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Subject: "Make Groups For Models" - a tutorial by Dr Geep

geep opened this issue on Aug 22, 2011 · 34 posts
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geep ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 9:31 PM · edited Wed, 20 November 2024 at 10:27 AM

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This is a *special edition* for **mathman.**

We shall continue ... soon ...

Enjoy. 😄

cheers
dr geep
;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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mathman ( ) posted Tue, 23 August 2011 at 6:56 AM

Woohoo .... thanks doc !

geep ( ) posted Tue, 23 August 2011 at 8:12 AM · edited Tue, 23 August 2011 at 8:21 AM

Attached Link: Get your FREE "xplane" model HERE - (.obj format - only 16KB zipped))

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*(click image to view full size)*

😄

Get ready to .................. join the "Group." ... :biggrin:

Got your xplane model loaded into Poser?

Get a FREE xplane model using the Attached Link: (above the image)

(compliments of Dr Geep Studios) Note - Model is only 52KB unzipped

Who can xplane it? :lol:

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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tsquare ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 6:36 PM

Yay! Groups!  greets NaySayGuy and sits in the front row with a smile and nod to Mathman

mathman ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 7:17 PM

Nods back to tsquare :)

geep ( ) posted Thu, 25 August 2011 at 11:16 AM

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Meet Poser's Grouping Tool (the Editing Tool) ... aka the Group Editor (the window).

Let's learn how to use the Grouping Tool / Editor ... Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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grichter ( ) posted Thu, 25 August 2011 at 5:53 PM

Somebody's got some xplane'ing to do.

The Doc keeps turning out these great tuts to the point I think I'm turning into a Dr. Geep Tut Groupie!

Thanks Doc for all you do to xplane the the mysteries of Poser to the Group here!

Gary

"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"

geep ( ) posted Thu, 25 August 2011 at 9:32 PM

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Let's make a "New Group" named *"window"* and then ...

"Assign Mateial" named "plexiglas" and then ...

... take a look and see what we have ... Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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geep ( ) posted Fri, 26 August 2011 at 3:57 PM · edited Fri, 26 August 2011 at 4:01 PM

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It looks like we get a strange group of polygons after saving a .pz3 file and then reloading the .pz3 file ... :blink: ... Poser has added some polygons to the *"window"* group ... **WITHOUT** our permission.

 ??? .......................... Hmmm, did Poser have a hissy-fit?. :lol:

Anywho ... Let's work on some groups for the xplane ... Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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RedPhantom ( ) posted Fri, 26 August 2011 at 6:40 PM
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mathman ( ) posted Fri, 26 August 2011 at 6:49 PM

Doc, I have PPro 2010, and this did not happen with me. In other words, I saved the scene as a PZ3, and when I re-opened it, all was fine.

Maybe this is a bug in older versions of Poser ?

geep ( ) posted Fri, 26 August 2011 at 7:32 PM

Thanks for the feedback mathman. 👍

I am using Poser 8 ver 8.0.3.11793.

Is anyone else using Poser 8 and can you run the test to see if the same problem exists?

TIA. 😄

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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parkdalegardener ( ) posted Sat, 27 August 2011 at 7:21 AM

Quote - Thanks for the feedback mathman. 👍

I am using Poser 8 ver 8.0.3.11793.

Is anyone else using Poser 8 and can you run the test to see if the same problem exists?

TIA. 😄

I'll check for you as soon as the wife wakes up.  P8 version you are using is on that machine. Like mathman I have PP2010 on this one.

pdg


RedPhantom ( ) posted Sat, 27 August 2011 at 7:29 AM
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I'm using p8 and didn't have the problem.

