Ok well...

Yeah I have to agree with ROCHR here... I dont think its an improvement. It seems to me that flesh (softcore, poser crap WHATEVER you wanna call it) will always dominate. There's no changing that.

I dont really care about the Hot 20 or the Art Charts... I post here because I enjoy sharing my work. I would hope thats why everyone does it...  EVerything else doesn't matter.

....  www.jumppoint.org

to get into the top rating?

got my vote - vote early! vote often!

2 questions. Does this come under Fantasy, Pin-up or realism? And why haven't you posted credits? I cannot believe you created that pose and hair yourself.

Stephen Ray, it's so beautiful!!! I love that natural pose, it really shows off her glowing skin. Just beautiful. Great Work.

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"Sorry but back when renderosity was mainly a poser site i wasn't around computers, born, or into 3d graphics".

I wasn't having a go at you CrazyDawg, I just thought you must be very young going on what you said. 8)

@ rochr Your absoulutely right. To much emphasis is placed on the top 20. I understand why Brycers feel the need to be in the top 20. It's because there's just not that many places for us to show off what it can do. If you want your work seen though, the renderosity top 20 or top 50 whatever it's called, isn't gonna get you noticed. There's a whole big world out there. I use Bryce professionally. I have commissioned dozens of novels, and numerous magazine covers over the last year. I'll never get rich doing this but a few hundred dollars per Bryce pic isn't to shabby, and it's doing what I love to do. I didn't get there though by being concerned if my work shows up in the renderosity top 20.

I don't post here much anymore because it's just become to easy to get lost here in the sheer numbers of users. Renderosity is a great community for learning about Bryce, or chatting with your friends. Just don't expect to get anywhere here as an artist. That's the real reason why the truly great ones are all leaving. Even they started to get trampled by all the hobbyist poser people.

Actually, i´m not so sure about the "not getting anywhere from here" part. Based on personal experience, you can very well get noticed by editors, recruiters etc. But naturally, the more places you post, the better your chances get. 
And although i agree with great art getting lost in the crowd, i think most of the larger communities/galleries suffer from the exact same thing. Nude characters generate more views regardless of where they´re posted. Unfortunatly. :glare:

I was reading somewhere few months ago (I forget where, and I can't find a link now) that the cashflow in porno is significantly bigger then it is in mainstream hollywood movies (If those could be consiodered art, or at least artsy film entertainment).

If this is true, the prevalence of T&A in here is proportionate to the population at large, I suppose.

What I've learnd from some psych classes is that the drive for sexual fulfillment is typically much stronger then the drive for self efficacy and intellectual fulfilment (not to be confused with less important). When you try to mix the two, the stronger one is bound to prevail. When I look at what's hapenning here, my reaction is, hey, that stuff I learned way back, seem to fit.
Intellectual pursuits get more important after the sexual ones have been satisfied. Such is life.

So, it seems that if those whom prefer to come here for more intellectual and spiritual type pursuits would be better served if there was some sort of segregation between the genras (sp?). (I have no idea how I'd go about figuring out where to draw the line, that's yet another can of worms, better opened later.)

Don't tell me that most able bodied men (or women) in their prime and a loving partner will not set aside a book or a drawing or another piece of art for an, um, booty call when they're in the right mood... :m_tongue2:

One solution I see is to get guys to be more selective... um... nevermind, bad idea :P

"...the prevalence of T&A in here..."

True Ambience? ;-)

Yeah but Rudy you are the exception rather than the rule. You are gonna get your art noticed no matter where you post. That's not the case for alot of other people. I guess I really have it backwards what I said anyway. At least here at Rendo one of the only ways to get noticed for many Brycers is the top 20. I wasn't thinking of it like that when I wrote what I said. I guess what I am addressing are the artists that really have a strong desire to get their work seen. You know as well as I you just can't limit yourself to Renderosity and it's top 20. You might luck out and get an assignment if a recruiter or publisher happens to stumble upon your work. But in the galleries where it's just a free for all, then getting individual attention is extremely dificult.

I agree these top 20/voting things all have the same problems at any gallery that implements them. Even the juried galleries where they limit the uploaders all suffer from the same exact issues. Renderosity has been great for building my confidence levels in my abilities, and the sense of community is appealing as well. But, it hasn't yeilded many assignments, at least not for me. For that I have to rely on my own marketing skills.

***"...the prevalence of T&A in here..."
**True Ambience? ;-)
*Talented Artists!

I thought T&A stood for talent and ambition. Or textures and animation.  I hope it doesn't mean Boobs and Bums. There is too much of that sort of thing in here.

Every second Poser image is a naked Vicki. They dominate the ART CHARTS. But this is probably not a good place to start an argument about the Hot 20 replacement.