Well I'm sure you guys remember that I was in a car wreck a few months ago.

The guy who hit me was in court today and got well and truly screwed by our magistrates.
The fined him £150 plus costs - a total of £225 ($450) AND they took his driving license away!!!!!!!

To get his license back he has to apply for a driving test again and pass before he can go back on the road. He now has a criminal record and his car insurance will cost him about half a planet. Not to mention that he had to buy a replacement car.

My son and I plus our wives were in court to hear the case and the magistrates were told of the fact and we think that was why he got a good seeing too.

FANTASTIC RESULT!!!

Now we just have to wait to go to court again to sue the little sh*t. We haven't finished with him yet.

Sueing him again? a 2nd time? I'm counting: £150 + £225 + a new car + losing driverslicense + criminal record. Which part did they not charge him on yet then?

Quote - Sueing him again? a 2nd time? I'm counting: £150 + £225 + a new car + losing driverslicense + criminal record. Which part did they not charge him on yet then?

The first court appearance will have been for the criminal proceedings, the next one will be a civil hearing to sort out the compensation from the insurance company.

Cutting his goolies off seems much more fun, and good for the gene pool, too, IMHO!! :D

Quote - > Quote - Sueing him again? a 2nd time? I'm counting: £150 + £225 + a new car + losing driverslicense + criminal record. Which part did they not charge him on yet then?

The first court appearance will have been for the criminal proceedings, the next one will be a civil hearing to sort out the compensation from the insurance company.

damn... i hope for that kid he has some rich parents :-/
If i imagine it from my own perspective...

• £150, i can afford that.
• another £225, i can afford that, but it would defenitely hurt my wallet.
• losing my drivers license, ouch, that would be painful if i had one because its expensive to get it back, that should get to him...
• a new car... cripples my finances for at least 3 years, assuming a decent raise next year and the year after and would put my moving out plans 2 or 3 years into the future as a result. Seriously tough one there...

Then to get the insurance company after me as well?? the people that are experts at paying as little as they can while squeezing as much outta the rest as they can? scary... very scary considering the financial blow of the points mentioned above...

Good stuff Bryster! I hope it will make him think before getting behind the wheel again. I know it doesnt change what happened but it would make you feel a bit better.

Excellent Bryster! Best wishes to you! What else can he be sued on? Well, being stupid should be high on the list. Bryster I'm happy it's all turning for you. So, in England they're called magistrates while here in the USA they're called judges...do they still ware wigs?.

Forget the courts Bryster. Stick him in the comfy chair for a couple of days with extra throw pillows, a couple of doilies, a comfort blanket and the stay sharp knives. The silk covered handcuffs (Red) with the lace should bump him over the edge.

I don't know this case at all... I just wonder why you're so vengeful?
Does he deserve it?

Well basically the kid tried to lie and get outta it blaming the accident on bryster while actually the kid was the one being irresponsible.
Still i kind of agree about the vengefulness.. dunno how young the kid is exactly or how rich his parents are, but considering the costs plus losing drivers lisence and mainly the part of having to pay for a new car... if the kid had been me it would defenitely cost me a few years of financial crippledness. Basically slowing down my life's plan a few years... I'd consider it a huge impact on my life so far if it was me in the kids shoes.

I´ll just say that I´m glad for your sake, no matter if vengeance is your motif. If you feel good is the main thing for me.

That's the way to go Chris...............sue the pants off the guy.

For you who are not aware of the legal system in this country, Chris was in a crash, and the stupid wazak that was driving the other car tried to plead it wasn't his fault, even when it obviously was.

Chris drives a "motability car"...this means that Chris is registered disabled. Chris is also well over the age when he has to worry about what age he is..........the other driver was a kid.

In the UK at the moment it seems you mustn't penalise the young yobbos too much, because it might traumatise them, and set them on a life of crime.

I say B******T.....................If you don't punish these guys now the they will just keep on doing the same thing.

