That's a cool model, have fun rigging that though :) I can see you're going to want a lot of extra bones you wouldn't need in other situations, for each and every wattle.  Needs a bit more flab in the thighs though imo.

That's pretty good!
I think I'd have named him Sumo Brad though. ;-)

@pjz99: I think it's going to be rough :) Trying now to figure out a rigg on paper, one good thing though is he can't really bend forward much in the waist or chest, makes it a little easier.

@MikeJ:  Sumo Brad...I like it!

He's fun to work with :)

Cheers,

Mike.

I NEVER saw anyone with a DOUBLE BELLY!  Double chin, yes, but not the otherwise.  Being on public assistance, I'm on a high carb, low protein diet. I get free bread where I live, but protein costs money. I'm not on food stamps yet (damned bozos) but once my diet gets straightened out, I can avoid looking like Rikishi, much less SUPER-SIZED BRAD!

His super-power is just falling on people.

Seriously, there should be a crease line at the navel, not above it. Makes him look like a mutant,IMO.

for a sec, I thought it said fat *broad...*and the man-boobs had me going for another sec...;)

 I agree with Joelgaine. The crease should be at navel-level.

Then again.. Women divide at that point. Not sure about men. They just tend to get one large potbelly ;)

Don't ask me how I know.

Anyway he looks awesome! I love that more and more "non-model" people are coming for Poser!

I think you're right that crease just don't look right.   Well easy to fix :)  I'm gonna put in a navel too.

I got an idea worked out for the rig.  For all the jiggles I may just have to learn how to rig magnets :lol:  Been putting it off.

Yes, there are too many Poser people already, got to branch out and do something besides perfect  characters.

Anyone out there ever read Heliconia spring, summer, fall and winter? There was a creature in those books called a phagor, which had backward jointed knees and looked something like a minotuar with long white fur. I've been working on some sketches for a similar character. Might be interesting to build.

Quote -  I agree with Joelgaine. The crease should be at navel-level.

Then again.. Women divide at that point. Not sure about men. They just tend to get one large potbelly ;)

Don't ask me how I know.

Anyway he looks awesome! I love that more and more "non-model" people are coming for Poser!

And just HOW do you know, TG?  LOL

Cool model! He would also be a great bouddha.

Very nice!

best regards,

Bopper.

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And just HOW do you know, TG?  LOL

OMG! Of all threads here.. you should find THIS! Well.. I thought I'd promised you not to tell.. but ok.. from that picture you know.. the one you sent me of you in the mankini.

Mike--Actually magnets can be fun.  First, download the mirror magnets by lesbently and go wild. I do loads of morphs with magnets.  You can save those as morphs using the OBJECT menu on the menu bar. Click the affected body part and click save Morph, and put in a name. Simple as that.

@ Trekkiegrrrl--TO MUCH INFORMATION! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Quote - the one you sent me of you in the mankini.

Should I be afraid?! 

Men generally develop a crease earlier in the pot belly development cycle. Some of it comes from cinching up the belt too tight, because the shape 'causes our trousers to slip down. So, the crease should be at belt height. If you sketch (on paper) some clothes over a rendering of him, that should show about where the crease would naturally fall.

He looks great, potential crease-location issues notwithstanding. Rigging him should be quite an adventure. But I trust if anyone can do it in Poser, it's you.

Is that a brand-new mesh or a modification of the existing Brad? Also, getting this to render nicely in Poser at 11k polys is quite an achievement in itself.

More man-boobies !!

Genitals?  Really?  He can't even reach them...and if he was being...erm..'serviced'...there would be some sort of jack involved or she would suffocate.

:)

--Rebekah--

Gawd! Bekah! We all thought that, but you're the first to say it.:laugh: LOLOLOLOL

ANYWAY!-----Mike, this version would make a great figure from a slobby uncle to a fine dressed Maffia Kinpin!  I forgot to say how cool this is.  You should check out Rikishi by Odegami in the marketplace. Another heavy-weight contender.

