Installed it today and everything seems to run fine and smooth.
A scene I couldn't load with the first Vue 8 version anymore (and which I've sent to e-on) loads fine now

It says there are currently no updates when I just looked

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Quote - It says there are currently no updates when I just looked

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http://www.e-onsoftware.com/resources/ShowUpdates.php?ProductTypeID=81 says:

Your Maintenance Plan for Vue 8 Infinite includes access to free Expedited Engineering Fixes (EEF).

I didn't subscribe to any maintenance plan, but maybe it's because it's less than one month since I bought my upgrade to Vue 8.

Vue 8 Infinite - Build 47776 The following is a list of bug fixes and improvements included in this update:

• Changed default internal unit (now set to 1 meter).
• Fixed a potential crash when an area light is replaced by a group.
• Improved conversion of Poser materials to Vue materials (global reflectivity value).
• Fixed various issues when editing procedural terrain after being converted from standard (zero edges, settings consistency ...).
• Fixed wrong procedural terrains automatic extension evaluation.
• Slight User Interface updates after a standard terrain to parametric conversion.
• Fixed the edition of bones using the translation/rotation/scale helpers.
• Fixed undo/redo from the skeleton editor.
• Fixed truncated titles in some Cornucopia3D items in the browser.
• Fixed GI rendering of objects miniatures before saving.
• Improved memory useage with subsurface scattering.
• Improved memory useage when rendering infinite terrains with displacement mapping.
• Fixed a potential Level of Detail computation issue when rendering with the terrain editor opened.
• Fixed a possible crash when loading complex ecosystem specimens creaed with a previous version of Vue.
• Fixed potential OpenGL engine issues with reposing, Terrain Editor, render area and EcoSystems.
• Vue will now display a warning message when ran under an unsupported Operating System.
• Improved re-activation of EDU licenses.

Mazak

I had a 30 day maintenance plan when I bought 7.5 - that ran out a few days ago.  I suppose we lesser mortals have to wait a while (even though some of us helped e-on fix some bugs!!!!)

Well, on the bright side, some will have to test it before it get sthe green light  for us mere mortals!

:biggrin:

The 47776 build update seems to be gone ... no update download available anymore right now ...

My maintanence plan ran out today I think.  So the update is gone now.  It will be back though once it's no longer considered a beta update and Vue detects it on its own at startup.  Takes a few weeks.

I've got a maintanence plan until  Nov. 2010 ... can't be the reason ...

You better get ahold of E-on and verify that Nov. 2010 thing is true then and that you're able to login to your account and see the update.

It's back.

I don't see any updates.  Is it another update or 47776 still?

Quote - I don't see any updates.  Is it another update or 47776 still?

It was away yesterday (I've double checked), and it's back again today. And yep, it's still 47776.
I guess the temporary disappearance was some collateral damage from the Cornucopia3D database problems.

Its there now, Installed it on monday myself.  Fixed a few bugs in my i7 setup

I've checked daily and no new updates... and Vue and poser shaders are horrible! I've had 4 versions of Vue and Vue 8 is the 5th and latest and by far the worse yet... and Vue support has really sucked! When I posted my detail problems all of which I corrected with out their help initially except for rendering using the poser shader tree from Poser 8, all they said was I'd have to tweak the textures in Vue to get them to work. Then why use the poser shader render option if I turn it off to tweak in Vue??? I can render the same two files in Vue 6I and Vue 8 and the poser figures look totally different especial V4 and I'm using the same settings exactly! Abd Vue 6I looks great and Vue 8 awful! This will probably be my last Vue purchase with the attitude I got so far from them... and I was a major Vue fan!

 rbratche - i'm sure a lot of us would like to say that, but truth is, despite vue's faults, nobody does it better. (sung to the tune of the jame's bond theme) vue can do things no one else can do.
I'm stuck with vue forever.
Love esther

But I'm not paying for new programs that suck, and so far Vue 8 sucks and doesn't do any think better! Plus the response form them was the same! I would have agreed with you once upon a Vue... just not with their latest release and the crappy response I got! I hope they fix Vue 8 soon or I'm requesting a refund... really disappointed and I too though Vue forever... but even forever ends:( 

No program (other than Poser) that I know of can import any Poser model without tweaking its materials afterwards.  No two 3D programs share the same material/shader/node/bones system.  If you bought Vue thinking it was just Poser with clouds added, you're in for some pain.

Vue is designed for rendering outdoor environments.  People are just an after thought and are just part of the scenery.