However in the UK just lately the b****Y law is an ass. Whereas over in the US this guy would have been banged up, here he gets a fine and an ASBO. That stands for anti-social behavioural order. Basically he has been told...don't do that again, if you do we will take you to court.

Big deal

Chris and his son both suffered significant injuries.

So the guy got a few quid fine, well Ok a few hundred quid, but he probably doesn't work anyway, amd therefore his fine will be paid from the benefits he gets from the state. Also I seem to remember he was not insured, so Chris cannot get compensation from his insurance company.

So he has to sue for Trauma, injuries sustained and all the rest of the stuff.

So I say it again Chris........SUE the pants off the guy.....................Please.

Just want to add, as an edit , that the young yob will probably be driving around again already, in a stolen car with no insurance............so somebody else will have to go through the same thing.

You might guess that just this same thing has happened to a friend of mine, only in this case the driver of the other car was an asylum seeker,,,,,,,,,,,,same rules apply.

Quote - Well basically the kid tried to lie and get outta it blaming the accident on bryster while actually the kid was the one being irresponsible.
Still i kind of agree about the vengefulness.. dunno how young the kid is exactly or how rich his parents are, but considering the costs plus losing drivers lisence and mainly the part of having to pay for a new car... if the kid had been me it would defenitely cost me a few years of financial crippledness. Basically slowing down my life's plan a few years... I'd consider it a huge impact on my life so far if it was me in the kids shoes.

Point is Ray, from what I know of you, you wouldn't have behaved in the same manner as this kid, that was not needed and part of what made things worse for Chris.

Ooooh I see... so that kind of story... I thought there might be something like that happened. Thanks Chohole and now it's easy to agree: Sue again!!!

Well it seems I gotta clear up a few points.
In the local justice system we have a Magistrates Court run by......you guessed it.....Magistrates - 3 Guys/Gals who decide between them who's guilty etc. This is the court that deals with guys getting drunk and a bit naughty, shoplifters, minor drug offenses, traffic violations like speeding and parking offences and such.

Go up one level and we get Crown Court. This is more serious and we get to meet Judges who deal with serious robbery, firearms & knife offences, the odd murder...............etc.

Then we get the High Court and quite literally the Big Wigs (Yup Quest! They still wear wigs).....highpowered Judges for cases like mass murder, treason, big fraud cases, using apps other than Bryce.......

So back to the case in hand,

He is 19 and what we call a 'boy-racer'. A kid with a new driving license who drives a small but powerful car recklessly  and hopes he doesn't actually kill someone but if he does, hopes he doesn't get caught.

Now the car was his. He was insured. And he worked for his dad. He wasn't legally drunk. But he had been out on a binge for the entire weekend.
He slammed into me while I was at a standstill at 50mph, putting me and my son in hospital.

nruddock is right.  This was the case that dealt with the criminal offense of 'driving without due care & attention'.  I had no part in this case other than that I was permitted to observe the proceedings along with my son and our wives. However, the court was informed of our presence and therefore understood that we (the victims) were taking the matter very seriously in deed. This generally helps the case for the prosecution because if we didn't turn up everyone would think that we couldn't care less.

The next phase is the bit where we sue him through his insurance company. In other words, my insurance sues his insurance at no cost to me. The only question is 'how much are they willing to fork out for my trauma, injuries damages ect.

The fact that he has been tried as a criminal adds to the weight of my case against him.
However, from the moment he hit my car it was out of my hands. Being a Motability driver the police have to step in.  From then on he was on a hiding to nothing. 

Why am I so vengeful?
Chohole said it for me. I am disabled. So being hit from behind at 50mph by a kid who didn't even hit the brakes doesn't do my health any good. My son was also injured and is still having problems. Also that day, my grandson was offered an afternoon out with his dad and grandpa riding in grandpa's new car. Well someone on high was looking out for him 'cos he said that he's rather stay at home with mom. He's never ever done that before.

