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Subject: P5 Conform Clothing Doesn't Completely Cover Figures. Help!


lunchworks ( ) posted Sun, 08 June 2008 at 4:41 AM · edited Thu, 19 September 2024 at 8:23 AM

I've always had trouble with P5 Conforming Clothing how it never completely covers the body.  I has parts of the figure sticking through certain parts and gets away from the material naturally laying over the figure.  Is there a way to get it to work properly?  Thanks! 


estherau ( ) posted Sun, 08 June 2008 at 5:09 AM

 well first make sure the clothing is designed for the particular figure.  Then make sure that if you have morphed the figure than you have to be able to morph the clothes to match.  If you can't morph the clothes then they won't fit.  
When I first started poser, I thought conform meant the clothes would match the poser person Iconformed them to but it doesn't.  All conform means is that they move with the poser person when you re-pose him or her.
You can make various parts of your poser person invisible in the heirachy editor. I think it is in windows part of poser top sort of to the left a bit.
Now if the clothes are designed for the poser person and still problematic, if you ahve poser 7 you can use morphing brush. oh I see you have poser 5 - well it's magnets then.  You can by a set of magnets here from William The Bloody in the MP.
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lesbentley ( ) posted Sun, 08 June 2008 at 2:57 PM · edited Sun, 08 June 2008 at 2:59 PM

Yep, conforming clothing seldom lives up to expectations. If a body part is completely covered by the clothing, you can hide that part to stop poke-through. Otherwise attach a magnet to the offending part of the character, and pull it in away from the clothing. Alternatively, create a magnet on the clothing and pull it out away from the character. The Mag Zone and the area it covers is probably the most important thing when using magnets.


santicor ( ) posted Tue, 22 July 2008 at 9:24 PM

anyone know why when i place a piece of clothing designed for V4  onto the V4 figure,  it jumps right onto her nicely,  but then when i have theclothing item selected, and go to Figure - Conform To......

my dropdown choices  only say "none"  I do not see V4  in the choices.




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flibbits ( ) posted Tue, 22 July 2008 at 10:17 PM

Once the clothing is conformed, the character to which it is conformed does not appear in the drop down list.



santicor ( ) posted Wed, 23 July 2008 at 8:46 AM

Yes, but the clothing is not conformed.

  1. i loaded V4.2 figure
  2. i loaded skirt for V4.2
  3. V.4s thighs show thru front of skirt
  4. i made sure the skirt was the selected object
  5. i went to Figure menu
  6. clicked Conform To....
  7. drop down options are not populated, i cannot see choice for Victoria.  Only shows  "none"

is it a problem with the design of the clothing?  Or am i missing something

Thanks




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santicor ( ) posted Wed, 23 July 2008 at 8:49 AM

The only thing I can think of,  if it is not a faulty piece of clothing, is that the conform to drop down sources the library (rather than the scene)  in order to supply  my conform to choices.....and maybe I have V4 or her clothes in the wrong part of the directory.

This is a dumb uneducated guess  and i bet that's not it.




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Acadia ( ) posted Wed, 23 July 2008 at 8:54 AM

There are 3 types of clothing:

Dynamic:  This is clothing that you use inside the Cloth room. It takes longer to work with and there is a bit of a learning curve, but it's not too bad, but the results are more appealing in that the clothing actually looks more natural instead of "posed and stiff".  I have included information about this type of clothing further down.

Confroming- Non Morphing:  This is clothing that you conform to a figure. The clothing is made to fit the base figure.  If you change the shape of the figure you will also have to refit the clothing, which isn't always easy if there aren't any corresponding body morphs in the clothing.  Plus posing a character in positions where they are not nearly upright is difficult.  But many prefer this type of clothing over dynamic.

