"Making Models With Wings3D" - a tutorial by Dr Geep

geep ( ) posted Wed, 07 December 2011 at 4:34 PM · edited Fri, 22 November 2024 at 1:09 AM

Attached Link: CLICK HERE to download Wings3D

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Have you ever thought, "Gee, I sure would like to make my own model using something from Poser and modifying it the way I want." :blink:

Well, wonder no more. Ol' Doc Geep's gonna show you how we can modify a model from Poser using "Wings3D" (a free modeling program).
(Note - Use the Attached LInk: (above) to download a free copy of Wings3D)

This is a SPECIAL EDITION for "rokket."

Stay tuned right here and we'll get started just as soon as I can figure out how to do it. :lol:

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

**P.S. Questions are always welcome so don't be bashful. :blink:
**

**There are no dumb questions ... :huh:
**

... only (sometimes) dumb answers.

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 07 December 2011 at 8:18 PM

Awwww. I'm blushing!

And I can't wait to see this...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

geep ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2011 at 6:31 AM

First, we select our model ... then we use the Grouping Tool to make a New Group with all the polygons in the area to be used for the mini-skirt.

Next, we Create Prop (in the Group Editor) using the selected (red) polygons.

Then, we're ready to export the New Prop using the Wavefront OBJ... Export function.

Now we can Import the New Prop into Wings3D to create our mini-skirt for Fiona.

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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nobodyinparticular ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2011 at 8:22 AM

Looking forward to this. Thank you.

geep ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2011 at 11:07 AM · edited Thu, 08 December 2011 at 11:08 AM

Attached Link: CLICK HERE to download a copy of Wings3D ... It's FREE ! - ;=]

Now we can Export the "Mini1" object from Poser and then ...

... Import it into Wings3D so we can modify it to make a miniskirt for Fiona.

We'd better hurry ... she's getting cold.

If you don't have Wings3D ... download a FREE copy from www.wings.com.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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rokket ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2011 at 11:18 AM

I am with you so far... I have gotten this far with Sydney's mesh, but I did it differently. I think your method would work better...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

geep ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2011 at 12:17 PM

Poser's scale is quite small compared to Wings3d's scale so let's use Wings Impot (and Export) Options to increase the scale of the Mini1 object by 10 times when we Import it and then reduce it back down to 10% when we Export it from Wings. Now we can Import it back into Poser and it will be the same scale (size) as when we Exported it from Poser.

Ok? ... Ok .... Don't understand it? Don't worry, just change the Import & Export scales and it'll work just fine.

Got it loaded? ... Uh oh ... where is it? Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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KimberlyC ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2011 at 10:29 PM · edited Thu, 08 December 2011 at 10:30 PM

Awesome! Can't wait to see the rest.

_____________________
.::That which does not kill us makes us stronger::.
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grichter ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2011 at 10:49 PM

"Got it loaded? ... Uh oh ... where is it? Next ..."

I hear Mr. Naysay is good at chasing skirts. :laugh:

I just downloaded Blender for OSX to give it a go. Now going to watch the Good Doctor see what he shows us about Wings. Hope this tut really takes off and flys!

Gary

"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"

geep ( ) posted Fri, 09 December 2011 at 4:29 AM · edited Fri, 09 December 2011 at 4:32 AM

We aim to please ................. You can aim*, too ... *please*. :lol:

We can't modify it if we can't see it so ...

First, we locate ... then we modify ... :biggrin:

Use the "A" key

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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rokket ( ) posted Fri, 09 December 2011 at 10:11 AM

I am definitely with you so far! We are getting to the good part now... :woot:

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

geep ( ) posted Fri, 09 December 2011 at 11:23 AM · edited Fri, 09 December 2011 at 11:24 AM

Rather than trying to modify the existing mesh ...

... It will be easier to just SELECT some of the mesh and then ...

... ... REMOVE it ... Next ...

**BUT - DO NOT ... I repeat ... DO NOT REMOVE anything ..... yet!

**

Then we can create some new faces where we want them ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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geep ( ) posted Fri, 09 December 2011 at 1:25 PM

Having "Tweak Trouble?"

Tweak mode is very useful for modifying a mesh but ...

... it may cause a problem when trying to select vertices, edges, or faces.

So, let's turn it OFF for now. We will use it later.

Now ... Back to the show ... Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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geep ( ) posted Fri, 09 December 2011 at 2:30 PM

Here's the ".Hole." truth.

If you missed a few faces ...
... Just (re) select them and use the .Hole. function again.

Now we can start with the (re) construction on the miniskirt for Fiona.

