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Photography F.A.Q (Last Updated: 2024 Nov 01 10:53 pm)
My pic was posted here and on my own website: www.mystic-pic.com .....where righ-clicking is disabled....even though that means nothing. :bored:
How come we say 'It's colder than hell outside' when
isn't it realistically always colder than hell since hell is
supposed to be fire and brimstone?
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Andreas
Mystic
Pic
Quote - I think it's more than evident that the photos and Poser work were lifted from Rendo instead of other sites, as the Rendo user names are included in many of them. That ISP needs to shut that site down.[/quote
I'm agree with you but if you see all this webpage, you can see this member isn't alone to make this error. I see a lot member put image without the autorisation... i just see a lot of picture of britney spear or other artist, for example... I think , the first person to make mistake in this Xwall is the admin and moderator for don't verificat all the images to post all the user....
Incredible..!: I got a message from Cosme (isacos). His image was the first one I spotted 2 days ago. I sent him an IM with the URL and here's what Cosme did: he registered on the site and left a comment under his image, in which he kindly asked gdmora to remove the image and to ask permission first before uploading an image that wasn't his own original work. Gdmora removed the image and sent a message back to Cosme, saying: "Apologies, I didnt know you were the author... next time I'll be more aware, keep well." Mind you, the image caption read: "Tximist by isacos"... and the guy pretends not to know that Cosme was the author... Incredible... he's a liar as well...! By the way, Valou and Loloe, if you just copy the page address that you find on top of your browser to show us the images, you'll see that you always end up with the same address... and the links to the images will not work. You'll have to right click on the image and open or copy the image address itself to display the images.
We do
not see things as they are. ǝɹɐ ǝʍ sɐ sƃuıɥʇ ǝǝs
ǝʍ
LOL! That´s somewhat funny. I personally love that you get that "copyrigt xwall" when you right click the thumbs, LOL.
How come we say 'It's colder than hell outside' when
isn't it realistically always colder than hell since hell is
supposed to be fire and brimstone?
____________________
Andreas
Mystic
Pic
Sounds to me like approaching people like gdmora is a waste of time. The whole site should be shutdown for copyright infringement.
Marlene <")
Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog
"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure
depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog
gets depressed again." - Jay Leno
Hi guys / girls!
I did like to check this site out myself, i signed up, still doesnt let me in . Keep getting some error in spanish of course so I am out of luck...pleeeease help !
seeya Tunde
This is a message I get back.....Valouuuu! help please.
:: Error ::
Posibles causas,
El registro en XwallOnline.org es totalmente gratuito, [Regístrese]
Página principal
So now I am done for today browsing this darn site for stolen images...grrr...
but as said before only three people borrow photos form RR: maxlara, gdmona, fidato50
but gdmona and fidato are quite bussy as you can see from my list for Bruce below:
found one by tofi:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1309274&member
stolen from gdmona:
http://xwall.metropoliglobal.com/galerias/datos/media/19/on_the_double_by_tofi.jpg
one by Kjr:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1333955&member
stolen by gdmona:
http://xwall.metropoliglobal.com/galerias/datos/media/19/butterflies_princess_by_kjr.jpg
29 by abetaltre all stolen by fidato50
the second one from undertaker stolen by fidato50 (the first one I have already postet)
original
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1178376&member
stolen
http://xwall.metropoliglobal.com/galerias/datos/media/153/shooting_by_Undertaker.jpg
the 6 from erlandpil all stolen by fidato50:
original
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1316098&member
stolen
http://xwall.metropoliglobal.com/galerias/datos/media/19/Blue_Girl_by_erlandpil.jpg
original... Erland changed it to red and blue, but can be in the forums..dont know
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1311704&member
stolen
http://xwall.metropoliglobal.com/galerias/datos/media/19/Red_And_Blue_by_erlandpil.jpg
original
stolen
http://xwall.metropoliglobal.com/galerias/datos/media/19/Body_And_REd_Apple_by_erlandpil.jpg
original
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1305262&member
stolen
http://xwall.metropoliglobal.com/galerias/datos/media/153/Lulles_Eyes_by_erlandpil.jpg
original
stolen
http://xwall.metropoliglobal.com/galerias/datos/media/153/Art_On_Body_25_by_erlandpil.jpg
original
6.stolen
http://xwall.metropoliglobal.com/galerias/datos/media/153/Pretty_In_Tatoo_by_erlandpil.jpg
1 from keepzen stolen by fidato50
original
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1304305&member
stolen
http://xwall.metropoliglobal.com/galerias/datos/media/153/Naade_by_keepzen.jpg
You have to wait for the email that confirms your registration,Tunde. If you don't get it shortly,check your spam filter,it may be in there.
