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Subject: (OT sort of) Nero DVD Burner Software - Help!!
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I have tried 3 DVDs and all give me the failed verification. They say that they burn successfully, but the verification of the disk fails.
I bought Verbatim DVD+R disks.
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able to know ourselves fully as we
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This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Quote - **EDIT:
**I just noticed that my DVD+R disks say "up to 16X".
My DVD Burner is 18X.......does that matter? Is that the problem?
No that shouldn't be a problem. If you can get yourself a DVD-R disc and see if that makes a difference. I have Nero 6.6.0.13 and have found some DVD+R discs to give me trouble. I also use Nero startSmart which is part of the Nero software program. Do you have that with your version of Nero? I have used nothing but DVD-R disks and never had a failure with any.
EDIT: Re-reading your post you may have a conflict with the Nero software and your DVD drive. Can you play a commercial DVD or CD with no problems? How about an old disk you've burned in the past will it run?
Quote - Do the rest of your experimenting on a RW or you could end up with a load of shiny coasters! :huh:
Funny you should say that, not to down play the current problem, but my neighbor must have had burner problems too. She made a mobile of spent DVD and CDs and has it hanging on her porch next to the wind chimes..LOL!
Nero sucks period, I used to have it and had no end of problems like you're alluding to here.
Easiest solution! Bin it and get "RecordNow" instead!
It's very easy and intuitive to use and has so far never given me any problems!
I dare say others will disagree with what I've said! [shrug].
Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.
Did you just upgrade to Vista? I know Nero 6.x will not work with Vista...
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One word of **major ** warning..... if you switch to something else, do not use Sonic DLA.. it has bugs that cost me several hundred hours work in files that evaporated and "converted" to something wierd that even DLA couldn't read. Have you tried just straightforward drag and drop? Also, as I recall... there are several parameters, some of which need to be set/reset when you do a burn... have you looked at those? Lou.
"..... and that was when things got interestiing."
I got a DVD for christmas, and it had a USB connection. Didn't work, until I found out that I needed USB 2 instead of 1. Although...now that I think of it, you have a brand new PC, so that wouldn't be it...never mind...;)
I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
Some times just updating the firmware helps. The KEY_HARDWARE_ERROR message means it's most likely not a disk thing. It's a new computer and not likely to have had another burner in it using different software so a conflict of two different burning softwares is not the culprit.
I would check the firmware and the driver to see if they are both current and can be used with your OS.
Ok, at my work we burn a hell of a lot of DVD's, so many for promotional work that we have dedicated Rimage DVD copiers. We avoid DVD + R like the plague, as the seem to cause no end of problems...we always use quality DVD - R...they seem more reliable across a broader range of hardware (Mac and PC) and we have less rejects.
Never had any problems with Nero myself...ok, over the years it has become too bloated, but as for DVD and CD recording I have never had a problem with it.
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Quote - Have you tried selecting a slower burn speed in nero (there should be a drop-down list).
Are you sure none of the files are currently in use - that can confuse Nero, and seems to have a worse effect during verification than during burning.
I didn't know I could select a different speed.I will check that out.
Also, the files are zip and .exe files that are in a folder on my desktop and none were in use in anyway while they were being burned to DVD.
Quote - If you can get yourself a DVD-R disc and see if that makes a difference. I have Nero 6.6.0.13 and have found some DVD+R discs to give me trouble. I also use Nero startSmart which is part of the Nero software program. Do you have that with your version of Nero? I have used nothing but DVD-R disks and never had a failure with any.
EDIT: Re-reading your post you may have a conflict with the Nero software and your DVD drive. Can you play a commercial DVD or CD with no problems? How about an old disk you've burned in the past will it run?
I do have Nero StartSmart, and I did try it with the 3rd DVD attempt and got the same errors. I also have something in the menu list called "Nero Backup". I haven't tried that though.
I only have DVD+ disks here, no R- ones.
I tried playing my LoTR DVD and it works just fine. And the CDs that I have burned using my other computers read fine too.
Today is the first time I tried to burn anything with this new computer.
Quote - Acadia what type of DVD playeris ti? Is it a combo drive or just a burner?
I don't know the brand. Is there a way I can find that out?
My invoice only says: "18x DVD +/- RW DL and I was told that I could use RW and R CDs and DVDs, even the double layer DVDs that are available.
Quote - Nero sucks period, I used to have it and had no end of problems like you're alluding to here.
Easiest solution! Bin it and get "RecordNow" instead!
It's very easy and intuitive to use and has so far never given me any problems!