My son and I ended up in the hospital, myself having to be backboarded out of my car by the fire and ambulance guys (I love you long-time).....you do the math.

And yeh...the kid tried to tell Daddy that I was rolling back down the hill - I was driving up the hill - in an car with an automatic gear box, but was stationary at the time of impact -, and, that he didn't see me on a clear day in perfect driving conditions.

This was his second crash in a year. If I didn't do my best to get him off the road he would have killed someone - probably still will if he passes another driving test.

He ruined my life for the last 4 months and I'm still trying to put the whole sequence of events into perspective. 

I really appreciate you guys and all your thoughts. I'm always amazed at the support this forum gives to each other. Thanks. You're all worth your weight in gold.

On a lighter note, I kept asking myself 'what did I do wrong?' a bit like the only guy who survives an airplane crash asking why was he the only one?

Then I remembered asking the cop who took my statement at the hospital the same question.
He said, " You got out of bed this morning..."

Stupid question: 
Say do your legal guys still have to wear wigs?

...

It seems as though you've had your share of bad luck - almost as though your Dogma got run over by your Karma ... 

Anyrate I hope you're feeling better!
-TJ 

maybe all of this wil teach him a lesson.. great idea.
maybe all of this will teach other kids around your town a lesson.. ..excellent idea.
Little me would opt for the being nice to him while you sueing him again...a double edged sword. he won't know what to think then....

cheers

St*upid question: 
Say do your legal guys still have to wear wigs?

BM: Not a stupid question at all. Yes they fo wear wigs, but only in the higher courts where the more serious crimes etc are processed.

Erosiaart: Never mind being nice to him. Come and be nice to me! My phone number is......er.....it's around here somewhere.....drat.....now where did I put it?

:tongue2:  at Thebryster.....  :biggrin:

Bryster, you old rake... Stop making promises the missus won't let you keep! 
erosiaart You could be nice to me however, I'm single!

Less of the 'old' you young whippersnapper!

Bryster:

"Old and in the way 
that's what I hear them say
they used to head the words he said
but that was yesterday ..." 

• From 'Old and In the Way' by the band , 'Old and in the Way' (Jerry Garcia, Vassar Clements, David Grisiman  and some other old guy) .

tsk, tsk. MEN!! :tongue1:

:woot:

oh..TheBryster.. dearest, my luv, have you gone to Harrod's lately? Tiffany has this huge platinum diamond necklace ..maybe you can get me that out of the money you get from suing him? :or I'll settle for that FL, D  (that's the best you can get) diamond platinum necklace I saw in Madras last month think it was only around thirty thousand pounds for it....had about 100 1 carat diamonds and a couple 2 carat ones. ONLY.

tongue1:tongue1:tongue1:tongue1:

great news Bryster, yes sue the pants off him but please make sure he paid for them or you could be done for handling and receiving stollen goods

Over her in Australia we have a law now that if some young hoon gets caught hooning around in their car 3 times it gets taken off them and inpounded or worse crushed and delivered to their house..
I have seen two news reports now where the car was crushed..this only happens if they get caught doing burn outs, racing or anything the law deems dangerous to others.

Erosiaart: Had a chat with Mr Al Fyad today. He's a bit busy with a legal case atm but sez I can pop round anytime and pick up a sparkler or two. :lol:

TheBryster  :woot:

*Erosiaart: Had a chat with Mr Al Fyad today. He's a bit busy with a legal case atm but sez I can pop round anytime and pick up a sparkler or two...........

..........after all, we gotta have fireworks for November 5th !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :lol:

In the words of  whoever.. " I shall ignore that, and ignore you, for the two are too minor in the scheme of life"  pooh pooh  (and erosiaart turns up her nose and walks away in her new gold plated rolls royce limo, while her handsone charming prince grins back at TheBryster, and gently places the fur rug on his darling  beloved's knee!