Edit...Wow Ulla!That was really wonderful of you to do that for them. I'm sure they will all be most grateful for the time you spent on their behalf.
Marlene <")
Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog
"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure
depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog
gets depressed again." - Jay Leno
I just got this from what appears to be the XWall staff. "In a message dated 12/13/06 5:09:39 PM, jlluesma@msn.com writes: Hola, Debido a problemas con la pina, Renderosity Digital Art Community ( http://www.renderosity.com/index.php ), os pedir que eliminarais de XwallOnline.org todas las imenes que habs subido de esa pina Web. No les vale con que pongs el nombre de autor de la imagen, ni nada Saludos y Felices Fiestas." ----- Roughly Google translated: "Hello, Due to problems with the page, Digital Renderosity Art Community (http://www.renderosity.com/index.php), would request to you that you eliminated of XwallOnline.org all the images that you have raised of that page Web. It is not worth to them whereupon you put the name of author of the image, nor nothing Greetings and Happy Celebrations." So I guess the RR admin put on the heat in some way shape or form and XWall's response is to ask all of it's members to pull any RR images they may have posted. Who else thinks that is a little weak? But still, it is good to at least see something is being done. And yes, thank for all of your hard work Ulla! I hope feathers stayed warm and the carpet unburnt!
Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations
I sent a letter today ...to the hosting company
Just pointing out the obvious
:m_redfaced:
I still have some work to do on this..
www.bclaytonphoto.com
bclaytonphoto
on Facebook
Quote - Definately worth looking into...
And here is another site that deals with basically a one person crime wave epidemic, if any of you post at DA you may have heard about this one. If not worth looking into as she does on occassion lift photography, and has been a member here... Lots of links and tons of stolen work.
Brenda
This is odd, I'm banned from the site you put a link to but it's the first time I've ever visited & probably the last.
Windows 7 64Bit
Poser Pro 2010 SR1
I just got the same email,Kort and was going to post it here. Yes, it's weak but I'm guessing they saw the potential for the whole site going kaplooie...lol.
Edit: You're banned from a site you've never been to?How bizarre.
Marlene <")
Marlene S. Piskin Photography
My Blog
"A new study shows that licking the sweat off a frog can cure
depression. The down side is, the minute you stop licking, the frog
gets depressed again." - Jay Leno
Babuci
:: Error::
Possible causes,
Zacko, open your firefox, and without to move the mouse, you click right, tape enter with the keyboard and you have the windows where you see propriety after the window of "copyright :lol: closed. I make that... With IE you cannot, or I don't know i don't test...
Quote - I just got this from what appears to be the XWall staff. "In a message dated 12/13/06 5:09:39 PM, jlluesma@msn.com writes: Hola, Debido a problemas con la página, Renderosity Digital Art Community ( http://www.renderosity.com/index.php ), os pediría que eliminarais de XwallOnline.org todas las imágenes que habéis subido de esa página Web. No les vale con que pongáis el nombre de autor de la imagen, ni nada… Saludos y Felices Fiestas." ----- Roughly Google translated: "Hello, Due to problems with the page, Digital Renderosity Art Community (http://www.renderosity.com/index.php), would request to you that you eliminated of XwallOnline.org all the images that you have raised of that page Web. It is not worth to them whereupon you put the name of author of the image, nor nothing… Greetings and Happy Celebrations." So I guess the RR admin put on the heat in some way shape or form and XWall's response is to ask all of it's members to pull any RR images they may have posted. Who else thinks that is a little weak? But still, it is good to at least see something is being done. And yes, thank for all of your hard work Ulla! I hope feathers stayed warm and the carpet unburnt!
Kort : you really go very soft... you can to send them this page : http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1-espanol.html
Or send that http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html and they must to reading the art. 501...
Quote - XWALL site, it is mentioned (in Spanish) that there is a part of the site (Usuarios) where the users can post their personal favorite images (from other creators!!!) that they find all over the internet... and that the ownership of these images remains with their original creators. Of course, the site owners can't be held responsible for any mis-use of other people's images.
