Hi all, 

I am considering upgrading from Vue 5 Esprit to Vue 6 Esprit. I am wondering if someone can tell me if there has been an improvement in memory management in v6 (i.e. does it render faster, etc ?)

thanks,
Andrew

Some will tell you not to bother but, from my own personal experience, I love my V6 Esprit.  I haven't had any problems with memory management and, if I need to, I can always purge the memory using that option in the file menu.  

Rendering is a subjective subject for me since I'm using a lot more spectral and volumetric atmospheres, along with my own ecosystems (I bought the Ecosystems module) so my render times can run from a few minutes to a lot longer.  My most recent addition to the Vue gallery was, in fact, an 18 hour render but it turned out well.

Thanks, Victoria Lee.

Its mainly the new cloud capabilities (i.e. the spectral and volumetric atmospheres) that I find attractive about v6. I got sick of rendering pictures where the sky only had wispy cirrus clouds.

I also noticed that (according to the Comparative chart) there is a 130% improvement in rendering - whatever that means. Sounds good though, as v5 often gave me a nasty message saying that it needed more memory than was available.  

Anyway, this is all attractive to me especially as I don't have a very gutsy computer (Pentium 3, 2.8GHz, 512 MB of RAM). Basically at the low end of requirements - but its worth mentioning that I also have Poser 7 which has similar requirements but I dont experience performance issues with it. 

regards,
Andrew

BTW, how did you purchase your EcoSystem module ? 

I clicked the "Expansion Modules" link on the left-hand sidebar on e-onSoftware's page and followed the links. But when I tried to find out the price of it, it dumped me on the Vue 6 Pro Studio's page !

That's where you buy any and all of the expansion modules.  What you get is a Vue 6 Esprit serial number and then a s/n for each module you buy.  The modules are already present in the install files.  I bought the Ecosystems and Botanica modules.  Next week I'm buying the Deep Access and Light Tune modules.

The Ecosystems module is $99 USD so it'll be different for you.

You would probably be better doing a sidegrade to Studio Pro now, rahter than buy all of the modules seperate, which is a little cheaper down the road.  That would give you a step up, for less money if you wanted to go to Infinite later. 

Attached Link: http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/vue/vue_6_pro_studio/?page=8

The attached hyperlink is where I end up once I try to find out about how to purchase the modules.

Also, back to the original question about how good Vue 6 Esprit is, can you tell me if the spectral cloud mapping is resource-intensive or not ?

Depends on how many metaclouds you intend to use in a scene.  I've got an image in the Vue gallery that uses only spectral metaclouds and it rendered in a little over an hour.

http://www.e-onsoftware.com/buy/?page=2  

This will give you all the prices.  To purchase, just click on the Buy Now link on the left hand side.

It is a bit confusing, but you are not really buying modules, just the license, or Product Key to the module. 

The modules are installed along with the Vue version of the application, in the Folder named Modules; they are just dormant until you click on a module install file. Then you are required to add the Product Key you previously purchased, which is sent to you by e-mail. 

Hope that makes sense.

thanks, keenart, it does make sense

Can i join this thread :}
I just Got Vue Esp...  and i got the eco sys too but when you saw it in V6.inf .. its nothing like that!!
In V6 inf.. you can paint the plants/rocks etc et where you want on the terrain..
In V esp you cant :{ it more a hit or mis placing of them...

But from my point of  Vue its great so far...

Chris 

Hi Bar-code, please do join the party. Glad you are enjoying Vue Esprit, do you have v6 ?

yes i ahve Vue 6 Esp now ..upgraded from V 5 esl to V6 esl to V6 esp... incl Eco

And i found out that you get WIN and MAC versions of the program no matter wich you buy..
But E-on dont mention that anywere ..strange

Chris

The difference between Vue 6 esp and Vue 6 inf ecosyst is that the module is ecosystem 1, and infinite the ecosystem 2. The second generation permits you to "paint" your ecosyst wherever you want as a virtual "plant pencil"...

I had missed that when i bought the Lightune module, otherwise i had reconsidered an upgrade to infinite. Now i began to buy the modules, i guess i have to go on until i have all of them. 

Does Vue esp turn into vue studio when you own all the modules?

That is the very same question I would like to know, since I only need the Botanica, which I have and the Eco-system, which I have not purchased yet.  So If I buy the other modules, I wonder if it turns into Pro, if you have them all?

Somehow I doubt it, as there should be a difference in Product Keys.  And when I compared the difference between Esprit with all modules and Pro, there was a price difference.  Also the same for the sidegrades so it seems that e-On wants to keep the two seperate as far as price goes.

So instead of buying the Eco module, I will wait a month of so and buy the sidegrade to Pro, and save a few bucks, and get Infinite next year.  The difference between a sidegrade from Esprit and Infinite is monumental not so bad from Pro to Infinite.  

The other question is do you get credit for the modules you bought with Esprit and then sidegrade to Pro, maybe it works in that capacity. 

I just found this on the e-on knowledge base:

If you get Vue 6 Esprit, plus the 5 additional modules, you'll end up with Pro Studio.
From which you'll be able to upgrade to infinite.

So apparently, by purchasing all of the modules, you do get the benefits of Vue 6 pro, including upgrade paths.

I don't think it turns to Pro since each module has its own serial number.

You might try asking e-on tech support if you get credit for the modules.  That's something I'd be interested in knowing as well because I'm thinking about sidegrading to Pro, too, instead of purchasing the other modules separately.  The sidegrade to Pro from Esprit is $199 USD while the sidegrade to Inf from Esprit is $499.  That's a huge price jump but, from what I can see, you can't paint ecosystems in Pro like you can in Inf.

I've been playing with the Vue6 Inf PLE and I do like being able to actually define my ecosystem placements.  I just don't know if that's going to be the difference between going with Pro or Inf for the sidegrade.  Maybe I'll go with the sidegrade to Pro right now and then sidegrade to Inf later.  It will still br approximately the same amount of $$ just spread out over a little time. 

Quote - I just found this on the e-on knowledge base:

If you get Vue 6 Esprit, plus the 5 additional modules, you'll end up with Pro Studio.
From which you'll be able to upgrade to infinite.

So apparently, by purchasing all of the modules, you do get the benefits of Vue 6 pro, including upgrade paths.

This is interesting since it was posted while I was typing.  This makes it a little more inviting to complete the modules even though I won't be using the Hypervue right away.  That will wait until my partner moves here from Australia and we get our network set up.  Still, having that will cut down on the cost of the sidegrade to Infinite by a pretty penny.

That's what I'm doing too. I already had Lightune from Vue 5 and have so far added Ecosystems and Deep Access and will be adding Botanica and Hypervue as soon as I can afford to. Eventually I will upgrade to Infinite but I'm a long way from exhausting the possibilities of esprit/pro so there is no hurry.

Yes, Thanks, that will save me a bundle.