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Subject: V4 lip morphs - taking requests


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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:42 PM

Doing a little bit of showcase rendering and then I'm going to try for that forked tongue morph.  Glad you like em :)

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pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:44 PM

file_371861.jpg

High contrast...

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Neyjour ( ) posted Thu, 15 March 2007 at 11:57 PM

Wonderful morphs pjz99!  Thanks for making these freebies!  😄

How about Drew Barrymore?  She has some beautifully shaped lips:

http://www.famousbabes.com/pics118/drew/drew117.jpg
http://www.famousbabes.com/pics118/drew/drew062.jpg
http://www.famousbabes.com/pics118/drew/drew043.jpg
http://www.famousbabes.com/pics118/drew/drew034.jpg

"You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf


pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 12:01 AM · edited Fri, 16 March 2007 at 12:04 AM

Looking at those, I'm pretty sure the built-in morphs can already do lips like hers - I'll make a stab at settings and see if you like them.  The first one is mostly makeup, the way her bottom lip is made to look.

Edit:  seems like the big distinctive feature about Ms. Barrymore's lips is the way the outer part of the top lip is very shallow.  Pretty sure I can duplicate that with the built in morphs, give me just a bit.

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Neyjour ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 12:06 AM

Thanks.  😄

I haven't played around with the lip morphs much, so I really don't have a good idea of what can or cannot be done.  So I'll just throw out some suggestions and you can take a crack at whatever strikes your fancy.  😄

Fairuza Balk:

http://www.fairuza.net/gallery/photoshoots/b01cor.jpg
http://www.fairuza.net/gallery/photoshoots/fairuza+balk+32.jpg
http://www.fairuza.net/gallery/photoshoots/xpic11.jpg
http://www.fairuza.net/gallery/photoshoots/xpic15.jpg

"You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf


Neyjour ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 12:20 AM

Meredith Salenger (beautiful lips...beautiful everything!)

http://web.telia.com/~u87704415/index.html/msigned2.html
http://web.telia.com/~u87704415/index.html/msigned1.html
http://web.telia.com/~u87706334/index.html/m14.html
http://web.telia.com/~u87706334/index.html/m28.html
http://web.telia.com/~u87706334/index.html/m46.html
http://web.telia.com/~u87706334/index.html/m29.html

"You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf


pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 12:27 AM · edited Fri, 16 March 2007 at 12:30 AM

Ms. Balk's lips you could get to with this LipBottomTrapezoid morph, and making the lower lip wider (ought to do it).

Ms. Salenger - that looks like another separate morph I think, to yank down the space between the ridges of the philtrum.  I did that with the Lips-Bow "full lips" morph but didn't think to make it separate.  Easily added...

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 12:36 AM · edited Fri, 16 March 2007 at 12:42 AM

file_371865.jpg

Another high-contrast... ps: blame DAZ for those bumpy-ass teeth.

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Neyjour ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 12:48 AM

Michelle Pfeiffer (she's got very signature lips 😄)

http://www.pfeiffertheface.com/MAGAZINES/PIC/COV/1989-15.jpg
http://www.pfeiffertheface.com/MAGAZINES/1984_PromLH/01.jpg
http://www.pfeiffertheface.com/MAGAZINES/cov/1990-04_tvFotogramas.jpg
http://www.pfeiffertheface.com/MAGAZINES/PIC/NIN/058.jpg
http://www.worth1000.com/entries/52500/52921hMOL_w.jpg
http://uweekly.com/images/2006_08_16/Michelle-Pfeiffer.jpg

"You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf


pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 12:59 AM

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I think I can do that with my LipTopHangeyDowney morph set a bit negative, I'll try that.  Meanwhile here's a quick try at a Fairuza Balk-like mouth, accomplished with: built-ins LipBottomEdgeHeight (-.3) LipBottomThickness (.3) LipBottomWidth (.75)

mine
LipBottomTrapezoid (.1)
LipTopHangeyDowney (.45)

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Neyjour ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 12:59 AM

Rachel Weisz:

http://venus.provocateuse.com/images/photos/rachel_weisz_02.jpg
http://www.h-magazine.com/images/general/celebs/rachelweisz.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f129/neonbutterflyxxx/womenspring06cover.jpg

"You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf


Neyjour ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 1:01 AM

Very nice!!  😄

Will you be including any of these as presets, or just the dials?  If it's just the dials, I'll have to jot down those values.  :)

"You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf


pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 1:08 AM

I don't think a bunch of presets would be all that valuable to the general population, although you're welcome to these numbers - realize though, this is like 10 minutes of trial and error, it's not black magic.  :)

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 1:31 AM

file_371874.jpg

Michelle Pfeiffer-like, accomplished with: Built-ins LipBottomWidth (-.75) LipsPartCenter (1) - note this is under EXPRESSIONS LipsPucker (.1)

Mine
LipBottomTrapezoid (.9)
LipTopHangeyDowney (-.2) - be aware that this is about the edge of where this morph looks acceptable, any further negative and it starts to look very strange

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 1:40 AM

Ms. Weisz has a pretty good little overbite going there, doesn't she.  :P

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 2:03 AM · edited Fri, 16 March 2007 at 2:15 AM

file_371881.jpg

Drew Barrymore analogue, accomplished with Built-ins LipTopEdgeHeight (-.75) LipTopEdgeCurve (-.5) LipBottomThickness (-.6) LipBottomWidth (-.75)

Mine
LipBottomTrapezoid (.75)
LipBottomValley (.2)
LipTopHangeyDowney (-.2)

I'm pretty confident the other lips visualized here so far can be done with a combination of the built in morphs and these new ones, I'm going to get that last lip morph that seems to be on the agenda (the philtrum dip) and call these done. 

