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Subject: Poll: How Much $$ Have You Spent On Poser Models This Year? All time?


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graphicsguy ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 10:04 AM · edited Wed, 27 November 2024 at 1:55 PM

Here's a great POLL Question for all of you:

About how much do you think you've spent on poser models/characters/everything, this year so far in 2007?

And if you can estimate, about what have you spent lifetime-total, on poser/3d models?

I'm asking because I find it's a lot of fun to collect all these models, but it sure as heck can become an expensive, addictive hobby really fast, if my first 2 weeks using poser (this past 2 weeks - I'm a newbie to poser) are any indication...

I've probably spent about 1k in my first 2 weeks on poser models... they're great.. but I'm probably a bit extreme ... (though artists love me! lol)..  I'll probably scale back and keep it to no more than $50-$100/month for my first year... which is still a lot more than I'd imagined I'd end up spending.

So anyways, can you all let me know, and others, roughly your monthly budget and/or this year/alltime money spent on 3d models?

thx!

-k


Victoria_Lee ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 10:33 AM

This year ... probably about 3k.
Lifetime?  Way too much!

Hugz from Phoenix, USA

Victoria

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Khai ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 10:38 AM

zero. nada. nothing since buying poser 7. all time poser spendin.. about 350 dollars over 7 years...


mrsparky ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 10:51 AM

Average yearly spend $350-500 year on personal content. Plus buying stuff for clients.
A lifetime ? way too much :)

Also don't forget to add in the cost of extra hardware - to run the lastest versions. Thats pricey :)  

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jjroland ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 10:58 AM

If I did the math I would be obligated to tell my husband the truth.  Right now I have plausible denyability on my side and I'd like to keep that , thank you very much.


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graphicsguy ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 11:05 AM · edited Tue, 03 July 2007 at 11:06 AM

Thanks, all --  it's good to see I'm in good company... I was beginning to wonder about myself there for a minute lol... :p

well it's a wonderful way to express oneself artistically; and having just seen rendered characters in movies (shrek etc) and games (xbox), it's great to be able to create wonderful looking characters and animated scenes and the rest of it on one's desktop... great artistic outlet for all of us..!
(though very addictive and expensive, I'm gonna have to some how limit myself... good luck i say.. :0)  (also there's this popular online place w/rendered characters, "second life", though I haven't tried it, because I'd likely spend too much time on it if I got into it..  )

-k


grichter ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 11:24 AM

Way to much. Being a newbee a lot of catching up to do by buying things most of you have probably purchased over the last 3 to 5  or more years.  Wrote a database to track purchases and wishlist items in Filemaker Pro...have 3505.83 in my wishlist and adding things faster then I buy them. :woot: 

I'd be embarrased to admit how much I have spent so far this year. Scary amount. Goal is to storyboard a long fiction story I wrote over the prior year. Based on content I am finding I am having to go back and edit, and change scenes, etc. Like going oh wow, if I add this cool prop, neat accessory, change this characters clothes, does it make the scene better or worse. A lot of what I am finding here drives my imagination to places I never considered taking the text. Which is good.

I enjoy exploring the 3d world and find the whole process so fasinating and fun. So the dollar amount I spend becomes a moot point for the most part. :rolleyes:

OT: I have other expensive hobbies also. But what I find so refreshing is how this community never bashes a single person for asking the most simpliest question. Or how everybody tries to help everybody else. I wish my other hobbies' forums where as refreshing what I find here. That alone causes me want to embrace (and spend more in this arena) then other venues I am involved in.

Gary

"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"


MatrixWorkz ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 11:24 AM

If I told you I'd have to shoot you...... or myself!

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lkendall ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 11:26 AM · edited Tue, 03 July 2007 at 11:38 AM

7/3/07

Happy 4th of July!

**********  ==========      I have spent over $300.00 (US) this year and
**********  ==========      I plan to spend about $200.00 this week.
**********  ==========
====================     I have spent over $3,000.00 on Poser.
====================
====================     LMK

Probably edited for spelling, grammer, punctuation, or typos.


Tyger_purr ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 11:27 AM

I think i average/budget around $25 a week.

that puts me at almost $1,000 this year.