It is a -VERY COMMON- misperception that 'copyright law doesn't matter if I do it free'...
It is especially common in online forums, websites, file sharing, etc...
In almost every debate about copyright online, some yahoo comes in and claims they can copy and repost and so on because they aren't charging for it, or they are just using it for their 'personal uses' - as if posting it to the world was a personal use...
A lot of website owners fall prey to this same incorrect belief - and the presence of products like napster, utube, and so on only contribute to this belief.
But copyright of course, doesn't work that way.
If A hold copyright to X, B cannot copy it without getting permission from A. End of most of the discussion. Doesn't matter how B uses it, barring a small list of exceptions. Those exceptions mostly relate to academia and reviews. They do not cover general free distribution. But a common belief is that they do.
Further, you cannot disclaim liability for an illegal act if you are the party knowingly enabling that act. Which is the case here - as they first set up a form for people to use to break the law, suggest to them how to go about breaking the law, and then try to claim they are not responsible if people then actually go ahead and break the law. It doesn't work that way.
Spanish law, as a member of both the European Community and the EU, is not going to be that different from US law on this point - that site owner could be hauled into court by anyone of the people here who's work has been stolen.
Note also that unlike trademark, not hauling them into court won't cause you to lose your copyright.
If there is anyone who's work has been stolen who is in Europe, people with an interest might want to pool resources around that person in order to hire a local lawyer to draft up the EU version of a cease and desist letter.
Getting a notice with a law firm's name on it is often enough to scare people out of their illegal acts.
Truth has no value without backing by unfounded belief.
Renderosity
Gallery
I have just recieved an email from Xwall asking me to remove all the images taken of Renderosity.
This is the text translated literally: "Due to problems with the page, Renderosity Digital Art Community, I should ask you to remove of XwallOnline.org all the images uploaded from that web. It dosent suit to them putting the name of the author of the image, not anything."
I hope the translation it is right and maybe some of you is receiving the email if you have registered in that "web". For me is a shame this web is owned by spanish people. Hugs to everybody !
I believe the e-mail that was sent from xwall went to all of it's members..I signed up, and also got one..
I took the time to send a polite response ....
I may have mentioned a few names..
I hope to have more good news to report on this matter soon..
www.bclaytonphoto.com
bclaytonphoto
on Facebook
To me, the standard email sent to xwalls members is a cop out.....If they were really concerned they could have gone and deleted all the affected images themselves rather than ask their members to do that. Then after that, issue a statement to it's members discussing copyright matters.
As it sits right now.....the onus is on it's members to remove YOUR images....that may be a long and painful process.....some members may not even be active anymore....
In addition, their statement only addresses Renderosity uploads.....I guess they still condone the practice if the images are stolen from elsewhere....
In youth, we learn....with age, we understand.
First off thanks Ulla for tracking down these images and giving us the links....That's a lot of images to go through to get the URLs.....
I joined this bogus site to check out what images they might have ripped and did find mine there...pretty sickning to see it on another persons site with out permission. I also got an email from jlluesma@msn.com with this message in spanish:
Hola,
Debido a problemas con la página, Renderosity Digital Art
Community ( http://www.renderosity.com/index.php ), os
pediría que eliminarais de XwallOnline.org todas las imágenes
que habéis subido de esa página Web. No les vale con que
pongáis el nombre de autor de la imagen, ni nada…
Saludos y Felices Fiestas.
I used Google to translate and this is the best it could come up with....maybe some of our spanish speaking friends here can translate it better......Aloha~
Hello, Due to problems with the page, Digital Renderosity Art Community (http://www.renderosity.com/index.php), you he would request that you eliminated of XwallOnline.org all the images that you have raised of that page Web. It is not worth to them whereupon you put the name of author of the image, nor nothing… Greetings and Happy Celebrations.
Yep - got the same email. I for my part have to retract my previous assumption, that it was a minor issue. Seeing that we're talking hundreds of images and several people having part in this image theft - it appears to be a large scale problem.
I am astonished - that there is no official statement from Renderosity available at this time.
Whether or not they as a company have taken any official action - and if yes - which.
I applaude our moderators however, who try to get a handle on this, as I especially point out Ulla for her excellent research.
When are we going to learn about the official R'osity point of view?