Available on Amazon for the Kindle E-Reader Monster of the North and The Shimmering Mage

Today I break my own personal record for the number of days for being alive.
Check out my store here or my free stuff here
I use Poser 13 and win 10

parkdalegardener ( ) posted Sat, 27 August 2011 at 7:54 AM

Hey Doc. The wife woke up and I am on the other machine.  Test.pz3 works for me

Poser 8 version 8.0.3.11793 on Win7 x64 Ultimate.

pdg


geep ( ) posted Sat, 27 August 2011 at 8:01 AM

Hmmm .... curiouser and curiouser ... :blink:

Oh well, I just used it as a segue into how to remove unwanteted polygons. 😄

Thanks for checking guys. :biggrin: ... I appreciate the feedback.

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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parkdalegardener ( ) posted Sat, 27 August 2011 at 8:08 AM

We apreciate the tutorials.


geep ( ) posted Sat, 27 August 2011 at 8:12 AM

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Ok, let's get on to something a little more interesting than the "box." 😄

Load up the xplane and ...

Note - It's a good idea to delete any existing groups to prevent potential problems later on.

... make a "windows" group ... and ADD some polys.

Got 'em grouped? ... Good ... Remember to "Assign Material..." named "plexiglas" ...

and then ... Let's vist the Material Room ... Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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Faery_Light ( ) posted Sat, 27 August 2011 at 10:25 AM

bookmarking. :)


Let me introduce you to my multiple personalities. :)
     BluEcho...Faery_Light...Faery_Souls.

geep ( ) posted Sat, 27 August 2011 at 1:12 PM · edited Sat, 27 August 2011 at 1:20 PM

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Enter the Material Room ... Some may find this room daunting ... but ... it's not ... ... if you know how to use it.  We will cover the basics for both the Advanced (default) and the Simple modes of operation in this room. :biggrin:

Enter the room .... Select the tool ... select the material ... and
.. that's all there is to it .................................... almost ... 😄

Don't worry ... more details coming soon ... 👍... Whew !

The Advanced (default) mode ... Next ...

A survey (this is optional) actually, all this stuff is optional, ain't it? :lol:
I know that economic times are getting tighter for all of us.  That includes me and the cost of operation for a website is not real inexpensive ... so ... I was thinking about the possibility of making part (or all) of Dr Geep Studios a pay site.  What do you think a reasonable charge would be for; the whole site?,  per month?,  per  tutorial?
$1?, $2?, $5?, $10?, $20?, $50?, $100? ... more? :lol:
Drop me an email ... geep(at)cableone(dot)net ... and let me know what you think.  Thanks.
BTW - In the email addy, You need to replace the (at) with @ and ...,
aw shucks, you already knew that din't cha :lol:

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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grichter ( ) posted Sun, 28 August 2011 at 6:35 PM

Doc I know you still have a lot to cover, but I hope you can "xplane" what the Create Prespective UV's is for and when to use it and the same for Smoothing Id's. Never seen them discussed.

I assume and the problem is it's an assumption on my part that the smothing id is like taking the new group and assigning a new smoothing value to that new group as compared to the whole previous group.

The create perspective UV's I assume and again an assumption on my part is a dangerous thing...is it assigns the UV map to the new group. But if you don't do that then what? If you do do it what happens to your texture map from the original. Do you need to modify it based on the modifications you have made?

Sorry fo the interruption

Thanks

Gary

 

Gary

"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"

geep ( ) posted Sun, 28 August 2011 at 9:53 PM · edited Sun, 28 August 2011 at 9:54 PM

Attached Link: Maybe this will help with "Create Perspective UVs"

Hi Gary,

Check the link 😄

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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grichter ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 2:03 AM

Yes it does and thanks. But let me ask it a different way. if the xplane was already uv-mapped and you now created the windshield group, did poser then remap the uv's by this new group or do you have to create the uv's again inside of poser by using the create perspective UV's (maybe I am ahead of your tut). But was doing this very thing last week. Selected an area I wanted to break off as a new group on a purchased landscape scene and change a part I selected from rocky texture to a sandy texture, yet leave the rest of it as is or rocky. Sandy beach in a rock cove type of look is what I was trying to achieve. So after these steps what is the impact on the original UV maps or texture maps. I was trying to do it as quick and as easy as possible and was not sure if I needed to run it thru a UV mapping software package again. But I did not click on create perspective UVs at any point during my attempt last week. I am out of town on business for two weeks and the files are back on my main computer at home, but when I exported the .obj file (I wanted to flatten the rocky area that was not going to be sandy so it wasn't so bumpy by moving some ploygons around) I think I lost the mapping and just retained the grouping is all. If that makes since.

