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Subject: Antonia - Opinions?


Believable3D ( ) posted Tue, 25 October 2011 at 8:24 AM

Quote - FacePutty comes as part of the Poser Toolbox. I am not sure if a generated cage with magnets can be distributed within the license.

Surely not, but I wouldn't think that's how you would distribute the morph anyway. I haven't used it (don't own the Poser Toolbox), but my assumption is that you would use the Face Putty, then export the head as a morph .obj. Right?

Quote - Of course the face room is more than just geometry. It is also texture.

Yeah, at least judging from Phil's page about Face Putty, it looks really cool but not as powerful as the Face Room.

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EClark1894 ( ) posted Tue, 25 October 2011 at 10:45 AM

Quote - > Quote - Is there some way to ask SM to create the files for her?

IIRC, Anton had to pay to get Face Room support for Apollo.  It can't hurt to ask, but I wouldn't expect them to do it.  :sad:  From what I've read, setting up a figure for Face Room compatibility is a rather involved and expensive process.  (And, of course, I don't remember where I read these things....  :blushing:)

Hmm, well, if that's the case, then as powerful as the Face Room may be, if it will only work on the included Poser figures and Miki, then it's use is rather limited. I had always assumed that the data files could be generated by the creators of third party figures.




bagoas ( ) posted Tue, 25 October 2011 at 11:56 AM

Quote - Surely not, but I wouldn't think that's how you would distribute the morph anyway. I haven't used it (don't own the Poser Toolbox), but my assumption is that you would use the Face Putty, then export the head as a morph .obj. Right?

Quote - Of course you can distribute the morphs you made, but I was thinking about the cage as a tool. After the script has generated the cage and the magnets, operation is just Poser push'n pull of objects. There are some supporting scripted commands. I admit I have not used it for a while.


jartz ( ) posted Tue, 25 October 2011 at 4:02 PM

Quote -
I have posted a freebie to Antonia's Free Site "Dial-A-Nose_AP". A set of 25 nose morphs for Antonia 1.2 (Hi Res) or previous. Some are realistic (I hope), some fantasy. You can cycle through the morphs via one a dial in the Body. Packaged as a PMD injection. Requires P6 or above. The animation above shows 10 of the morphs.

 

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Eric Walters ( ) posted Tue, 25 October 2011 at 11:12 PM

  Antonia just keeps getting better!



EnglishBob ( ) posted Thu, 27 October 2011 at 5:03 AM

Quote - ...great to have options for one of Antonia's more... errr... prominent? features. 😄

Yes indeed - thanks for Dial-a-Schnozz, Les (and apologies to non-Brit forum members who won't know what a schnozz is - but can probably now take a guess). I'm developing a character for a writing project, and one of her more prominent features is her nose. I'd started with V4, but I may try to transfer her to Antonia instead, since I think I'll get better results for less memory usage. This addition will be a great help with that.

(Note to self: convert V4 texture to V3 with Texture Convertor, then use the V3 mapped Toni...)


SaintFox ( ) posted Thu, 27 October 2011 at 5:32 AM

Thanks a lot for another body-part-dialer, Les, you know how I like these tools. I may be one of the few but so far I've been happy with Antonia's nose as I find it hard to make something for an adult women from the tiny child-noses many 3D-figures have (and don't let me get started about what is called button nose - this is simply ugly for adult people IMHO). It's always easier to shape a part that is a bit larger than creating something decent from a tiny bit.

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estherau ( ) posted Thu, 27 October 2011 at 6:05 AM

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It's always easier to shape a part that is a bit larger than creating something decent from a tiny bit."

plastic surgeons feel the same way when they make those cute little button noses.

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JenX ( ) posted Thu, 27 October 2011 at 6:30 AM

I think any non-Brit who's ever watched Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory'll get what a schnozz is ;)  

The schnozzberries taste like schnozzberries.....