Now, let's learn how to ...
... Add new Vertices, Edges, and Faces. ... Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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rokket ( ) posted Fri, 09 December 2011 at 7:19 PM

And finally, here is the step I have been waiting for!

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

geep ( ) posted Fri, 09 December 2011 at 7:21 PM

Quote - And finally, here is the step I have been waiting for!

And it only took 8 pages ... :lol:

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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geep ( ) posted Fri, 09 December 2011 at 8:55 PM

Ok sportsfans, here is where we create some new edges and faces.

Pretty exciting, huh?! :lol:

This should complete our miniskirt, right? :blink:

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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rokket ( ) posted Fri, 09 December 2011 at 10:21 PM

I don't think it's done... it won't fit the model like this, right?

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

geep ( ) posted Fri, 09 December 2011 at 10:41 PM · edited Fri, 09 December 2011 at 10:43 PM

Correct ... Give that man a GOLD STAR !

... I was just checking to see if anyone was paying attention. :biggrin:

Making the model fit correctly ... Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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rokket ( ) posted Fri, 09 December 2011 at 11:41 PM

I am going to play with this on a much higher poly count model...

Uh... after I finish my space craft...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

geep ( ) posted Fri, 09 December 2011 at 11:48 PM

Add (complete) the center line on the front and back.

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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geep ( ) posted Sat, 10 December 2011 at 12:29 AM

Beware the hidden edges (and vertex(es)) ...

Here's one way to help locate it/them and how to fix it/them.

Now let's get Fiona (or part of her) into Wings and see how we can make the miniskirt fit properly. ... Next ...

Questions? ... :blink:

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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rokket ( ) posted Sat, 10 December 2011 at 8:00 AM

I gave it a shot with Sydney's mesh, but I goofed up and didn't take out enough of the leg and hip. The edges were facing inward, so connect didn't work. I'll try it again later and let you know if I catch up to you in this tut, doc.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

rokket ( ) posted Sun, 11 December 2011 at 6:42 AM

Doc???

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

geep ( ) posted Sun, 11 December 2011 at 7:45 AM

Yes, what can I do for you? :blink:

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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geep ( ) posted Sun, 11 December 2011 at 9:03 AM

It's a Material world ... in Wings ... and in Poser.

Let's color our miniskirt ... Here's how.

Now ... Let's go back to Poser and make ...
... a dressform that we can use in Wings to refine our miniskirt.

Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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rokket ( ) posted Sun, 11 December 2011 at 10:19 AM

I thought I'd lost ya! It's been a day or two since you posted. I guess you do have a life outside of this, huh? Hahaha..

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

geep ( ) posted Sun, 11 December 2011 at 10:22 AM

@ rokket ... Yup.

Make your dressform and then let's go back into Wings. :biggrin:

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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grichter ( ) posted Sun, 11 December 2011 at 1:57 PM

Question: Back on tut page 9. you selected the edges first and then went into vertex mode and asked why you did this. Was this done to make sure you only ended up with the correct-target points you wanted and didn't add any strays or some other reason?

Gary

"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"

geep ( ) posted Sun, 11 December 2011 at 2:36 PM · edited Sun, 11 December 2011 at 2:39 PM

Hi Gary,

Yes, you are correct. It is easier to see (and thus get the correct ones selected) ...
... edges than it is to see vertices and whether or not they are selected.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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grichter ( ) posted Sun, 11 December 2011 at 3:37 PM

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question! Recently started looking for a simplier interfaced modeler to do simple tasks. Will now give Wings a peek.

Gary

"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"

geep ( ) posted Sun, 11 December 2011 at 4:46 PM

Attached Link: "Wings 101" tutorial by Dr Geep

Hi Gary,

Then you might be interested in this tut.
(click da link)

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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nobodyinparticular ( ) posted Sun, 11 December 2011 at 4:55 PM

Thank you for this. When I get time, I'll work on it. Hope to make scrubs for Antonia. Work is in the way now. I'll check out the Wings tutorial first. Can't thank you enough.

geep ( ) posted Sun, 11 December 2011 at 6:32 PM · edited Sun, 11 December 2011 at 6:33 PM

Quote - Thank you for this. When I get time, I'll work on it. Hope to make scrubs for Antonia. Work is in the way now. I'll check out the Wings tutorial first. Can't thank you enough.

