ok.

poser was going along just fine..(poser 6, on vista home ed) my hubby installed frets on fire(something like guitar heros but free it is built with python script2.6)

now...poser wont load ANY morphs at all. nothing.

wont change the appearance of a figure at all(other then MATs)

I have uninstalled it, did a checkpoint restore to before the date of installation of frets and all that lovely stuff...and poser still wont load any morphs.

any fix for this?????

Have you reinstalled Python?

O.o...I havent dont a reinstall of P6 yet...trying  not to as I have five of those for different figures...how do I just reinstall python?

http://www.python.org/download/

Not sure which runtime you need though. Python experts may be better at answering that. :) But reinstalling the Python runtime might reset whatever Frets on Fire messed up.  I had that game installed too on an old computer, but I don't recall that it messed up Poser.  But it could have been a different version.

I am not sure if that is going to be the same as the python for poser 6....>.<

Does Poser 6 require that an older version of Python is used?

well it is a few years old. So I am not sure..but I have removed even the register entries for frets and still wont load any morphs.....

Poser has it's own internal Python interpreter.  It shouldn't matter if you even have Python installed on system.

It's sounds like one of the Vista UAC peculiarities.  For me, it was a constant battle with Vista and every graphics program I had.  Finally sidegraded to WinXP 64

There are a few threads around, but I used some of the not recommended techniques like turning UAC off.  Also installing poser in a directory other than "Program Files/...whatever" will help.  Vista and Win 7 both have the "protected virtual store" which put blank copies of necessary files where you don't expect them.

You will also have to init the figures using the "DzCreateExPFiles-(Figure Name).bat" found in Runtime/libraries/!DAZ

Poser wasnt giving me any issue till frets on fire was installed..then, it wouldnt load -any- morphs at all...even uninstalling it, cleaning the registry etc...nothing worked.

I have opened up poser again and tried to get python working and it froze the puter.

I have NO idea how to fix it.

I am crossing my fingers and hoping that I dont have to reinstalled -everything-...

longshot. delete your poser preferences and let poser recreate them. you never know.....

What makes you think it has anything to do with Python?

Have you run any of the built in poserscripts to see if the internal Python functions?

I think you are assuming that because two programs use routines from the same language that they somehow interact.

I mean, I have MS Excel which uses C++ and it has no relationship to any other program on the system that uses that as basic language core.

Poser has very few registry entries of import, most of those deal with file associations and it will run fine without those as long as you use them in the program and don't try double clicking a PZ3 or something.  The other entries deal with location of temp files.

Have you run the inits I suggested in previous post.  Sometimes even under normal conditions the init doesn't take and gives no error message.  eXp technology is somewhat flaky at times

While Poser has its own Python engine, the components are visible as registered Python modules. (I think - not speaking from strong expertise here - caveat emptor) Anyway, if the stupid Frets program felt it necessary to "upgrade" one of those, it may have looked around and poked its version into your Poser program folder, thinking that it was a standard Python installation. You might try just re-installing Poser itself. This should not destroy anything you've added - just will put everything back the way it is supposed to be.

This is why UAC does not let one program poke files into another program's folders anymore. Which is great except when the one program is a Daz installer and the other program is Poser.

no the reason I am linking the python is because poser wont even let me open my python library now without freezing the puter completely.

I cant touch any of the python scripts in the library without it locking the puter up.

when this started(the morph issue) I tried to reinitialize my python scripts it locked the puter up.

I reopened poser...applied MATs..ok....tried morph..nope.

tried python...locked up puter.

My p6 runtimes arent even on my main drive. they worked perfectly fine before.

hubby installed frets. and poser refuses to use morphs of any kind.

refuses to allow me to use python without locking up the puter..seems that there is an issue with python.

the night this happened, poser was working fine...finished a work closed my programs down, hubby got on, dled and installed frets.(ONLY thing that changed with the puter) he got off it about an hour later I popped back on, opened poser..and the morph issue was there as well as the python issue.

rolled back to a check point before install...nothing.

uninstalled frets, cleaned registry of its entries and ...nothing....

have been trying to get poser to work again all day and...nothing.......

Quote - While Poser has its own Python engine, the components are visible as registered Python modules. (I think - not speaking from strong expertise here - caveat emptor) Anyway, if the stupid Frets program felt it necessary to "upgrade" one of those, it may have looked around and poked its version into your Poser program folder, thinking that it was a standard Python installation. You might try just re-installing Poser itself. This should not destroy anything you've added - just will put everything back the way it is supposed to be.

This is why UAC does not let one program poke files into another program's folders anymore. Which is great except when the one program is a Daz installer and the other program is Poser.

I was SO HOPEING you would reply>.<

ok I did try to reinstall over the install present..but doesnt seem to work. I have just hit "launch to factory state" and am about to reopen it and set it up again and test it.

nada....

I am apparently going to have to do clean installs..>.<

Poser's Python is an unregistered install, i.e. it has no registry entries to allow other programs to know of it's existence.

My first guess is that the other program installed an incompatible copy of MSVCRT.DLL and/or one or more other common DLL in Window's system directory.

Tracking down and fixing this sort of thing can be really tricky.

Listen to NR.

Quote - Poser's Python is an unregistered install, i.e. it has no registry entries to allow other programs to know of it's existence.

My first guess is that the other program installed an incompatible copy of MSVCRT.DLL and/or one or more other common DLL in Window's system directory.

Tracking down and fixing this sort of thing can be really tricky.

.< well I have started to reinstall p6...crossing my fingers this will work.

I do not feel confident enough to manually twiddle my dlls.

hopefully this will get p6 working again.

Thank you ALL for advice and trying to help.

The only hope of correcting a problem like this is to collect sufficient information before trying to do anything else, as the true cause of the problem isn't known exactly yet (just a theory based on previous experience).

If you have access to a second computer with the same version of Windows and hasn't had the problem software installed, the speed of solving will increase.
Other factors are whether or not you are able to reinstall Windows, and the cost (in time and effort of reinstalling apps) of doing so.

I once have similar situation, not finding what stinky program did.

I end up re-install program, and then quickly use search function to find files recently created or modified.  This one modifed some MFC files and giving me fits.

I know is scary to install again program that screw up system, but is like saying "hair of dog that bit you"

well I have it all reinstalled and seemscrosses fingers and knocks on wood of every kind to be working. soooo, frets is banned from my puter now. >.<