 

That line always grossed me out :P

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EnglishBob ( ) posted Thu, 27 October 2011 at 7:04 AM

No need for a language advisory, then. ;-) It was a choice between "schnozz" or "conk", and I admit I was trying to be obscure. :P


JenX ( ) posted Thu, 27 October 2011 at 7:31 AM

Oh, the language advisory is only for when you're swearing ;)  You're good either way :)

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SteveJax ( ) posted Thu, 27 October 2011 at 8:14 AM

Quote - I think any non-Brit who's ever watched Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory'll get what a schnozz is ;)  

The schnozzberries taste like schnozzberries.....

That line always grossed me out :P

Anyone familiar with Jimmy Durante will know what a Schnozz is. He was famous for his!


EClark1894 ( ) posted Thu, 27 October 2011 at 8:34 AM

Quote - > Quote - ...great to have options for one of Antonia's more... errr... prominent? features. 😄

Yes indeed - thanks for Dial-a-Schnozz, Les (and apologies to non-Brit forum members who won't know what a schnozz is - but can probably now take a guess). I'm developing a character for a writing project, and one of her more prominent features is her nose. I'd started with V4, but I may try to transfer her to Antonia instead, since I think I'll get better results for less memory usage. This addition will be a great help with that.

Let me guess her name... Cyrana de Bergerac!  :lol:




WandW ( ) posted Thu, 27 October 2011 at 11:10 AM · edited Thu, 27 October 2011 at 11:11 AM

I just brought Genesis into Poser, and discovered her rigging seems familiar, with a Hip and Pelvis actor; equivalent to Antonia's Hip and Waist!! :biggrin:

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EClark1894 ( ) posted Thu, 27 October 2011 at 11:27 AM

Actually, Alyson 2 has a hip and Pelvis actor as well.




Cage ( ) posted Thu, 27 October 2011 at 11:33 AM

IIRC, one of odf's stated goals has been to get the professional content providers to raise their game, through Antonia's example.  Perhaps that's working.  :thumbupboth:

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Jules53757 ( ) posted Thu, 27 October 2011 at 11:52 AM

Also a lot of techniques inside of Apollo have moved into figures that came a little bit later to the market.


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Spanki ( ) posted Thu, 27 October 2011 at 1:23 PM

Quote - ...then use the V3 mapped Toni...)

Does anyone have a handy link for that?

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Spanki ( ) posted Thu, 27 October 2011 at 1:29 PM

...nevermind - I found it on the home/development page.

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Spanki ( ) posted Fri, 28 October 2011 at 1:42 PM · edited Fri, 28 October 2011 at 1:42 PM

Hmmm... the V3-remap is 'nice', but has some problems (note: doing a remap like this is a ton of work and very tedious - so I mean no disrespect for all the work dph did with this!)...

  • some 'coloring outside the lines' :) (uv-vert positions outside/larger than V3's - and thus outside the texture in some cases)
  • the UVs on the hi-res figure did not have Catmull-Clark smoothing applied when sub-divided (each 'new' sub-divided uv-vert is in a straight-line between the parent verts, instead of falling on a curve between them).
  • some general distortion in some areas

...I think I'm going to take a stab at remapping it (I'll let you know when I'm done if anyone's interested).

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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Fri, 28 October 2011 at 1:50 PM

If you're gonna do that, might as well make it for V4? Boldly asking too much

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Spanki ( ) posted Fri, 28 October 2011 at 1:59 PM

I'm currently / specifically looking for V3 at the moment (so I can use Morris' excellent texture), but I'll consider doing a V4 remap afterwards.

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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Fri, 28 October 2011 at 2:46 PM

Nah, too much work, I didn't think you needed a specific V3 remap ^^

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GeneralNutt ( ) posted Fri, 28 October 2011 at 4:04 PM

Oh a v4 map you say, that would be very handy indeed. Now I best leave this thread and clean the drool off my keyboard.



lesbentley ( ) posted Fri, 28 October 2011 at 7:25 PM

Quote - ...I think I'm going to take a stab at remapping it (I'll let you know when I'm done if anyone's interested).

Yes. Please keep us informed on your progress.


Believable3D ( ) posted Fri, 28 October 2011 at 8:23 PM

I think the V3 remap was DPHoadley's. IIRC, he claims that V3's UVs are far superior to V4's. (I wouldn't know - this is DEFINITELY not my field.)