Thanks all. Glad you like him.  I really had fun making this one, which is what it's all about from my standpoint. By tomorrow I will have him rigged and bending, been working on it. Fixed that crease too, I will show some pics when I get him rigged.  I need to go and find some sumo photo's so I can get that squat stance they do posed right.

Hi odf.  I kept the head you helped me with, cause I liked it, and made a new everything else. I will have to send you a copy, it's not as nice as Antonia's mesh, but still better than I have done in the past.  So a new personal best. 

Joel: I think I will like the mags when I get the hang of them.  I know that they can be rigged to move with the bones and what I really like is that they can effect as many groups as you want to assign them. That would be great for moving those rolls of fat around to make them jiggle and bounce when he moves.
I have seen Rikishi but have not got him yet.  There is this guy at renderotica that uses Rikishi almost exclusively in his renders. Hey! I bet Rikishi's got one of those loin cloth thingies I could borrow to put on this guy so I can make him decent enough to show over at Daz.  :) 

Quote - More man-boobies !!

Genitals?  Really?  He can't even reach them...and if he was being...erm..'serviced'...there would be some sort of jack involved or she would suffocate.

:)

--Rebekah--

Hi sixus1:  He could have a power loader.    :lol:

Probably not much use for genitals, which is good, in that it brings his poly count down to 15,500.

Cheers,

Mike.

The alternate geometry hip leaps to mind with the "Genitials" Checkmark in the figures tab being UN checked! LOLOLOLOL  Poor fellow probably can't even see it, except when excited. Maybe. VERY EXCITED? Maybe.

Lordy. Why do all the professional seeming folks I truck with have such filthy minds?:laugh:

Maybe it's just the "seeming" part should be "seamy"?:lol:

The double belly is wicked.

I am apparently the first one usually to say the things that we are all thinking...but no one says.  You'd think that having to type it out would stop me, but it doesn't seem to.

BTW-- what's he going to wear ? Cut off sweatpants, dirty wifebeater, and flip-flops ??

"Ah haven't seen them in three years, which is long enough to declare them legally dead - Fat Bastard...
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That' d be a good place to start. :laugh: Or a Buddha outfit.

Talk about the vast opposites of the world experience!:lol:

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OH NOOO!   That's funny!   :lol:  I have to admit I have wondered if it's not also true?

sixus1,  Yes riding way up high and tied with a rope.  Have to have the grease spots on the front too where he wipes his hands. 

Quote - > Quote - the one you sent me of you in the mankini.

Should I be afraid?! 

We should all be afraid! DrD in a Mankini! YIKES!!! :tt2:

SWEET!  He's starting to look like he's really starting to pop as a figure! Impressive work.

Look! Hey,hey,HEY!  It's fat Albert, all grown up with Miley Cyrus! :ohmy:

Shows fat man boobies better.

I like Brad's man boobies better, much more apealing than the guy in the pic.

I have gotten rid of the top belly crease though, and worked on the joints some more.  Will post some pics in a bit.

Been searching my mess of stored files for this old cr2 with a rig I put together a few years back. Can't seem to find it, Grrrr. I had gotten rid of the "hip" group completely and given it to hip2 and lower abdomen groups.  I left the "hip" bone in the rig but with out any geometry and welded the lower abdomen to hip2 in the cr2. There were problems with it mainly that the upper half of the body would bend faster or slower than the lower half.  So I gave the center of lower abdomen the exact same center position as "hip".  Anyway, there were other problems but I wanted to dig it out and look at it again, possibly for use here.  But looks like I may have to build it all over again. I am daunted by the mess of my files, back in those early times (for me) I didn't give my files meaningfull names, so now I have no idea what I'm looking at till I load it up and check.

Early times.......bet that's funny to you Joel? You been around forever in one place or another, 1980? Dont know why I thought that. And look at sixus1, rendo in 1999, wow I think I'd be crazy by now. Bet it's exaperating watching newbs like me finding ideas and running around with them like new toys, you all sitting back there thinking, "Oh that's years old news, get on with it already!"  :lol:

I'm rambling....happens when you live alone, and your mind is failing.

