause It's an interesting object and Pam needs one.  You may well have a better take on this 'cause the stringy part is taxing my ingenuity. I thought about using the spline-modeler in Carrara for that part, but I need more practice with it. I may try to kludge the rest of this together in Wings too.😄


danamo ( ) posted Sat, 06 May 2006 at 1:34 AM

Hmmm, another thought occured to me. I could just try to UV map the basic low-poly model here and paint a bitmap and displacement map to use on it in Carrara. Carrara5 will let me export the micro-displacement as a high poly model, though Chohole uses a lot of high-poly DAZ figures and probably doesn't need the "extra calories",LOL.


chohole ( ) posted Sat, 06 May 2006 at 1:46 AM

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That is looking really good Dan. I have to admit Some of my scenes to get a bit cluttered with poly's. I don't worry too much..can always composite in PS if it gets too heavy

The cube I have modified is over 18000 poly's, without the tensioning strings. I have uvmapped it and added them on a tex map, but the general shape is not right.

This is a poser render..looks better in bryce.

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



danamo ( ) posted Mon, 08 May 2006 at 5:56 AM

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Just kidding about the polys,LOL. However many it takes, is what it takes.😄 That morphing cube must be pretty cool; I'll have to check it out. Your drum looks good. I didn't want you to think I'd forgotten about the djembe, so I thought I'd post an update.  I'll be done with the stretchers soon. I'm "hand-knitting" the poly layout first, then an area extrusion, a bevel, and then a smooth should give a good effect.Had to take care of an elderly sick friend this weekend, so I didn't get as much done on this as I'd like. I'll have another update later on.


chohole ( ) posted Mon, 08 May 2006 at 6:05 AM

Wow that is looking really good.

Steve Rays incredible cube (free stuff here) is pretty cool, if a bit heavy on polys for a cube, but it does do some great things. I used a combo of 2 of his morphs to get the shape, then exported an obj from poser (Did I mention its a poser prop?) and mapped it cylinder cap in uvmapper, and saved the new obj and the map.

I also use his alternative primitives a lot, like cubes and things with rounded or bevelled edges, they are for Bryce.

Me I just sort of look at the interface of Hex, and think now what do all these things mean. Think its time I went and found a few basic modelling tuts before I boot it up again.

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



danamo ( ) posted Mon, 08 May 2006 at 4:24 PM

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Just a further bit of progress. Refining the upper "string" area. Next I'll finish off the bottom.


SFGfx ( ) posted Mon, 08 May 2006 at 4:48 PM

Wow, Danamo!  That's looking really good.  What are you using to model it?  Wings?  Or did you take advantage of the Hexagon 2 offer at Daz? 

I'm going to try this as well, just as an exercise.  I need to learn Hexagon.  (Of course, mine won't be nearly as detailed as yours.)  Great work.



danamo ( ) posted Tue, 09 May 2006 at 1:39 AM

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Thank you SFGfx. I'm modeling this in Wings simply because that is the modeling app that I have the most experience with. I haven't purchased Hex2 yet, but I plan to. I guess I've been waiting for the initial rush to die down before I tried to D/L it. Well, that and I plan to also purchase a higher-end graphics card and more memory so my computer can handle it, LOL. I can recommend this object as a modeling excercise. It looks deceptively simple, but it was challenging, and best of all fun to do.

Well, I think I'm finished with this Pam. I'll send you the .obj ZIP, if you like. It has 36,490 polys, 5 material/object groups, and weighs in at 1.55MB in standard ZIP format.


chohole ( ) posted Tue, 09 May 2006 at 2:09 AM

Thanks a bunch Danamo.

My standard e-mail addy should handle a file that size.

It's the one logged in here

pam_chohole@yahoo.co.uk

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



danamo ( ) posted Tue, 09 May 2006 at 2:56 AM

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Here it is with materials turned off. I figure some good textures, or Bryce procedurals could work well on this. When I learn how to use Hex2 I might try to use the displacement brushes to make the stretchers look more like woven cords.  Cheers, Dan


danamo ( ) posted Tue, 09 May 2006 at 3:35 AM

BTW, I meant to tell you that I think your African "fairy" is a delightful creation.It isn't the "garden variety" fairy that one so often sees 'round here.😄 Hope the drum works out for you. Use it however you like.


chohole ( ) posted Tue, 09 May 2006 at 5:25 AM

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All bryce procedural textures, except for the carving which I did with a bump map I just happened to have hanging around on my HD.

Thanks again Danamo, it's ab fab!

:biggrin:

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to develop  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



xenic101 ( ) posted Tue, 09 May 2006 at 8:12 AM

Outstandingly amasing job you two.


danamo ( ) posted Tue, 09 May 2006 at 2:33 PM

Thank you Pam! It was my pleasure to do it. I love the way you textured it. That texture suits it to a tee, and I really like the procedural you used as well.

@Xenic101- Thanks!


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