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lesbentley ( ) posted Sun, 30 October 2011 at 11:45 PM

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I have been working on another set of conforming earrings for Antonia. The last set was something of a disaster, and I had to make several changes to the first published version before it worked (and I'm still not 100% sure it is working correctly for others). So this time I have decided to be prudent and call for testers, before releasing it to the general public.

This set is called "Cherry_Rings_AP", and like the previous "RingsLL" set, features pseudo-gravity and alternate geometries. If you would be interested in testing the earrings, please send me an internal message with an email address where I can send the zip.

As this will be a freebie, you don't actually gain much by being a tester, except you get your hands on it before anyone else, and a chance to give feedback on anything you feel should be changed.


lesbentley ( ) posted Mon, 31 October 2011 at 12:28 AM

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Like the RingsLL figure, the Cherry_Rings_AP is something of an experiment, and a rather unusual way to implement earrings. It places all the controls for posing the rings and changing the geometry in the BODY actor. The figure consists of 15 actors in total, but only the BODY is selectable in the document window, or visible in the menus. Hiding most of the actors from selection has obvious advantages for a conforming figure, you don't accidentally select part of the conformer when you are trying to select part of the character. On the other hand this certainly won't suit people who's main style of working is to to use the mouse cursor in the Document Window. That style of working directly with the cursor and Editing Tools in the Document Window is something that is often disparaged, but I find it is something that I am doing much more of these days.

Anyway, I would be very interested to hear your opinions on all of this.

I should add that whilst the Cherry_Rings must always remain a freebie, I very much encourage you to distribute modified versions by replacing the geometry with your own geometry files. Also the prohibition on selling the actual files in the distribution is in no way meant to discourage you from using the same techniques in commercial products of your own.


SaintFox ( ) posted Mon, 31 October 2011 at 1:29 AM

Awwww.... these are sweeeeet, Les! If there are no other testers at the moment I am able to test them on Tuesday - All Hollows Day around here and so I have some spare time. But I will not complain if someone is faster as my day is filled up with work to the max today.

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EnglishBob ( ) posted Mon, 31 October 2011 at 7:26 AM

Quote - I'm still not 100% sure [the last set] is working correctly for others

I've used the hoops in a series of images,  once the bugs had been ironed out, and they worked fine. The gravity feature was a great help.

Looking forward to the new set. I can't positively promise testing time, but I'll do my best to have a look at them if that sort of off-hand commitment is good enough for you :). 


lesbentley ( ) posted Mon, 31 October 2011 at 3:18 PM

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Thanks SaintFox and EnglishBob. I have sent the zip to each of you, if you get a chance to test it, great. If not, on big deal. Thalek has also said he will test it.

The image above shows some unrendered preview shots of the ring with different pendant and chain geometries.


Faery_Light ( ) posted Mon, 31 October 2011 at 3:54 PM
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Les, those are very nice.

Looking forward to when they're ready to release. :)


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shante ( ) posted Mon, 31 October 2011 at 5:47 PM

Been lurking. Would love to get some ethnic textures asian and afro-american converted for Antonia. So if there are any conversions out there from say V3/V4 would love to get them.

I thought I had seen somewhere in the development of this sweet figure an Afro-American skin tex. I found a beautiful face mt for her on her site but no texture. Has anyone seen one somewhere?


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Mon, 31 October 2011 at 5:53 PM

Quote - Been lurking. Would love to get some ethnic textures asian and afro-american converted for Antonia. So if there are any conversions out there from say V3/V4 would love to get them.

Converted? Naw. First character I make for Antonia will be afro-american, with a dialed morph. Might take a while though, as I have other products that need to be finished and released first.

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Faery_Light ( ) posted Mon, 31 October 2011 at 5:58 PM
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I started one and had various shaders with it but they needed tweaking.

Let me check and see if it was finished as far as textures and if you want to fiddle with the shaders, I'll put it on the free site.


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shante ( ) posted Mon, 31 October 2011 at 6:02 PM

Quote - I started one and had various shaders with it but they needed tweaking.

Let me check and see if it was finished as far as textures and if you want to fiddle with the shaders, I'll put it on the free site.