"lifetime" around $5,000

but that is just content it doesn't include software costs. Poser 5, 6, and 7. Shade 7 and 8, paintshop pro 8, 9, 10, and 11, Bryce 5, 5.5, 6, UV mapper pro, CRPro, Clothing converter, Clothing Designer, WardrobeWizard, Shader spider, Glow worm, Particles, PuppetMaster, Universal texture converter, Real Skin shader, Occlusion master, Hexagon, carrara basic, and i'm sure im forgetting something....

then there is subscriptions, Poserworld (life-one time payment), Platnum club, and Passport.

I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, drive fast cars. I dont have children, nor a car payment... gotta spend my money somewhere.  :-)

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leather-guy ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 11:43 AM
Online Now!

This year - $800
Lifetime - $14,000


graphicsguy ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 11:54 AM

-right re subs and software (and hardware too)...  14k sheesh! 

It's a good idea to somehow become a merchant and sell something, or at least try to, and that way everything becomes a tax write off I guess :p

I have to say, it's a great way to storyboard and do animations, to have unlimited creativity.

But I'm very very surprised, in all my exploring all the forums etc out there, that nobody seems to have a repository of pz3 scene files, nor bzh animations, nor anything else beyond the components/parts/chars/props.

Wouldn't folks want to share their scene files and animation files?  That's what I'd like to suggest we all do, somehow... eg "this scene requires (list of characters etc)", download the .pz3 here ...

make sense?

hmm well back on topic, others want to vote on $ spent on characters?  this is interesting to read... I really like the entire idea... and agree w/point that this is a friendly forum, which is a nice change from many out there..

-k


Victoria_Lee ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 12:16 PM

The problem with sharing .pz3 files is that they reference the author's computer setup so if yours is different you'll have a lot of problems loading characters and textures.  That and the fact that they're huge in size.

Hugz from Phoenix, USA

Victoria

Remember, sometimes the dragon wins. Correction: MOST times.


surreality ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 1:04 PM

A frightening amount, is about all I can say about that. "More than I should" is a good answer, too. I've not done the math. The fiance would be fine with it (he has his anime and DVD collection that is taking over half of the living room, after all) but I'm terrified to look at the numbers myself!

-D
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Joe@HFG ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 1:31 PM

This year has sucked on so many levels. So i actually haven't spent a dime in 2007. 2006 was pretty light year as well. I know I bought a scifi outfit from Xurge3D, and I think I also got Poser 6 about 3 months before P7 came out. :rolleyes: To date, I'm probably in the $7000+ neighborhood. But I get to cheat since I'm a 2D graphic artist and a 3D modeler. So if I need something I'm just as likely to build it myself.

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noun, plural mo·nop·o·lies.
1. exclusive control of a commodity or service in a particular market,
or a control that makes possible the manipulation of prices


kobaltkween ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 1:34 PM

i'm with MatrixWorks, though definitely leaning toward myself as the target.  it's definitely past time for me to learn to model, map and texture. this is getting nuts.  especially considering i own hex 2 and haven't opened it.



tivao ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 2:50 PM

I'm a horrible impulse buyer so yeah... WAY too much is firmly in place for me.  I can do some serious damage if I'm in the sudden grips of inspiration.

But $7,986.24... lifetime Rendo, $1,820.02 lifetime for Runtime DNA, $480.49 for 3DC and this a 6-7 year period. This isn't even getting into Daz3d, Poser Pros,  and wherever else. ^^;;; But that's a rough enough idea.


MatrixWorkz ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 2:51 PM

Quote - i'm with MatrixWorks, though definitely leaning toward myself as the target.  it's definitely past time for me to learn to model, map and texture. this is getting nuts.  especially considering i own hex 2 and haven't opened it.

I own Hex 2 and Zbrush 3 so just image how past time it is for me to learn to model! [BANG!]

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stormchaser ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 3:00 PM · edited Tue, 03 July 2007 at 3:09 PM

I've spent a few hundred in my 18 months in Poser land, it might even have reached a thousand, & I'm talking pounds! I have calmed myself down the last four of five months though, I only buy what I really need now. Mind you, the latest cool character texture suddenly becomes a 'need' when it really isn't!
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Arvanor ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 3:12 PM

This year? About 4000$ i think. Lifetime? Better don't make me think about it........