Read my post! I've had vue since version 4, had 5, 6 and 6I, all work great with importing poser figures, yet Vue 8 is horrible, the worse import I've seen with a 3D application! I imported the same file in Vue 6 and 6i and it render beautifully... loaded same scene in Vue 8 with the same settings on the same computer... and it renders like crap! And since it is using the poser render shaders... the poser figures should look like poser renders or close at least!  I'm saying Vue 8 is a step backwards not forwards and for the price is not acceptable! Look at my gallery, all done with Vue... I'm very experienced with Vue and have been for many years including making my own custom shaders and tweaking the software! My point is Vue 8 is a major disappointment as is their response to my problem especially with all the money I've sent their way! I've also use Poser since version 1 so i know the programs and how to tweak well!

Quote - I hope they fix Vue 8 soon or I'm requesting a refund...

Best of luck with that... I attempted to get a refund on my upgrade to 7 Infinite after coming to the conclusion that they had had no intention of fixing any of the outstanding issues and it was pretty much ignored. On that note, the outstanding issues and their respective support tickets remain open without resolution, so it looks like I'm sticking with Vue 6 Infinite.

Seriously, I feel your pain rbratche and do hope they take care of the issues or at least refund your investment. Speaking specifically to the issue with the Poser shader tree, I've never found it to work very well in any version of Vue, but you wouldn't think they would make it any less functional.

Quote - Read my post! I've had vue since version 4, had 5, 6 and 6I, all work great with importing poser figures, yet Vue 8 is horrible, the worse import I've seen with a 3D application! I imported the same file in Vue 6 and 6i and it render beautifully... loaded same scene in Vue 8 with the same settings on the same computer... and it renders like crap! And since it is using the poser render shaders... the poser figures should look like poser renders or close at least!  I'm saying Vue 8 is a step backwards not forwards and for the price is not acceptable! Look at my gallery, all done with Vue... I'm very experienced with Vue and have been for many years including making my own custom shaders and tweaking the software! My point is Vue 8 is a major disappointment as is their response to my problem especially with all the money I've sent their way! I've also use Poser since version 1 so i know the programs and how to tweak well!

Well, if you've used Poser since version 1 and Vue since version 4, then you would know the long history of Poser not importing perfectly into Vue.  I looked at your gallery here.  I can't tell from your renders if the Poser figures imported with their correct materials or not.

Shawn you are still missing my point I guess, and it's not worth the disagreement, but what I am saying is Vue 8 is by far inferior to it's predecessors, and thus a step backwards as is their response! My images you viewed with poser figures are imported straight without "Tweaking" and look great IMHO:). The renders with Vue 8 when it doesn't crash are awful! I don't expect perfect... but taking 4 steps back and paying such a high upgrade price! I checked your gallery also and see you don't use Vue with poser, at least not as evident from your gallery, where I have used the programs extensively and up until Vue 8 with always very pleased!  But when a program doesn't do what it is advertised as doing, and you pay hundred's of dollars for that... and it doesn't deliver!  Well apparent you like Vue 8 and don't see my side... so will will have to agree to disagree. I hope they do fix Vue 8, as I would love to continue working with what was once a great product line! Because I can bet I won't get a refund... but they wont' get anymore money from me at this rate! And I agree with JDC, I'm sticking with Vue 6I... works awesome for me:)

Peace

Are you using the very latest version of Poser 8?  If so, you'll need to wait for E-on to catchup.  Otherwise, can you please post a Vue 6 and Vue 8 render of the same Poser model for comparison?  Then we can tell you what to tweak real quick to get things to look the same.

 Agg - she's green.  My vue 8 certainly has not done that to my poser people.  However maybe that texture pack has some advanced shaders that got misinterpreted by the new vue.  try a different texture and see if the problem is gone.
Love esther
ps I get y our point - it used to work and now it doesn't.  not good I agree.

Oh.  The green skin thing.  Carrara suffered from this for awhile too until the creator of the figure updated their textures.  Is this a Vicky4 model?  DAZ3D updated her to 4.1 or 4.2 to remove the green skin that confused 3D apps other than DAZ | Studio.  The person that created that model/texture should have an update for the current version of Vicky.

The confusion, if I remember is that the diffuse color thinks it should have a green tint about it instead of loading the texture map straight.  It only happens with the skin, I think.  In Vue you can remove the green easily until you download a fixed model.

Has done it with any model that uses the advance skin shaders... works ok with older models like V3 and M3? And I have used update V4.2 and new textures? Point is I should not have to work backwards when upgrading at a high price! I know a work around, but I want to render the way I normally do, especially when I pay for it to work the way they claim! What really ticked me off was their lame reply... if they said they were working to fix it... I would have waited! Will never buy a new upgrade from them again! May wait until it's time for the newer version and buy cheap after the bugs are fixed! I only upgraded to V8 and P8 for better windows 7 compatibility actually! So it's back to Vue 6I and Poser 7, and poser 8 for strictly poser renders:(

Thanks

this is why I always tweak Poser materials, they are CRAP compared to tweaked Vue ones! 