Conforming-Morphing: This is the same as conforming-non morphing, only there are morph dials that you can turn that have corresponding body morphs for easier fitting.  This is the preferred type of conforming clothing because it's easier to fit. To fit this type of clothing, select the body part of the outfit IE: hip, thigh, chest, arm, collar etc, and look in the parameter dials for morph dials that you can change to help fit the clothing.  Unfortunately sometimes even with morph dials, if you have morphed the figure a great deal, it's still not very easy to fit the clothing.

Using a clothing item on a figure that it is meant to be used on, after you have added morphs and adjusted the shape of the body,  can be problematic because the clothes are made for the default figure shape and not the new morphed up shape. So the clothing no longer fits and you get parts of the body showing through the clothing after you add morphs and change the shape of the body.

There are programs that can help fit clothing from one figure to another, or even from the same figure to one that has been "morphed up" using their morph packages.

The Tailor, which can be bought here:
http://www.daz3d.com/i.x/shop/itemdetails/-/?item=3679&_m=d

Wardrobe Wizard (I use this one and it's great). It can be purchased from PhilC's site here:
http://www.philc.net/WardrobeWizard.htm

Clothes Converter, which can be bought here:
http://www.daz3d.com/shop.php?op=itemdetails&item=3069&cat=131

There is also another one, I think by EvilInnocence, called "Cross Dresser". 
http://www.evilinnocence.com/xd/

Dynamic Clothing (more information):

A nice thing about dynamic clothing is that you can easily use clothing on various figures.Here are some tutorials on how to use dynamic clothing in the cloth room:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2665209

http://www.philc.net/CC_sampleVideo.htm

http://www.poserfashion.net/howvic3dress1.htm

http://drgeep.com/p5/cr/cr.htm

Here are some links to some great FREE dynamic clothing:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/index.php?username=mapps

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/index.php?username=svdl

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/index.php?username=Stegy

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/index.php?username=carib98

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/index.php?username=teyikung

It's also possible to make conforming clothing into dynamic clothing:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/tutorial/index.php?tutorial_id=868

And it's possible to take a conforming outfit and work with it in the cloth room so that parts of it act dynamic.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2517340&page=1

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LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Wed, 23 July 2008 at 11:58 AM

Quote - anyone know why when i place a piece of clothing designed for V4  onto the V4 figure,  it jumps right onto her nicely,  but then when i have theclothing item selected, and go to Figure - Conform To......

my dropdown choices  only say "none"  I do not see V4  in the choices.

Make sure it's a piece of conforming and not dynamic clothing. Dynamic clothing will not give you any options in the conform to menu.


AnAardvark ( ) posted Wed, 23 July 2008 at 1:20 PM

Quote - Yes, but the clothing is not conformed.

  1. i loaded V4.2 figure
  2. i loaded skirt for V4.2
  3. V.4s thighs show thru front of skirt
  4. i made sure the skirt was the selected object
  5. i went to Figure menu
  6. clicked Conform To....
  7. drop down options are not populated, i cannot see choice for Victoria.  Only shows  "none"

is it a problem with the design of the clothing?  Or am i missing something

Thanks

The default pose for V4 is not actually a zeroed pose, instead it is with slightly bent legs. Most skirts are designed to fit in the zeroed pose. To get the zeroed pose, turn off IK, open the joint editor, pick some part of V4, and click on "zero figure". She will now be standing straight up. At this point, the skirt should look like it fits. The problem with skirts (as opposed to pants), is that rather than having left and right thighs, they usually have a single "hip" part. They basically require some work to get them to fit a figure with bent legs. Some skirts have morphs. For example, the DAZ morphing fantasy dress has morphs for adjusting to left leg forward, right leg forward etc. (At least, I remember it does.) Most of Aery Souls clothes have plenty of these movement morphs. Other clothes (which may have movement morphs) have handles -- these look like cubes or cones in preview. You can move them about and they drag that portion of the skirt. I personally find it easiest to select them and then use the properties to tweak their movement (typically they can bend, twist etc.) So if your figure has her left leg forward, you might choose the "right thigh" handle and bend it, and then have to tweak the "front" or "back" handles.


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