 

Oh that would be great though i don't really know how to work with shaders yet....too advanced for me to figure out without a bottle of Advil and a punch bag to relieve the stresss brought on by clueless tinkering!  :(


Faery_Light ( ) posted Mon, 31 October 2011 at 6:08 PM
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I'm checking now and if the shaders look right,I'll add them to the sit.

Then all you'll need to do is download, install and  load them with one click. :)


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GeneralNutt ( ) posted Mon, 31 October 2011 at 7:28 PM

Les those earings look awesome! I love the way you allow the chain to bend.



Thalek ( ) posted Mon, 31 October 2011 at 10:08 PM

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I love the earrings, Les.  I don't know much about such things, but I think that making them into dynamic cloth would eliminate some of the problems of the pseudo-gravity, such as a lack of collision detection.

They're quite beautiful and fun to play with even as they are.


lesbentley ( ) posted Mon, 31 October 2011 at 10:35 PM

Quote - Les those earings look awesome! I love the way you allow the chain to bend.

Thanks GeneralNutt. I got to a point where I thought I had finished the rings, but had a nagging feeling that they were not really complete in some way. I realized what was missing was a way to bring a little life to the rings. The bending is via morphs, and only provides a slight bend. With the morphs applied at full strength there is a noticeable deformation of the link shape in a head and shoulders shot, but at half strength, or or in a torso shot, or an animation, the deformation is not really noticeable.

By the way folks, if you don't hear from my for a while, it's not because I'm ignoring you. It's because at the moment BT is providing me with the connection from hell. It can take hours, or sometimes even days to load a web page. Sometimes I get a brief window where the connection is normal, then it reverts back to being crap for many hours at a time. It's definitely not my PC, because the same thing happens to two other completely different computers, and at the same time. :cursing:

Any way, sorry for going off topic, but I really needed to vent.


Faery_Light ( ) posted Tue, 01 November 2011 at 1:54 AM
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Attached Link: BE4Kaylene_APG

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Shante, I finally uploaded the Kaylene set to the free site.

The various skin tones pictured in this image are in the pack. It is only a texture set, no morphs.

I promised this one some time ago but got distracted...lol.

 

 


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Pol ( ) posted Tue, 01 November 2011 at 2:07 AM

This is great, thanks.


lesbentley ( ) posted Tue, 01 November 2011 at 2:11 AM · edited Tue, 01 November 2011 at 2:11 AM

Oooo, that looks very interesting. Thanks BluEcho! 👍


Thalek ( ) posted Tue, 01 November 2011 at 2:47 AM

Pretty!


SteveJax ( ) posted Tue, 01 November 2011 at 4:21 AM

Nice work as usual BluEcho.


shante ( ) posted Tue, 01 November 2011 at 7:28 AM

Quote - Shante, I finally uploaded the Kaylene set to the free site.

The various skin tones pictured in this image are in the pack. It is only a texture set, no morphs.

I promised this one some time ago but got distracted...lol.

 

 

Oh!!!!!!!

I think I just wet my pants!?

Whew...no....just spilled my coffee.  LOL

Oh thanks so much. I am taking them down now.

I knew I saw something like this some time ago. Glad I wasn't Hell-lucinating!   ;)

 

 


lkendall ( ) posted Tue, 01 November 2011 at 12:59 PM

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BluEcho:

Thanks! This is great!

lmk

Probably edited for spelling, grammer, punctuation, or typos.


Faery_Light ( ) posted Tue, 01 November 2011 at 1:15 PM
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This is the one I started before the last two updates on APG. All I had to do was make sure the mc6 files and the pz2 worked on the latest model.

If any of you want to play around with those shader settings, feel free to do so and have fun. :)

 


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Faery_Light ( ) posted Tue, 01 November 2011 at 2:55 PM
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There were a couple of errors in the file so Ii will fix and re-upload it this evening.

But for those who may have already downloaded it, the missing eye texture is uploaded as a separate file.

And for the png that doesn't show in th epose folder, just rename the pz2 file to match the existing png.

Sorry for the problems. 😊


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Files now referencing to Danika eyestransparancey.

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