You just did and ...
... you're quite welcome.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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grichter ( ) posted Sun, 11 December 2011 at 10:31 PM

Oh no not another fourm to join :laugh:

Next question. Poser Tut's! Wings Tut's!....do you ever sleep?

thanks for the link to the wings tut

Gary

"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"

geep ( ) posted Mon, 12 December 2011 at 8:25 AM

@Gary re: sleep? ... Yes, occasionally. :lol:

Export the "Mini1dressform" from Poser and then ...

Import "Mini1dressform.obj" into Wings ...

Then use one of Wings orthographic cameras to view from the FRONT and then move Mini1dressform so it is located in the center of all 3 axes, X, Y, and Z.

Did you forget to apply some color in Poser's Material Room before you exported the Mini1dressform object? :blink:

... No problem ... let's see how we can do it in Wings.

Wings Material ... Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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geep ( ) posted Mon, 12 December 2011 at 11:19 AM

Uh oh ... Can you guess who is going to help us? :lol:

Creating new Material in Wings is easy ... when you know how. :biggrin:

Create material for the dressform and then we'll see how to APPLY it. :smile

Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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geep ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2011 at 9:12 AM

Let's apply (assign) color to our Mini1dressform so it will be easier to see where the miniskirt is not fitted properly.

Next ... to Tweak or not to Tweak ... ... Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2011 at 8:16 AM

The anticipation is killing me! :biggrin:

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

geep ( ) posted Thu, 15 December 2011 at 10:43 AM

Ok, lets put the skirt on the dressform and get ready to "tweak" it so it fits properly.

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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MistyLaraCarrara ( ) posted Thu, 15 December 2011 at 1:03 PM

Dr Geep. NaySayGuy is crying.

I never understood the mirroring/break thing. Like editing one side of the skirt to fit and the other side will mirror? if that is even possible?

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geep ( ) posted Thu, 15 December 2011 at 2:15 PM · edited Thu, 15 December 2011 at 2:18 PM

re: da NaySayGuy crying ... why? :blink:
(ref: Page 15 - because it's not on his menu ... so he must have something selected)

"I never understood the mirroring/break thing. Like editing one side of the skirt to fit and the other side will mirror? if that is even possible?"

>>> Yes but it's 7 years bad luck if you break it. :lol:*

Mirror? ... . Yes, it's easy ... well ... when you know how, it's easy.

We will do that next ... since you asked. :biggrin:

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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MistyLaraCarrara ( ) posted Thu, 15 December 2011 at 2:21 PM

so easy it's a breeze? thanks!

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rokket ( ) posted Thu, 15 December 2011 at 7:22 PM

Mirrors!!!!!!

Good to know when you are creating a complicated mesh like a person, so that you get symmetry throughout the model.... nice....

I can't wait for that.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

geep ( ) posted Fri, 16 December 2011 at 2:34 PM

Let's make a copy of the Mini1skirt so we can "play" with it.

And ...
If we totally screw it up :scared: ... no problem ... just delete it and make another copy.

Cool, no?! :biggrin:

Let's DO IT and then see how Wings ".Mirror." function works ... Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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geep ( ) posted Fri, 16 December 2011 at 7:59 PM · edited Fri, 16 December 2011 at 8:00 PM

Mirror, mirror, on the ... ***WHAT?*** ... **Menu?**

**Yes !!!**

I told you it was easy ... :biggrin:

Now, let's do a little ... surgery ??? :scared: ... Next ...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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NaySayGuy ( ) posted Fri, 16 December 2011 at 8:04 PM

HAY ! Serjeree? Yuze beter cut dat out doc, ha ha.

geep ( ) posted Sat, 17 December 2011 at 5:19 AM · edited Sat, 17 December 2011 at 5:21 AM

The "Loop" and the "Cut" ... a couple of neato tricks in Wings.

Now, let's get back to our skirt and apply what we have learned, ok? ... Ok. :biggrin:

Symmetry and the skirt ... **Next ...
**

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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NaySayGuy ( ) posted Sat, 17 December 2011 at 5:36 AM · edited Sat, 17 December 2011 at 5:37 AM

HAY dat simatree? Ain't dat whar dey berry da ded guyz ha ha?

Osper ( ) posted Mon, 19 December 2011 at 2:07 PM

Gotta love NaySayGuy...........! He's right on top of this stuff!

PrecisionXXX ( ) posted Mon, 19 December 2011 at 10:20 PM

I hate to be the thorn in the side or the pain somewhere else, but Wings 1.4 does no longer have a true mirror function, although I swear I saw it in older versions. Meaning, do half a head, say the left side, select, hit "Mirror", and the right side would appear. And I'll swear Wings used to do that. IIRC, the popup used to give a choice of "Mirror" or "Mirror and create new object."

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

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