 

Gary

"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"

Faery_Light ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 11:26 AM

This one will be posted on your site, won't it?

I can't keep up right now, getting the flu.

 


Let me introduce you to my multiple personalities. :)
     BluEcho...Faery_Light...Faery_Souls.

geep ( ) posted Sat, 24 September 2011 at 9:56 AM · edited Sat, 24 September 2011 at 9:59 AM

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Here are a couple of the ***"Advanced"*** mode operations.

Now ...

Let's see how we can change the color or add a texture map ...

Next ...

P.S. to Blu ......... Hope you're feeling better. ... 😄

BTW ... This tut is not on my website (yet) ...

I will probably post it when it is complete.**
**

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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Faery_Light ( ) posted Sat, 24 September 2011 at 10:56 AM

Thanks.

Went to the doctoer and got a flu shot to prevent any new bouts.

Now my meds are giving me a headache...ugh.

I'm saving these to a special folder on my computer so I can take time to study them.

 

 


Let me introduce you to my multiple personalities. :)
     BluEcho...Faery_Light...Faery_Souls.

TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Sat, 24 September 2011 at 2:25 PM

Just popping in to say that.. IF you were to make the Plexiglass material (or any other group) on both sides of the model at the same time, simply switch preview to wireframe. Then you'll select everything.. If the mest looks transparent, then poser will treat it that way. An easy way of for instance selecting all of the hem line in a cloth simpulation :)

 

So many people are afraid of the Grouping Tool, and it' has always been one of the greatest features of Poser IMO :)

 

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geep ( ) posted Mon, 26 September 2011 at 11:02 PM · edited Mon, 26 September 2011 at 11:03 PM

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Here's how to change the basic color ...

Now let's see if we can ...

... add a texture map ... Next ... Maybe ... :lol:

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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parkdalegardener ( ) posted Tue, 27 September 2011 at 7:15 AM

Nice to see you back Doc. I was worried about you.


geep ( ) posted Thu, 06 October 2011 at 8:46 AM · edited Thu, 06 October 2011 at 8:47 AM

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Before we can add a texture map ... we need create a "New node," i.e., a place to load the texture map.

Now, we can use the Texture Manager to find and add our texture map.

Using the Texture Manager ... Next ...

P.S. Thanks parkdale. 😄

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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geep ( ) posted Thu, 06 October 2011 at 9:29 AM · edited Thu, 06 October 2011 at 9:29 AM

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Got your map loaded? ... Good! ...

Now ... let's see what our model looks like with a texture map applied ... Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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geep ( ) posted Thu, 06 October 2011 at 9:35 AM · edited Thu, 06 October 2011 at 9:41 AM

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*(click the image to view full size - 512 x 512 - 148KB)*

Here's a texture map you can use. (copyright Dr Geep Studios)
(You may copy and use this graphic with NO restrictions)

Right click on the full size image and "Save Image as..." 😄

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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geep ( ) posted Fri, 07 October 2011 at 9:36 AM · edited Fri, 07 October 2011 at 9:43 AM

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Now ... we apply out texture map and ...... Walla! ........... Oops ... :scared:

:sad: ... Sumpin' not right ... Let's find out what we need to do to fix it ... Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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geep ( ) posted Fri, 07 October 2011 at 9:39 AM · edited Fri, 07 October 2011 at 9:40 AM

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It's called UV Mapping.

A prop (object) needs to have a UV Map so that Poser knows where to place the texture map on the object.

Can we make a UV Map with Poser? ... Yes ... Let's see how ... Next ... 😄

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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