Funny thing is, I remember having this problem when I first built Sea Siren. Now I'm having the

same problem again, and it's been so long since the last time, I can't remember how to solve

it. I got the outer section of the Siren all ready, posable, turned into a figure and saved in the

figure library. Load her in again and most of the parts are invisible, despite 'visible' being

checked on their properties. Can anyone let me know what causes this? I can go any further

until I solve this and I've tried everything I could think of.

 

Greywolf

 

If you are using poser 6, go into the material room and move the transparency dial up and down a bit and then put it back to where it was. See if that helps. It does sometimes.

Nope, tried that. Since a few parts are still visible, I don't think that is the problem.

As I said before, I had the problem with Poser 4 and ProPack as well.

 

Greywolf

 

can you post a screen shot of your material room settings?

Have you tried simply using another material just to see, e.g., select all nodes and delete the present material from the skin, it will then just be white preview. now create a new diffuse_color node like a 2D texture map and just select any jpg you have handy. make sure transparency is 0.0 with no other settings except diffuse_color set to white. that should help pin down the problem.

HTH,

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Hmmm. I could try that. The REALLY curious thing is the she's perfect in her PZ3 file, and

the OBJ file also imports with no problems. It's only if I save her as a character in the

library that it screws up. As I said, Poser 4 and Propack did it too. Maybe I should try

saving her in the prop library and see if it does the same thing. Even when I loaded

the PZ3 and without touching anything, saved her in the character library, she still had

missing pieces when I reloaded her from the library. Yet the OBJ file her CR2 calls, is

fully intact. It's a poser all right! (GRIN)

 

Greywolf

 

Check the UV map, I have had things disappear if the UV map is not correct or corrupted UV coords. Also depending on the model (I have no idea what model you are loading) the normals can be messed up. If the normals are messed up,  you can delete them from the obj file.

A similar problem : I've been working with Poser4 for years, I thought I knew all the problems related to it. I also use P6. I made a new clean install of Poser4 on a new computer (3Mb RAM, Pentium D 3Ghz, nVidia 7900GT 512 Mb RAM ). While P6 performs well, as usual, Poser 4 (updated version, of course) loads well when launched BUT I can't see nothing inside the working window of the program. I can see the countour lines of the models I load when I move the mouse cursor over them but they are totally transparent. I uninstalled a couple of times, reinstalled, nothing doing. All my drivers are up to date, the machine is new, no virus, no conflict of any kind, so what can it be ? I like working with P4 in the first place because it is faster for posing and testing morphs etc .... What can cause models or objects not to appear inside the working window ?

 

Greywolf - do you have the correct path to any external geometry in the CR2 ?

Yes, paths are correct for any item or scene I load . Even Poser's props appear like that inside the window.

AhHa!

Now that I know what you mean by invisible, I may be able to help.

If there are different actor names in the  two files you will end up with missing parts. If the cr2 calls for "rHip" and the equivalent geometry is named "rightHip," the part will not load and will be "invisible."

They are not invisible, they are simply not there.

You'll have to load each into a text editor and work your way through the actor name structures to see where they differ. 

HTH,

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Hey Softshot, if this is happening on all models loaded into a scene it may be a corrupted preferences file.

In Poser 4, try and delete the preset pref's file and the Poser.ini file. Go to Poser 4 (or 5)> Runtime > prefs and delete the Poser.ini (Poser Prefs on a Mac), Poser UI (your monitor's resolution).xml, and Library Prefs.xml files and relaunch Poser. Only delete the files not the folders. I have a feeling this will get you going again. If it doesn't, let me know.

Softshot make sure you have this update if you have more than 1 gb ram.

Poser 4.03/Poser Artist Memory Updater

from efrontiers site

This happens when you're making a character? I had something similar happen when I mis-spelled the name of a group--"Hip" instead of "hip". Suddenly, that whole piece of mesh vanished from the version I'd saved as a character. UVmapper is good for checking the group-names, and correcting them. Use "Select by Group" and "Assign to Group".

Hello all,

thanks for your messages.

-AntoninaTiger : no, it happens with everything I can load. Even a simple box prop will appear the same. Nothing is mis-spelled here; it happens after fresh installation when Poser loads its default fiure at start up.