Cheers,

Mike.

"I'm rambling....happens when you live alone, and your mind is failing." LOLOLOL You goofbal! THAT is why you're here interacting with us.:laugh: All of us are alone in our own heads, whether we are in a crowd or on a mountain top, but in truth we are all surrounded by the spirits of those who came before us.

I haven't been around THAT long. Not here since 1980! LOLOLOL  Inexperience is no respecter of old age!

Also most of time here was as a not involved lurker. Now I'm involved and not lurking.:lol:

Cheers,

Mike.

For 11000 polys, that's really impressive.

Disturbing in the extreme, but impressive.:laugh:

LOL  Mike.  That's wonderful.  I have seen some really heavy people dance lightly on their toes and extremely well - very fascinating to watch,

I hope you haven't ditched releasing that flexible Brad I've been hanging out for?  

Quote - LOL  Mike.  That's wonderful.  I have seen some really heavy people dance lightly on their toes and extremely well - very fascinating to watch,

I hope you haven't ditched releasing that flexible Brad I've been hanging out for?  

Never!  I really wanted a mesh though that I wasn't ashamed of, and this mesh rocks!  So I will be using this one for Brad low, and all I have to do for Brad high is to divide, and it comes out at around 60,000.

I really like this mesh because it's low poly and I can still do all sorts of morphs for it , also it seems (so far) to deform very well for joint bending.

Wheew! Sure took me long enough to finally get some decent geometry. I am especially weak when it comes to geometry, I think I just don't have the brain for it. Someone like odf or pjz99 can just spot the problems and solutions right off.  Me, I just don't see it. Takes me days sometimes to see the pattern.

Still have one spot on the inside leg that I need to get right, maybe odf or pjz99 will take pity on me and show me how to fix it.  :)

Really very happy with the way this mesh bends-deforms though I just hope it will be the same in high poly.

Cheers,

Mike. 

We all have different strengths and weaknesses. I thought mine was texturing, but it might be morphing stuff. Yesterday, I played with magnets all day. I had a new character in mind ant it was not co-operating until I took multiple magnets to it. It worked! Different tools (like PEOPLE) have different strengths and weaknesses.  They achieve different things. Together all these different people can do wonders.:laugh:

Very glad the leaner Brad is still in the works Mike :)

As you say enjoying your creative bursts is what makes it all fun, things seem to come so much easier then.

Joel hit it on the head, thank goodness we all have different or at least varying  strengths, doesn't
mean we can't master the others, just that it doesn't come quite as easily.  Your rigging is just great!!  And the rest will come up to par if you are keen enough.

And if you're not - our loss but at least you are doing what you most enjoy. :)

Well in case anyone is curious about this new mesh I put together, here's a couple of shots.  I always like to see mesh shots, it's interesting to see the poly formations :)

The Front.

That's a handsome mesh you got there.

Wow, that is QUICK work! Good work,too!  Very impressive. How about a side-view?

Edit still need to tweek them but just trying to figure out the best way to lay them out and get the most out of one template.

WHoa....never seen one like that. Sixus1 puts all the textures on one UV plate , but with head on top. No wasted space at ALL. Not rotated head, though.

I use body paint so I would never know it was side ways.

 He's simply awesome! And.. I may be the oddball here but I think he's sexy in his own way...

Even fat guys need love.

Even fat guys need love.

In that case there's still hope for me! :biggrin:

regards,

Bopper.

Thanks TG!  I think he's cute sort of like a cherub. Especially if I can get some great expression morphs for bright smiles and bold unabashed laughter. 

bopperthijs, JOELGLAINE:  Everyone is beautiful, and deserves to be special to someone.

Thanks for the input momodot, I like your map better too. I think for this version of him it will work out great.  I'm going for a figure that will be quick and friendly to animation, so a single map makes sense.  Later I can do a higher rez version with more maps for those who want high rez maps with lots of detail. But for this one I thought a good quick character thats just fun to use.

Hi RorrKonn, where ya been? Doing well I hope.