Thank you. I will keep that program in mind if I can't get this working.
Quote - Did you just upgrade to Vista? I know Nero 6.x will not work with Vista...
No, my computer has XP Pro on it. I tried Vista on the Dell that I returned and it was just horrid!!
Quote - I got a DVD for christmas, and it had a USB connection. Didn't work, until I found out that I needed USB 2 instead of 1. Although...now that I think of it, you have a brand new PC, so that wouldn't be it...never mind...;)
It's the thought that counts :)
Quote - Some times just updating the firmware helps. The KEY_HARDWARE_ERROR message means it's most likely not a disk thing. It's a new computer and not likely to have had another burner in it using different software so a conflict of two different burning softwares is not the culprit.
I would check the firmware and the driver to see if they are both current and can be used with your OS.
Firmware? What's that? Also, my hardwear drivers should be up-to-date as it's a new computer.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
New computer doesn't always mean newest drivers or firmware - parts take time to work through the supply chain, and the system software generally comes from a master installer which doesn't get updated all that often rather than from individual install CDs or downloads as when you do the job yourself.
I went to Device Manager and found this for my CD/DVD burner: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F
I did a search on the net and it seems that it's a Samsung model.
Here are some links, but I don't know which driver to install:
http://www.photodex.com/support/drivelist.html?make=Samsung
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_all.php
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2330
I saw this on some of the pages at the above links and it's freaked me out! LOL
Quote - These pages are only for advanced users. Bad flashing could destroy your drive definitively. Read carefully the installation notes of your firmware before you upgrade. The Firmware Page and the drive manufacturer can't be responsable on REMEMBER: This is at your own risk!!!!
So before I download and install something that will cause my nice new shiney computer to blow up, I thought I'd check with you first :)
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Hi Acadia...
I've been using Nero forever and I had that problem once... I just unchecked "verify files" and every data dvd I've ever done since (with unverified files) works perfectly!!! It may just be that Nero's file verify thing just plain sucks!!!
Gerard
The GR00VY GH0ULIE!
You are pure, you are snow
We are the useless sluts that they mould
Rock n roll is our epiphany
Culture, alienation, boredom and despair
I got Sonic DLA with my new computer and didn't like it. I installed Nero 6 (which I used with my last computer) to my new computer and it works fine! Hope you can get it to work!
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
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Quote - You can find out this way.... open Control Panel--- open Hardware "Tab"--- open Device manager--- Look down the list until you see DVD/CDROM Devices, click on the plus sign to open that... the name and model will display. Lou
It's a **TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182F
**> Quote - Acadia, sorry to hear about your problems. I've found it best to not tempt fate by downloading or installing something if you're unsure or uneasy about it. Also just currious if you've checked one of the dvd's just to see if any of the data is on it?
I just checked the last disk I burned, and it shows 3.97 gigs which is the same as the size of the folder I was burning.
While the files all seem to be there according to the size, I'm concerned with these validation errors. If a validation fails, doesn't that mean that some of the files that were burned are now corrupt or badly saved? 3.97 gigs is a considerable number to try and go through one by one to see if they all open or extract.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
don't know if this was mentioned or not as i've just scanned a bit, but i think i normally "format" the dvd, then "back up files" with nero, i think the formatting just makes it so that you can add files to the disk after the initial burn, haven't done it for a while, but do need to update my backups, so i'll do it tomorrow and let you know how i did it (if i remember how)
I use DVD+RW disks by the way(not had a prob with 'em so far), and also have a samsung drive.
How do you format the DVD first? I can try that and see if it makes a difference.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Great thanks. I'm going to try it now and see how I fair :)
I just have zero luck with electronics, hehe
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
One other thing...you'll need to make sure that it "knows" that this is a DVD-rom that you are making.... I believe they call it a "DVD Data Disc". the link is to Samsung, where the only thing that I can find is two (?) manuals for your particular drive. I have downloaded then, and can send them along, if you wish. Lou
http://www.samsung.com/support/productsupport/download/Model_Select.aspx?type=&typecode=300400&subtype=&subtypecode=300405&model=SH%2DS182F&fileType=UM&language=
P.S. I'm afraid the address is a bit long winded.
"..... and that was when things got interestiing."
Lou.
also if you are NOT using Re-writable disks those icons might not appear as an option to you (something to do with the incd part,(checks what kind of disk you put into the drive)) so it may limit the number of options available to you because of the type of disk you have put in.
i think if you are NOT using Re-writable disks then your option would be to "make data DVD" not certain though but it looks right to me.
i only ever use either CD-RW or DVD+RW disks, so i haven't had the probs others are mentioning.so i don't know the consequences of not using the formats i use, but don't remember having a problem burning stuff before with the above type disks.