"Life is not measured by the breaths we take, but by the moments, that take our breath away!"
More good news to report...
all three of these folks will not be visiting Renderosity again..
I'll do my best to keep an eye out for any of them coming back under a different name.
As for xwallonline
We need to stay on top of them. Obviously their host company said something to them..
I would suggest that everyone who got one of these e-mails from them, take the time to respond, in a polite and firm way.
feel free to mention the offending parties...
If we do not see some definitive action in the next day or two..Then we can continue to press the host company..
Perhaps one of our Spanish speaking members can assist us in drafting an e-mail to send to the admin@xwall..
I will see if we can find an e-mail addy on that site
www.bclaytonphoto.com
bclaytonphoto
on Facebook
Quote - You can post it in the Copyright forum as suggested but also you should contact this person and demand they take down your work since you did not give them permission. The copyright guru's will also give you additional information.
That's Stacey's response so far - and I can't help to say - this is unsufficient - to say the least.
If Renderosity suggests that it is our problem and we have to take action then someone is missing the point.
For one - if we as members are not being supported by R'osity in a problem that is obviously almost epedemic - why should we keep posting our artwork?
The artwork of all artists is Renderosity's backbone, thus I am astonished by such an indifferent statement.
What good would posting it in another section of the forum do?
It will be exactly the same discussion as we have it here.
I'm sorry - but that is not what I expect.
"Life is not measured by the breaths we take, but by the moments, that take our breath away!"
well, to the admins defense...I took it upon my self to run with this matter..
I have been in contact with both Stacey and Clint along the way..Thus the lack of response from them in this thread
We do however need to work to a long term solution..
That may take some time..
www.bclaytonphoto.com
bclaytonphoto
on Facebook
If any of mine have been lifted, I don't know it yet....maybe not good enough to lift but a few are...This is truly sad but in my years of life I have seen everything from photos to machines and jewelry knockoffs, to blackmarket movies..available for sale.
Funny, like a one in a million side effect of a medicine, for instance, affecting a very small percentage of the populace..when it affects you it is 100%! If someone steals your photo or mine, it is 100% and very, very wrong. The world is full of those less than ethical low types, unfortuantely.
I hope those here with lifted photos can get some sort of proper recourse. I really do hope that.
Tom.
As much as I feel for all who have had images lifted, I think the administration have done fairly well in responding in the past.
That is when it is brought to attention.
This happened before while I was a moderator, and Stacey was always involved with it on the upper end. The mods do the main reporting back in their forums.
As long as there is internet this will happen. I doubt this site would survive if they had to have satff monitoring the www for all stolen images from here.
It is like asking why do people break windows or steal cars. It's going to happen...governments can't control it either.
More to note that it is also the same offence to copy and paste emails or personal messages. The same goes for taking a screen capture of this site with my image on it and posting it in a forum elsewhere.
Can you imagine....some of these very members who want their work protected, yet do it themselves.The irony of it. I think they should be dealt with the same as staff are right now dealing with this issue.
But as Gradient said, and I have before,
Quote - This brings us right back to what I have been saying for some time here.....if you post anything...it will likely get stolen. And that will continue to happen unless you make it more difficult.
This is so correct.
I know we all would like our images to look as good as we can, but the only real way to stop it is to write your name over the middle of the image and perhaps in other places.
There is also ways to script images that when a thumb is clicked to enlarge, and other click on the image closes it. This makes it only available to a screen capture, therefore making a certain population unable to save it as.
The ones who will get it know the ways around it.
There could be stricter enforcement of first time offenders caught within the site posting copyright images.They may get some of the offenders, but as they are,another is just around the corner.
@kjpweb.. yeah...I agree , this is epidemic and perhaps there should be some meetings held to try and come up with some strategies.Because it is nice to have a community site to share artwork at.
But it is almost like asking the police to go investigate someone who steals the car stereo. In this city it ain't gonna happen.
I won't be around this planet long enough to spend too much time worrying if someone grabbed an image from me.But if I ever change that train of thought, then silent and vigilant is the way.
"The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the
absence but in the mastery of his passions."
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Sorry I haven't seen Dalyn's pic was already here!
I also found a pic of defkisum:
http://xwall.metropoliglobal.com/galerias/register.php?action=activate&activationkey=9b199be01320666ebb6902df249379ef
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1299711&member