Some of the tweaked Vue I like better in this image, but some diff not! I usually get great results just using very specific lighting with light tune for my taste! But again my point is not about  "Tweaking" it's about that Vue 8 doesn't perform as advertised and doesn't perform as well as Vue 4-6 and 6I! Why should I pay for something that is supposed to be better when it is clearly 4 steps backwards! Seems only  estherau and JCD gets my point with this post... I give up.

the "green" or "Hulk" skin issue has been known about for a while, and occured in PREVIOUS versions of Vue as well :)

First time it has ever happened for me with 4 versions prior to Vue 8, which also crashed all the time! Went back to Vue 6I and will wait to see if a patch fixes all the problems with Vue 8, hopefully I didn't waste my money! So far it seams all related to the poser shaders, when turned off Vue 8 renders like previous versions with the poser shaders turned off, but it just won't use the shaders like earlier versions... one of the reason I use Vue for! And still the 47776 build is not available for everyone???

Only if you paid extra for EEF patches.  Otherwise you have to wait until they are released to the general public.

As a Poser 7 and Vue 6.5i user I still have no intention to update on either front. It seems they just don't introduce many useful new features, and the bugs and issues just keep piling on.

I have just downloaded Vue 8 Build 47967 Full Update!

BTW: This was not shown when I clicked at the "check for ..."-button within the proggy!

Regards,

Bernie

The updates are seen by the app once they are no longer considered beta.  47776 is now no longer a beta update and can be seen by any Vue customer.

Quote - As a Poser 7 and Vue 6.5i user I still have no intention to update on either front. It seems they just don't introduce many useful new features, and the bugs and issues just keep piling on.

What new features are you hoping will get added to Vue?  I only just started using Poser as a dynamic cloth plugin for it.  :)

PARTICLE GENERATOR!!!

It is way overdue.

Then I'd upgrade to vue what ever it will be.

CobraEye
 Yes, I'd Love  that too, menawhile I use Particle illlusion ;)

Vue8 IS a lot better than v6

Is Particle Illusion eventually going to see an update after six years?

I've been asking for a particle system and real modeling tools. I know I'm in the minority but shrug.

most folk want particles, but vue doesn' tneed a modeller, it's "general" pwoers need much more work, ie atmospherics, terrians, vegetation and that also means particles.

with the ability to used rigged meshes, improvign ontha tto allow rigging inside Vue would be good, tbuat that's all I'd want as modellign tools ar emajor work I'd rather the devs spent elsehwere

Shawn
the company was recently bought over, so we cna hope to see a particle illusion4 at some point...I bought v3 only other month, after using v2 SE for years.

If you want to make models, use a modeller, if you want to render environments, use Vue :biggrin:

The goal isn't to completely replace modelers. Just the basic tools like access to vertexes, extrude, shader zones, and so on. I just find Vue to be the best user interface out there and would love to be able to do more than metablobs and booleans with it.

So what's been improved in the new update from Tuesday?

It still needs the native ability to easily create rivers and roads.

Quote - The goal isn't to completely replace modelers. Just the basic tools like access to vertexes, extrude, shader zones, and so on. I just find Vue to be the best user interface out there and would love to be able to do more than metablobs and booleans with it.

Trouble is - where do you stop with the tools? if you are extruding etc. you are going to break the UV maps which means you are going to need UV mapping tools.  Let Vue do what it does best and leave the modelling to dedicated modelling apps

I use PI too, but it would be so cool if Vue had particles the way Bluff Titler does.  If Bluff a $50 program has particles why does version 8 of vue not.  Is anyone even listening at e-on?
We've been asking for particles since version 4.

Has anyone seen the power of Bluff.  Their D packs are amazing.

Applied the new update... and in all but one area it made things a lot worse:( Only thing better is that Vue 8 isn't crashing like it did, but poser figures still render green, response when moving objects slows to a crawl... and I have a 3.02 I7 quad processor and 12 gigs ddr3 ram, and it doesn't like my video card now:( I use to brag on Vue, was the best 3d application going... but so far 8 has left me very disappointed:( Man what a waste of money, time and effort with this version, and I still say their new policies and service has declined greatly... IMHO! Maybe the next patch will work.... until then I'm sticking with 6I... a fantastic software!

The 47776 build is now back for the common Vue user.
And the Mac version is still the very first Engineering Fix from November, the one that says: "Disk Image is probably damaged". I was although able to open and install it without major problems.

Just use Poser to remove the green first before saving for import into VUe.