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wakingdreams ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 3:27 PM

So far about $1000 canadian. And my wishlist is still fairly full O.o.


PXP ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 3:43 PM

Well I am certainly in good crazy company and that makes me feel better. I have spent 400 bucks in the last month alone on V4 clothing, characters, hair and some props. Over the last three years - I am not going to say perhaps I need to see a shrink! But with artists such as Orion1167, billy-t, outoftouch, danae and others its understandable they nearly always get it right ;)


kobaltkween ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 4:35 PM

ok, this thread is inspiring me to implement and keep to the policy i've always known was best.  don't buy anything  but base figures and morphs unless it's necessary for an image in production.  it always seems like it's cheaper to buy when it's 50% off, but really, i end up spending tons and using little. 



jan_scrapper ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 4:54 PM

Since I began in 9/05, around $10,000.  This year, probably $1,500...Last month...$100....

I have worked at a job for 21 years in Accounting.  It helps with the extras, my car note, food and my Poser habit...

HOWEVER, hubby and I have decided to have a new home built and we are closing on it 7/26/07 and have not sold the house we live it yet.  He has VERY nicely told me I have to be a little more thrifty. 

My spending must go way down, which it has.  Every holiday, instead of presents, I ask for Gift Certificates. My Renderosity Gift Certificates are used up.   I am below $200 at Content Paradise which sells products from many stores.  However, my birthday is in November and Christmas is far away.  No gift certficates for awhile.

I DO smoke, however my husband doesn't and we don't go on vacations because my boss will not let me be gone for more than a couple of days.  We don't go clubbin'....I like to go to bed at 9 or 10, then get up around 3 am and see what is happening in Poserland.  

I am 51 and Larry is 56, he loves sports and has season tickets to the Houston Texans.  He has his sports hobbies, collections, etc.  

Poser or 3d art has given me a calm place to be away from the hustle and bustle of Houston, seeing the sadness of the homeless on my way to and from work, the harsh words my boss throws at me and everyone here, the mean people on the freeway...

To be able to make art has been therapy for me....

My only regret is that I bought things I will never use and I cannot make the clothes I want.

I hope one day there will be a really good software that is only for clothes...everyday clothes....Clothes for Mill Baby and Kiki and Kit.  And the little toon characters.

One of my favoriate artist of children is Ruth Morehead.  I have the little children, but I cannot make the clothes.  I can take apart clothing in Poser and use a sleeve here and a ruffle there, however that is very difficult.

I am thinking of purchasing Clothing Creator by Phil C.

On a roll here...sorry!!!


Tashar59 ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 6:58 PM

Not much this year, Maybe an average of $25 a month. I model and texture most of my own stuff now. The odd sale but I just can't justify buying something I can make myself.

But I would hate to add all the years together, it's in the thousands.


SamTherapy ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 7:14 PM

$120.00

Actual expenditure of my own - $20.00 because Ilona bought me the V4.1 Pro Bundle.

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pakled ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 9:11 PM

zip
zilch
bupkis
nada
keine
zero
nichevaw
rien

on the other hand, I'm tryingto make my own, slowly and Shirley..;)

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pjz99 ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 9:25 PM · edited Tue, 03 July 2007 at 9:28 PM

Between $2,000 and $3000.  And that's not counting software, much of which I'll probably never use.
cobaltdream:

Quote - ok, this thread is inspiring me to implement and keep to the policy i've always known was best.  don't buy anything  but base figures and morphs unless it's necessary for an image in production. 

That is excellent advice, and everyone should follow it (including me).

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Joe@HFG ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 9:52 PM

Attached Link: My first purchase for Poser.

Ok... wanna get scared? I remember the first thing I bought for Poser. The account says I got it 09/25/01, but I know that's wrong because I bought it while I was making an x-rated graphic adventure in LA, and that was in early 2000. I guess when they redid the store at some point and just stuck the date on there. This was back when you signed up for the Zygote mailing list to get freebies. This was back when you had to make morphs by editing an OBJ as a text file and you could only create a figure by writing a PHI file and running it through PHI builder. Man have we come a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong way!