Teyon : thanks for your message, it sounded good when I read. But after doing so, nothing new happened. The problem is unsolved.

Fuaho : Ahha! fresh install.

Thanks again for your support and curiosity in this case.

Frank

fuaho
I read your post and bells rang in my head. THAT was the solution the last time it happened,

and while I haven't had time to check yet, I know it happened this time too. I, uh, kinda forgot

that renaming parts isn't good when the names are already set in the OBJ file. SIGH. Time to do

some renaming. :)

 

Greywolf

 

Greywolf Starkiller,

I remember you were looking for a texture in another thread, but I'm too tired to track it down, so I'll just use this thread instead. I don't remember if you are using Poser 5 or 6, but the material should be the same in either one. The User Defined node allows total control over the color. Just use very small increments when you make changes. (Click for a more readable image).

Glad the bells rang re: the missing parts. 

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Thanks for the Poser material. I saved the pic cause it DOES look like a good mat for the hull.

Another question. Can you put a tex OVER a material, like a decal? Sea Siren has her name

and emblem on the conning tower, and if this can be applied over an existed material, then

mats should do for most of the sub and textures will only be needed on screens and a few

other areas. I'm hoping the answer is yes. :)

 

Greywolf

 

Hello,

 

your texture discussion is very interesting, guys.

But, huuum, well, thanks anyway.

 

Frank

Quote - Thanks for the Poser material. I saved the pic cause it DOES look like a good mat for the hull.

Another question. Can you put a tex OVER a material, like a decal? Sea Siren has her name

and emblem on the conning tower, and if this can be applied over an existed material, then

mats should do for most of the sub and textures will only be needed on screens and a few

other areas. I'm hoping the answer is yes. :)

Short Answer: Yes. Save your decal as a PNG with an alpha-channel mask. In the materials room, use the scale and offset parameters on the image map to size and position the decal. Then feed the materials settings for the overall background into the Background input. Easiest is to load the MAT first, and reconnect the diffuse color through the image_map node. The big advantage is that you don't need a huge decal image. I'm not sure if the alpha channel element works in Poser 5. At worst, you would have to make a mask as a seperate bitmap and use a blender node. For something like painted letters, you could use math nodes to distinguish the colour from a white (or black) background, turning grey and white into black and white.

Softshot,

Since you kind of came in in the middle of this thread, it's to be expected that we would be dealing more with Greywolf Starkiller's problems than yours. Might I respectfully suggest that you start a new thread describing your problem with Poser 4? That way you'll get responses from people who use and know Poser 4, not people trying to solve the "Mystery of the disappearing submarine."

HTH,

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GWSK,

There is a python script in the printInfo section that may be of use to you. It lists all the internal names of objects in the open file. Just open the python scripts window and select the appropriate section and script & the rest is automatic.

I also played around a bit with adding text over a material and could include an example if it is of any interest.

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Fuaho,

The problem is solved completely, thanks to your suggestion. The problem wasn't so much

the renaming, as it was the spaces being replaced with underscores in the OBJ file. Of course

when THAT happened, the names no longer matched. Also, OBJ names are limited to a

certain length, 14 or 15 characters, I think. If the Poser name is longer than the name window

in an objects properties dialogue, the OBJ will have only the letters that fit in the window, while

Poser will have the full name, hence, again, name mismatch. The solution is simple, short

part names, and hyphens instead of spaces. :)

 

Greywolf

 

Ship ahoy!!

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One last question for you. This is not a problem, per se. More a lack of experience.

Since I was never able to extract OBJ files from the Poser files, I never learned to UVmap

my models. Poser 6, however, DOES seam to save with OBJ files external to the Poser

file. I purchased UVmapper Pro to do the UVmapping. What I'd like to know; Are there any

tutorials on UVmapping COMPLEX objects? All the tuts I saw were simple objects with easy

UVmaps and simple templates. I disassembled the Sea Siren so that the entire outside is

a figure, and each individual station, are figures. I did this so you only need to load what is

needed for a shot, rather than the whole sub. :) Even so, they are quite complex, and the

simple tutorials don't go far enough. I simply don't know where to start. Heh.

 

Greywolf

 

I'd start a new thread on this UV Mapper question because there are plenty of folks out there who have used it much more extensively than I have. I'm sure they will be glad to assist.

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