That's the fun with data validation.
NO burned DVD/CD is error free. There are always some bad spots.
But DVD and CD both have a good error correction system. Only when the amount of badly burned data is too much, the CD/DVD is indeed "bad".
Nero validation apparently checks for all the bad spots and does not take the error correction mechanism into account. So I expect that each and every burned CD/DVD will "fail" Nero's validation.
If you want to test the DVD, you'll have to batch unzip the complete contents to a temporary folder. I even could write a PoserPython script that could check an entire DVD by extracting each individual zip file to a temp folder, (optionally) compare the extracted files with the originals, logging everything, and finally clearing up the temp folder.
Got too many projects going on to give that script a shot, I'm sorry...
The pen is mightier than the sword. But if you literally want to have some impact, use a typewriter
Ok, if it's the validation system in Nero, I'm ok with that. It would just suck to have yet another experience with bad disk burns.
I guess I'll take my chances because I have 97 DVD R+ disks left and because they're open and 3 are used, they can't be returned. I guess I'll find out if I end up with a whole bunch of drink coasters.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
just for your edification (so you can fling this around with the techs..;)
Firmware is code that's actually written to the hardware itself (on an EEPROM chip back in the day, lawsy knows what they use now..;). It's the basic instructions that make it a DVD burner instead of a cup holder..;) Over time, problems with a given piece of kit will emerge, and the manufacturer will 'update' (rewrite with fixes, patches, etc) the firmware to fix the previous problems. The firmware is loaded by several means (FTP, Internet Explorer, Copy /b, etc., take your pick..;) to your device (in this case the DVD)
Usually these are downloadable from the manufacturer. I do this a lot with HP network printers, and it's fixed several problems on those. I'd check with the manufacturer's tech support people before doing this. Usually it's not a problem, as long as you let the thing run. Turn it off early (or have the power go off), and you may be left with a cup holder...;)
By all means, I'd check with the manufacturer, and with Nero too. I figure since they made it, they should help me fix it. Good luck.
I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
Hey Acadia... IMHO you can really just do away with all this by unchecking "verify files".... I've since had to reinstall EVERYTHING poser related (12 dvd's pretty much all full) (free stuff and purchases) twice in the last year and all stuff burned without "verifying files" installed exactly as it they should have....... Also the burn/verify process will be a heck of a lot quicker than with the verify option on....
Also, with your dvd+r's you don't need to format as that's only for rewritables or dvdram disks!!
Gerard
The GR00VY GH0ULIE!
You are pure, you are snow
We are the useless sluts that they mould
Rock n roll is our epiphany
Culture, alienation, boredom and despair
Verification works for me, if the files aren't in use, and it's a worthwhile check - at least until you're sure the thing is reliable. If the files are zips you could just use your archiver's Check function, which should catch many forms of corruption. One thing I did find, on my old systems, was that having DMA on for the CD drive could cause problems but I doubt that would still be an issue n a new machine.
Hey pakled, at the Samsung site, the was no offer of updates of either drivers or firmware, just the manual. And, yes, there are a few that still flog that dead horse... firmware updates. in view of current tech, it seems kinda silly to be going that route, these days. Lou.
"..... and that was when things got interestiing."
Quote - Verification works for me, if the files aren't in use, and it's a worthwhile check - at least until you're sure the thing is reliable. If the files are zips you could just use your archiver's Check function, which should catch many forms of corruption. One thing I did find, on my old systems, was that having DMA on for the CD drive could cause problems but I doubt that would still be an issue n a new machine.
I use Winzip for zipping and unzippling. I didn't know you could verify the archives. Can you tell me how to do that with Winzip?
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Quote - Nero sucks period, I used to have it and had no end of problems like you're alluding to here.
Easiest solution! Bin it and get "RecordNow" instead!
It's very easy and intuitive to use and has so far never given me any problems!I dare say others will disagree with what I've said! [shrug].
I won't. Burner suites are largely bloatware. I see no reason to pay for that crap, when there are free tools for all of it:
Burnatonce writes images (images are the way to go when burning discs IMO, you get a lot less problems when your burning software is burning a single file (an image) than when it's parsing tons of files with no "wrapper").
ImgBurn burns those images to disc (it has a verification option, if you like that sort of thing).
Arcadia, you might want to try these programs and see if that clears up the issues.