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Neyjour ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 2:04 AM

Vera, vera nice!  Can't wait!  😄

"You don't know what we can see
Why don't you tell your dreams to me
Fantasy will set you free." - Steppenwolf


pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 2:14 AM

file_371882.jpg

LipTopPhiltrumDeepen mesh.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 2:37 AM

file_371883.jpg

LipTopPhiltrumDeepen closeup, and that's a wrap.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 4:26 AM

Annoying, I am down to trying to generate the INJ/REM poses and I'm having a hard time.  I see the INJ pose (built with Dimension3d's Binary Morph Editor), I see the names of the morph in the pose file, along with the deltas - but when I apply the pose to a blank figure, I don't see where the morphs went.  😕

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 1:07 PM

file_371922.JPG

Problem solved - seems the trick is one must use one of the built-in, hidden channel names reserved for this purpose (PBMCC_15 through PBMCC_20 in this case picked at random).  The dials now show up on the head under INJ Channels (Hidden) -> Community.

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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 2:27 PM

Uploaded to Freestuff and waiting for approval.  In the meantime if anyone cares to, they can be had from my file locker here:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/rrfilelock/download.php?fileid=28956&key=8629

Enjoy!  I'm going to go make a stab at a forked tongue morph since I'm in this mode anyway.

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Coleman ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 3:53 PM

Thanks!


jjroland ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 4:14 PM


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jjroland ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 5:03 PM

I could have posted reason for that, its the lips I was trying for.  Maybe you have already got them, I haven't had a chance to do much more than just breeze through this thread - been moving all week.


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pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 5:50 PM

Woops - well, if you come up with some request feel free to ask, I think we can work something out.

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size8 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 6:14 PM · edited Fri, 16 March 2007 at 6:17 PM

oh wow there great Thank you


Iuvenis_Scriptor ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 8:05 PM

When you finish this project, what are the chances I could talk you into making something similar for the V4 eyelids?  They're my one remaining complaint about V4.  For example, it's almost impossible to make the outer half of them heavy and then taper the inner half.  With built-in morphs, they're pretty much either thin all the way across or heavy all the way across.


pjz99 ( ) posted Fri, 16 March 2007 at 11:00 PM

This project is done :)

The eyes are much harder to create new morphs for than the lips, because they're automatically deformed as the eyeballs rotate.  I don't mind taking a stab at it but it isn't likely I can do a whole lot, I don't know enough.  Can you show a picture that visualizes what you want?

I don't think the forked tongue morph I had in mind is going to be very practical.  I can morph the tongue easily enough when it's at a zero morph state, but it doesn't interact well with the built-in tongue morphs at all, if any of the built-in sliders are moved then the morph goes nuts - again, probably because of automatic deforming going on like the eyeball/eyelid relationship.

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lululee ( ) posted Sat, 17 March 2007 at 11:57 AM

Thanks so much for this wonderful top quality gift.
cheerio  lululee


pjz99 ( ) posted Sat, 17 March 2007 at 12:57 PM

Four hundred and sixty three (463) downloads!!  I guess a few people wanted this!

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StevieG1965 ( ) posted Sat, 17 March 2007 at 2:21 PM

Fabulous work!   Thanks much for these.


grichter ( ) posted Sat, 17 March 2007 at 4:33 PM

Licking my lips to get back from a business trip in Asia to where my main poser puter is located to give these a whirl for a storyboard project I am just getting started on. The preview images posted in this thread are...ah...lip smacking good! Thanks a ton for making them available.

Gary

"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"


estherau ( ) posted Sat, 17 March 2007 at 7:42 PM

Now pjz99 lets see all the new V4 characters that begin to appear! Thanks so much! Love esther

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winter200 ( ) posted Sun, 18 March 2007 at 8:54 AM

Your lip morphs have made a world of difference on V4! Thank you !!!


pjz99 ( ) posted Sun, 18 March 2007 at 4:37 PM

1100 downloads, hee hee!  I am gratified.  :blushing:

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shante ( ) posted Mon, 19 March 2007 at 11:27 AM

Hey pjz 99 love your lips!...ahh...err...I mean...your V4 Lip MTs. Since someone else had an alternate request I thought I would ask it here. Hope that doesn't upset too many folks here. If it does let me know and I will start a new thread. I have a deeply rooted foot fetish and was wondering if you would be interested in this challenge or if you or anyone else knows of any already in existance...but I would love to get some feet and toe morphs for V4. I have been religiously using V2 who had nicely shaped feet from out of the box. But someone...and I am sorry I just don't have a name here...created the V1/V2 funky toes morphs which not only allowed many individual toe movements but also size/shapes. I love V4 but her toes in relation to her foots are too long and pointy in my opinion and was hoping to get simlar toe mts to change both the size to foot relationship but also add individual toe shapes, sizes and movements! I know...weird..but I had to ask! :)


pjz99 ( ) posted Mon, 19 March 2007 at 5:20 PM

I can give that a try but I have no time just the now.  I'm not all that optimistic that I can create a new morph for this, that will behave well with the other foot morphs, for the same reasons as the tongue morph problems I had, but I'll give it a go.

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shante ( ) posted Mon, 19 March 2007 at 6:19 PM

Thanks More than I could have hoped for. Will the result or failure to do so be publicly posted here or will you PM me about it if or when doable?


pjz99 ( ) posted Mon, 19 March 2007 at 6:47 PM

I'd just make it public like these lip morphs are, it'd be a very small download.

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