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or a control that makes possible the manipulation of prices


Niles ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 10:01 PM

Less and less each year... more selective on what I buy and have bought nothing for Vic4. I have here and the morphs, just do not want to spend more money on a new female model, (but I do download and use free items for Vic4).


ockham ( ) posted Tue, 03 July 2007 at 11:14 PM

Ditto Beryld.  About $25 a month for things that I either can't build for
myself or can't justify the time to build.  Which basically means
flowers and trees these days, for some reason!

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wildessence ( ) posted Wed, 04 July 2007 at 12:00 AM

:blink: wow! ok I am scared! LOL let's see tried to install it on my comp and didn't have enough room for the installation, Now I am reading this... taps calculator Haven't installed it and already looking at a new computer + downloads.... = wow! I need a 3rd job!  lol


Acadia ( ) posted Wed, 04 July 2007 at 12:39 AM

Not as much as I have in past years.  I had computer issues for the first few months of the year and ended up having to buy a new computer which grossly ate into my budget!

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able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



aeilkema ( ) posted Wed, 04 July 2007 at 2:13 AM

On average I'm spending about $10 in a month. I mainly buy items that are for sale and items I know I'll end up using. I can resist the urge to buy everything that looks cool, most of it I will never use anyway.

Looking to the various amounts given and then looking at the galleries I wonder where the money spent goes? What does everyone do with the stuff they buy, most of the galleries do not reflect the amount of money spent.

I'm using Poser content for my games www.gamefun4u.nl and with the money I make from the games, I can easily cover the expenses made. I also do create comics and other items for a non-for-profit organization www.mercypublishers.nl and they pay for all of the items.

Using Poser (content & software) doesn't cost me a thing, I never buy Poser items for my own use and I don't use Poser for fun. Poser isn't my hobby or interest at all, I wouldn't even enjoy using it for making renders for myself, it's way to expensive to have it just for fun. For me it's a tool to help me in my work, if I wouldn't use it for work, I wouldn't use it at all, I've got plenty of other interests. I do enjoy creating game assests and comics with Poser, it get's the job done quick and efficient, but for my own comics I rather use a plain old pencil and paper.

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
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Cage ( ) posted Wed, 04 July 2007 at 2:23 AM

Nothing at all, since 2002.  My big year was 2000, when I bought Vicky 1, her clothing set, and Jim Burton's hair.  Money's been tight for some time now, so I don't even visit the countless stores and shops which sell Poser goodies.  Maybe by the time Poser reaches version 10, I'll be buying stuff again....

Not having money to throw around on things kind of motivates one to make the most of what you have available.  Personally, I think we're becoming over-saturated with Poser marketplaces.  But I'm also a loony.  :-P

 

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vincebagna ( ) posted Wed, 04 July 2007 at 2:42 AM

Wow, don't make me think about that!

Since the day i bought Poser6, i never stopped buy something there and there... And finally i stopped a day. But bought again the day after, then stopped again. But bought again the day after...

Now i'm becoming less compulsive buyer. I planned to buy a new computer months ago, but money is as fluid as water... :( So i'm waiting.

Fo now, i tend to buy only character textures. I'm trying to model my own clothes. Someday, perhaps i would be able to look at a splendid cloth on sale and say "Hé, i can do that myself!", openning Hex, model my way, rig it, and conform. Someday perhaps... :P

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MistDragon ( ) posted Wed, 04 July 2007 at 8:19 AM

This year?  Around $80.00 so far.

Last year?  $380.00.

Alltime?

shrugs $2,400.  I added up all of my purchases (160) and times'd it by the average price per sale ($15.00) to wager a guess.

Now, this is Renderosity alone.  This does not include purchases at DAZ, the software itself, etc...

MISTDRAGON


tebop ( ) posted Wed, 04 July 2007 at 8:58 AM

I think about 200 dollars. BUT!!! I'm over it for good. I'm not using poser for rendering anymore. Just for reference for real drawing so...i don't need anything anymore. I doubt it you guys will do what i did( stop using poser for rendering), but it sure would save you money:)


BillyGoat ( ) posted Wed, 04 July 2007 at 9:50 AM

Combined (RO,Daz,RDNA) about $6,000 from 1998 to present. And about $30 a month.
Not counting 'poser enabled' software.


SoCalRoberta ( ) posted Wed, 04 July 2007 at 11:59 AM

From everywhere, or just Rendo? A couple of thousand dollars this year alone. Since I started? I SO do not want to even think about how much. Suffice it to say that I still have over 100G installed, and this is after several major clean outs.


Conniekat8 ( ) posted Wed, 04 July 2007 at 12:11 PM

Couple hundred a month, on content only, especially in last 2 years.
But have been doing and buying things 3D since early 1990's. Wouldn't know where to begin adding it all up. Six figures lifetime expenditure would not surprize me at all.
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Rainfeather ( ) posted Wed, 04 July 2007 at 11:43 PM

i'm scared to look but i'd say around the ballpark of a thousand or so....gosh, what an addiction. we should open up a poser rehab!!!


Conniekat8 ( ) posted Thu, 05 July 2007 at 12:07 AM

Rehab?  NOOOOooo.....
I like my 'condition' just the way it is!!!  ;)

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graphicsguy ( ) posted Thu, 05 July 2007 at 12:07 AM

Yeah I'm up to now $1200+ in my first 2 weeks of poser use alone... sheesh!  But I've got most of the important stuff, eg all the bases, lots of great hair, tons of work here... but I can tell this can be an endless kind of thing, so setting boundaries is important... it's a lot of fun, building virtual people and worlds!

-k


Gini ( ) posted Thu, 05 July 2007 at 8:09 AM

$350 this year so far, been purchasing here since Sept 2002- $2000 total. And probably that much at Daz as well. Not much at other sites, maybe another $500 all together. So jeez, $4500 in 3 years just on 3D models !!!!!!! Could buy myself the new MacPro laptop I want for that much if I'd saved it instead. I am definately NOT going to add up the costs of the various softwares I have also bought in the same amount of time. I think my spending will lessen considerably now I have had the courage to add it all up. $20 and $30 there never seems like much at the time does it ! A good thing I don't answer to anyone about my credit card bills ; ) And now I feel so guilty I'll probably take my kids out shopping this weekend and my husband out to to dinner tonight. And delete my entire wish list here. well most of it anyway.

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ockham ( ) posted Thu, 05 July 2007 at 2:25 PM

@Rainfeather:  Sssshhhhhhh!!!!  Don't use the word "addiction"!  The
AMA and APA will catch wind of it and include Poser Addiction Syndrome
in the next edition of their Desk Reference.  Then the Addiction Gestapo
will start running stings to locate Poser Addicts, and lock us up for our own good.

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graphicsguy ( ) posted Thu, 05 July 2007 at 7:13 PM

Great to hear everyone's responses...

I will also extend my personal congratulations to all of you, for investing in poser related characters and sets and people.

Because I truly believe that the beauty that we can create with that which we have acquired is one of the good things we can do, as people... like an artist getting new brushes, better canvases, better paints... to ADD something of beauty to the world.  

Spening money on poser models is an innocent, much better use of money than many spend on, for example alcohol or bad habits...  this is something to help us all be > creative < which is to be admired, and "it's ok"...

So, just a note that I was curious as to whether I'm alone in my enthusiasm for investing large sums in building my library of characters, sets, models and accessories, and it sounds like I'm in excellent company with everyone here.

To creativity!

-k


pjz99 ( ) posted Thu, 05 July 2007 at 7:39 PM

We won't talk about how much money I spent on software.  The content is bad enough.

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RorrKonn ( ) posted Sat, 07 July 2007 at 3:10 AM

A quarterly budget for 3D is advisable.

 

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goldie ( ) posted Sat, 07 July 2007 at 2:08 PM

if i were to add up all my expenditures for poser, i probably would slit my wrists upon seeing the total...but if i were to venture a guess>>>probably a nice sports car or a down payment on a house...this is truly a sickness :D


kalon ( ) posted Sat, 07 July 2007 at 3:39 PM

How much have I spent on Poser?

None of your business!

How am I suposed to remain in blissful deniability when this damned thread won't sink to oblivion where it belongs!

:tongue2:

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