:tongue1: :tongue1: :tongue1: :lol::lol::lol::lol:

enuff!!  we sound a bit weird now.. go sue the pants off that chap now!!!

Oh man, I misspelled heed !!!

B-Man:
Let loose the dogs of war ! ! ! . . .. something about sueing and pants . 

. . . but then too (thoughtfully) I really like the idea of crushing his car and putting it in his front yard  - perhaps if you painted the crushed vehicle pink and left a little note on it that reads: " NEVER MESS WITH WENDY TESTERBERGER ! ! ! ! ! !" (If that doesn't confuse and scare him nothing will.)

...  **erosiaart  **is right too: 'there are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamed of in your philosophy . . ."  What I mean by that is that Ron Hubbard in the long ago once wrote that you should keep out of courts if you can as they will only steal your money and your time and any monetary gain you might realize from the lawsuit would only go to pay off the lawyers.

   
-TJ ("Revenge is a dish best served cold" - either from 'The Bible' or 'Wrath of Khan' (not sure which.))
 

What I mean by that is that Ron Hubbard in the long ago once wrote that you should keep out of courts if you can as they will only steal your money and your time and any monetary gain you might realize from the lawsuit would only go to pay off the lawyers.

From what I know about Ron Hubbard, he would steal your money! 

Are you trying to say that he was black hole of emotional greed?

As much as I hate to say it , i think the only way to make him stop and think of his actions is to sue him and to crush the car as well! I know the money doesn't help take away what happened but it may give a sense of justice (not revenge bryster dear, that is for mean nasty heretics!!) for the pain and suffering.

Hey CrazyDawg, didn't realise you were from downunder as well. G'day mate! :thumbupboth:

("Revenge is a dish best served cold" - either from 'The Bible' or 'Wrath of Khan' (not sure which.))

Probably a biblical chef who's fire went out!! :lol:

Jen

g'day Boofy...

Wrath of Khan.
"Revenge is a dish best served cold, and it is very cold in space."

Latest news - He had to sell the car he bought to replace the one he crashed into mine. His insurance would cost him a week's wages...................every week!

Quote - either from 'The Bible' or 'Wrath of Khan' (not sure which.))

Are the 2 interchangeable in most circumstances :biggrin:

*Latest news - He had to sell the car he bought to replace the one he crashed into mine. His insurance would cost him a week's wages...................every week! 

What a shame.....:rolleyes:

Gog: 
according to the guys in South Park it's six of one half dozen of the other 

Bryster:
...and I thought $60.00 a month was expensive.

Chris,

Old is not an insult. Every year I live I see more enemies laid out in the dust behind me. They're gone and I'm still here doing just what I want. Unlike the mercenary Miss erosiaart most young girls blush and titter shyly when I speak, while their mothers look on smiling knowingly. Young men step out of my way. 

When I mentioned a student friend of my daughter was interning at work she said, “Yes he wanted to ask you about me, but he felt you were too intimidating." Salt-and-pepper haired me, intimidating? Six foot four glowering who can still spin his full grown daughters around in the air, intimidating? Geezer who looks down an inch into Kevin Sorbo’s eyes when he shakes hands, intimidating? I realized I had slowly become one of the silverback alpha males of our tribe.

You managed to smack down another young punk who sought to run around and do whatever he wanted. You went to court because your presence would have influence over the decision. Not your words or actions so much as you watching. I’m here, I looking, now do the right thing. It’s your age that earned you that respect. Revel in every gray hair of it!

 Not sure what part of "How to Win Friends and Influence People" that's from . . . 

almost 57 and I can still roof and keep up with the guys half my age most of the time so the point on age is valid.  

I've tried to remember these words and the ironic quality of Brando's recital of them in the  OLD movie "Apocolypse Now"    

IF ### If you can keep your head when all about you  
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream-and not make dreams your master;
If you can think-and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings-nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And-which is more-you'll be a Man, my son!
 - Rudyard Kipling