Quote - I use Winzip for zipping and unzippling. I didn't know you could verify the archives. Can you tell me how to do that with Winzip?
I don't know about Winzip, but free (nagware) Winrar does archive verification, at least for files compressed in RAR format. I made a post in your other thread about it.
Never did figure out the difference between +/- R DVDs, people always just sais to use - and I'm too lazy to look considering I haven't needed to buy any after my first load of 200 -R gifted to me :) so unsure of the effect of +R
I run verification on all disks I burn, never had a problem since the day nero6 came out, so I would suggest buying a single DVD-R to just test it, maybe 50 cents? and even though the burner runs at 18x speed, i would suggest (assuming you find the option) to burn is at lower, say 4x speed, no need to push the limits when you don't know that everything works perfectly below the limits. If you still get errors after that, I'd say hardware/software issue. Wether or not the data is indeed intact and fully usable, and error is just due to the verification scanner itself, there are ways to compare files that don't include nero.
choose burn data dvd
put in a dvd-r
burn at 4x with verification
as for testing zip files, I use winrar, not winzip, and winrar has a few more options :) but as for winzip, you should be able to right click a file and choose "open with winzip" and a window comes up with all files in that zip. then an icon or an option in menus will say "test" (since i can't see myself, don't know exact look/name) but that's testing them 1 by 1, files bought from daz which are exe installers, won't work with this method of checking.
edited to add: nero6 also has the option to burn to harddrive (creating a single image file) and create from image (burning the cd/dvd from that file) as suggested above
If you enabled the "shell extensions" for WinZip you should have a set of entries added to your right-click menu, either as a WinZip sub menu or as a series of individual entries on the main menu. The one you want is something like Check archive or Test archive (if you select all, or at least a lot of, the zips and right-click on one of the selected items you can go away and leave it working - you'll get a report at the end).
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I finished reinstalling all of my hair files to my Hair Runtime. Now I want to burn the files to DVD just in case everything goes bye-bye again, this way I don't have to hunt out the files I had installed.
Anyway, I've tried 3 times to burn a DVD R+ and get errors during the verification of the disk.
Here is what I do:
Click "Create Data DVD"
Click "Add" and browse to where my files are.
Click "Finish"
Click "Next"
Enter in the name I want the disk to have.
Put a checkmark in the "Verify files" box
Leave the box next to multisession unchecked.
Click "Burn"
The DVD burns and then goes through the verify process, but gives me errors during the verification.
I have Nero Version: 6.6.0.19
Here is part of the log that shows the burning was successful but there were problems with the verification. I have no idea what it all means, but it seems that it's a "hardware" issue of some kind (either burner or the DVDs).
Anyone have any tips on how to burn DVDs successfully with Nero? Or a link to a different burner software that may be better? I've never used Nero before but it came with my new computer. I would use my old software but it doesn't have a DVD option.
LOG
8:05:51 AM #26 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 18x (24,930 KB/s)
8:05:51 AM #27 Phase 78 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Data verification started
8:11:22 AM #28 SCSI -400 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1437
SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0C281C00
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x04 (KEY_HARDWARE_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x3E
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x28 0x00 0x00 0x18 0x3E 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3E 0x02
8:12:26 AM #29 SCSI -400 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1437
SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0C281C00
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x04 (KEY_HARDWARE_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x3E
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x28 0x00 0x00 0x19 0x7A 0xB0 0x00 0x00 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3E 0x02
8:12:26 AM #30 SectorVerify 20 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 10032
Read errors from sector 1588752 to 1588767
8:13:00 AM #31 SCSI -400 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1437
SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0C281C00
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x04 (KEY_HARDWARE_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x3E
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x28 0x00 0x00 0x19 0x9D 0xF0 0x00 0x00 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3E 0x02
8:13:00 AM #32 SectorVerify 20 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 10032
Read errors from sector 1669808 to 1669823
8:17:14 AM #33 SCSI -400 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1437
SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0C281C00
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x04 (KEY_HARDWARE_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x3E
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x28 0x00 0x00 0x1F 0x8B 0xC0 0x00 0x00 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x04 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x3E 0x02
8:17:14 AM #34 SectorVerify 20 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 10032
Read errors from sector 1678832 to 1678847
8:17:26 AM #35 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion
8:17:26 AM #36 SectorVerify 20 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 10032
Read errors from sector 2067392 to 2067407
8:17:26 AM #37 Phase 81 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
**Data verification failed
EDIT:
****I just noticed that my DVD+R disks say "up to 16X".
My DVD Burner is 18X.......does that matter? Is that the problem?
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"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi