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Subject: We all need to just RELAX


hornet3d ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 4:02 PM
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Although I have been buying from Renderosity for some years I only really started to get interested in the forums earlier this year.  I have learnt a great deal from reading the threads even the discussions on different methods of doing things.  It allowed me to go away and play with some of the suggestions and decide which worked for me and those that did not.  I quickly duscovered the people that posted on a regular basis and I found many I respected both for their knowledge and their willingness to share information with others.

Everything was good and I found enjoyment in the time spent reading but in the last few months I have found more and more threads where I decide I will ignore them because I find the personal attacks depress me.  I will admit to being biased in that I have never had much time for the 'mine is bigger than yours' debates that appear in almost all hobbies and other aspects of life.

So for the last few months I have spent more time in Poser and less in the forums, hoping that it would all pass over and believeing that I could not get any worse.  Now on one of my visits I am dismayed to find some of the people whose input I have valued and respected from the start begin to question thelr continuing input.  So I was wrong and I have to accept it has got worse.

I doubt anything I say can change the the path the forums take in 2012 and my continued interest is in the hands of others.  I would however like to make a couple of comments .

  1. The wrong people appear to be leaving.

  2. As someone being old enough to be semi-retired I want my own time to be spent in a way that pleases me.

  3. At my age the last thing I want to do is grow up I enjoying playing with my toys far too much and as long as everyone else is enjoying their toys a really don't care what they are playing with (but I might want to have a go myself)

I do hope that in 2012 I find that there are others that feel like me, or if not, we can find a way to communicate with each other in a way that benefits us both

 

  

 

 

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LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 4:05 PM

Quote - Wasn't talking to anyone in particular, just wanted to mention it so no one missed it. I missed the last big sale because I didn't pay attention to the expiration date, heh.  :P

OHHHH...I was gonna say....what were we talking about? LOL.

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SnowSultan ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 4:09 PM

Haha, sorry. The more I look through Designfera's store, the more I want now (and that sale ends tonight).

Buying stuff and trying to put it to use is a good way to relax too.  :)

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I do not speak as a representative of DAZ, I speak only as a long-time member here. Be nice (and quit lying about DAZ) and I'll be nice too.


basicwiz ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 4:40 PM

Am I the only one that didn't get this latest coupon? I'm supposed to be subscribed to the newsletter! :(


LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 4:52 PM

I didn't get it. But then, I don't get any newsletters. From anywhere...lol. :P I'm still not certain if SS was talking about a sale here, Daz or elsewhere.

Laurie



manleystanley ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 5:02 PM

Being a carrarest I'm not sure if I am stuck in the middle or standing out side :lol:

Carrara is owned by DAZ but uses/works with Poser content in a Poser runtime. 

Should I be arguing with myself or arguing with both sides?

I can use genesis, but I can't use simmon or sydny.

I'd like to check out anistasia but I dought she works in Carrara.  I've got Genesis but never use it.

I'm ssooooooo confused. 


SnowSultan ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 5:14 PM

Here of course.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/vendor/designfera (half off today).

 

Not sure why you didn't get a newsletter, I almost always get mine very late.  The latest one is called "Sky High Savings" and has a 20% off coupon in it.

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I do not speak as a representative of DAZ, I speak only as a long-time member here. Be nice (and quit lying about DAZ) and I'll be nice too.


LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 5:22 PM

Those backgrounds ARE nice ;).

Oh, and it's nice to see everyone relaxing....lol :P

Laurie



LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 5:24 PM · edited Wed, 28 December 2011 at 5:25 PM

Quote - Being a carrarest I'm not sure if I am stuck in the middle or standing out side :lol:

Carrara is owned by DAZ but uses/works with Poser content in a Poser runtime. 

Should I be arguing with myself or arguing with both sides?

I can use genesis, but I can't use simmon or sydny.

I'd like to check out anistasia but I dought she works in Carrara.  I've got Genesis but never use it.

I'm ssooooooo confused. 

Anastasia "might" work in Carrara I'm thinking. The original model is weight mapped and I'm not sure Carrara can use that as it is anyway. But Gabe says he and Deecey found a way to add the morph to Alyson 1, which is a standard rigged version. You may be able to use that, no? ;). I don't think he's released that version as yet tho. Probably soon.

Laurie



kawecki ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 5:29 PM

There are nice 3dsMax and Maya models, Final Fantasy was done in Maya, Shrek was done in Renderman, but none of them woks in Poser or DazStudio !!!!

Stupidity also evolves!


LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 5:35 PM · edited Wed, 28 December 2011 at 5:37 PM

and who mentioned 3D Studio Max OR Maya? Now I'm confused. Or maybe you're just trying to be cute, which is sailing right over my head. Sorry, don't get it.

Laurie



SamTherapy ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 5:41 PM · edited Wed, 28 December 2011 at 5:50 PM

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I thought of another addition to the ignore function... You ge

I can't be arsed to type the rest of it in.  Something ate the rest of me post.

:( 

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FrankT ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 5:43 PM

and people wonder why I want an ignore button ????? (Not aimed at Laurie btw in case anyone is wondering)

@hornet3d, I feel very similar actually - I used to spend a lot of time in the Poser forums even though I only use it as a staging platform for other apps but with all the b*tching, infighting and peen-o-copters (thanks Billie-the-Jean at DeviantArt for that :biggrin: ) I find it less and less fun to be in here

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kawecki ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 5:52 PM

Quote - and who mentioned 3D Studio Max OR Maya? Now I'm confused. Or maybe you're just trying to be cute, which is sailing right over my head. Sorry, don't get it.

Laurie

Any difference with Poser and DazStudio not be compatible with some figures ?

 

PS. The ignore button can be useful and very funny.

Stupidity also evolves!


kawecki ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 5:53 PM

I want a ignore button where I can turn on and off all what I have ignored

Stupidity also evolves!


LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 6:30 PM · edited Wed, 28 December 2011 at 6:34 PM

An ignore button isn't to turn off threads!. It's to turn off PEOPLE...lol. I'm thinking once someone flips the switch they won't likely turn it back again anytime soon...lol. Threads are easy. Unsubscribe ;).

Laurie



kawecki ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 6:37 PM · edited Wed, 28 December 2011 at 6:41 PM

With the "ignore button" I can return to discuss gamma correction with no more problems, I only have to add "some guys" to my ignore list, of course these guys can do the same with me, and so I shall not have to waste my time reading their posts and arguing with them

Stupidity also evolves!


LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 6:49 PM

Sooo true Kawecki....soooooo true.

Laurie



ima70 ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 7:40 PM

Subject: We all need to just RELAX

 

This is a funny community LOL


scanmead ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 7:41 PM

Ignore button. Some sites have it, but then you see (name) post hidden, click to view... and of course I get curious and have to click. So it's not so much an ignore button, as a "how much self-control do you have?" button.

I have a question. Do contractors have all these issues with tools and where they're bought? I mean, if you use Craftsman vs Ryobi, are the results of your work seen as less acceptable? And if you bought your tools in a mall rather than a manly box store, do the other guys laugh at you? Should home buyers be told what brand tools were used in the construction?  And did that company use iPhones, Androids, or Blackberries? Just how far has this permeated through society?


Vestmann ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 7:46 PM

Ok. I obviously misunderstood the concept of the ignore button.  I thought it was like the dislike button on youtube.




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SnowSultan ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 8:12 PM

"I have a question. Do contractors have all these issues with tools and where they're bought?"

 

That's actually one issue that Poser and DAZ Studio users do not have with each other, only the 'elitists' who look down on 3D hobbyists. Even in the most heated discussions we have in the community, I've never heard anyone from either side say that someone's art isn't as good because of the program they use (which is good because both programs can create pretty much exactly the same type of art).

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I do not speak as a representative of DAZ, I speak only as a long-time member here. Be nice (and quit lying about DAZ) and I'll be nice too.


LaurieA ( ) posted Wed, 28 December 2011 at 9:00 PM

Quote - "I have a question. Do contractors have all these issues with tools and where they're bought?"

 

That's actually one issue that Poser and DAZ Studio users do not have with each other, only the 'elitists' who look down on 3D hobbyists. Even in the most heated discussions we have in the community, I've never heard anyone from either side say that someone's art isn't as good because of the program they use (which is good because both programs can create pretty much exactly the same type of art).

Yep, yep....

Laurie



SamTherapy ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 7:29 AM

As I said before, unless you use Stanley and Draper, you're an idiot.  

Power tools, though, only Bosch will do.  Forget about those amateur DeWalt, B&D, Makita toys. 

 Traditional art?  Well, you absolutely have to use Mars Lumograph pencils and erasers.  For paints and inks, Windsor and Newton.  Brushes have to be Daler.  Coloured pencils should be either Derwent or Staedtler.

Anything else and it's plain you don't have a clue about what you're doing.

Don't even get me started on Music or Photography. 

;) 

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Ragtopjohnny ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 10:00 AM

Gee Laurie, it kind of reminds me about the X-Plane versus Microsoft FSX Battles we have on our other forums that I go to.  

Its hard to believe that even in this type of community that goes on here as well. 

I agree, lets just use what we use, and let everyone get the enjoyment out of what they like.  

 

 

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Vestmann ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 11:54 AM

Quote - As I said before, unless you use Stanley and Draper, you're an idiot.  

Power tools, though, only Bosch will do.  Forget about those amateur DeWalt, B&D, Makita toys. 

 Traditional art?  Well, you absolutely have to use Mars Lumograph pencils and erasers.  For paints and inks, Windsor and Newton.  Brushes have to be Daler.  Coloured pencils should be either Derwent or Staedtler.

Anything else and it's plain you don't have a clue about what you're doing.

Don't even get me started on Music or Photography. 

;) 

Well, we all know there's NO WAY to do any kind of 'real' design or music production without using one of Apple's latest iToys.  Anything else would be extremely amateurish and uncool! ;)




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MistyLaraCarrara ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 11:57 AM

may i book an aromatherapy session for today?  😄

maybe an herbal high colonic too :lol:



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LaurieA ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 12:07 PM

Geeze...you missed the free enemas....lmao

Laurie



Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 12:30 PM

Quote - Gee Laurie, it kind of reminds me about the X-Plane versus Microsoft FSX Battles we have on our other forums that I go to.

 

everyone knows it's IL2-1946 that rules!



Ragtopjohnny ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 1:21 PM

Quote - > Quote - Gee Laurie, it kind of reminds me about the X-Plane versus Microsoft FSX Battles we have on our other forums that I go to.

 

everyone knows it's IL2-1946 that rules!

LOL!  Have yet to try it -- 😄  One of these days 😄

 

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Eric Walters ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 1:51 PM

 

 Jonathan Swift wrote a satire-centuries ago- about a war between little and big "endians."

One kingdom cracked soft boiled eggs from the large end- the other from the small end.

You can see why they HAD to go to war!

 



scanmead ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 3:08 PM

Quote - As I said before, unless you use Stanley and Draper, you're an idiot.  

Power tools, though, only Bosch will do.  Forget about those amateur DeWalt, B&D, Makita toys. 

 Traditional art?  Well, you absolutely have to use Mars Lumograph pencils and erasers.  For paints and inks, Windsor and Newton.  Brushes have to be Daler.  Coloured pencils should be either Derwent or Staedtler.

Anything else and it's plain you don't have a clue about what you're doing.

Don't even get me started on Music or Photography. 

;) 

 

Ok... I have to get you started on photography, because I just ordered my first camera since the old Polaroid. Before that it was a Nikon 35mm. Shall we say it's been a while? Got the Canon ELPH on sale at Amazon, and not a clue if it's all right or not, or even what it can do, except stills and 1080p video. Gad, I've held a digital camera one time...


vilters ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 3:17 PM

Flight Sims???

www.freefalcon.com

That is as real as possible. :-)

For the rest ? Poser, naturally :-)

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FrankT ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 3:20 PM

oh man, not Nikon vs Canon !!!! in the name of sweet mercy not that!! (I loves me my Canon 60D :biggrin: )

Next it'll be primes vs zooms

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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 3:21 PM

Quote - Flight Sims???

www.freefalcon.com

That is as real as possible. :-)

For the rest ? Poser, naturally :-)

 

urgghh Jets no way... gimme Warbirds...



vilters ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 3:30 PM

See? To each his/her own.

I flew Props and Jets, so??
Low and slow, and high and fast. :-) Retired now. :-(
From Ultralight to F-16, loved them all.

Well 2 favorites: SF-260 and F-16.
You could forget the flying part and concentrate on the mission.

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 3:39 PM

Quote - oh man, not Nikon vs Canon !!!! in the name of sweet mercy not that!! (I loves me my Canon 60D :biggrin: )

Next it'll be primes vs zooms

Canon used to make great cameras until they started building to a price rather than a spec. For my money there's really only Olympus in the DSLR stakes now. Shame Minolta never made the transition.

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kawecki ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 3:45 PM

No cat pictures yet ?

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scanmead ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 4:07 PM

When I started out, I had (on loan) a Canon and a Nikon 35mm. I liked both. The Canon did seem a little more robust. The good news is that I'm so clueless about digital photography, that anything will seem good! Yay! Funny, I didn't see a "Kodachrome" setting on it though. ;)

Just wait a week or so, kawecki. I'll have cat pictures. LOL


Ragtopjohnny ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 5:38 PM

Quote - > Quote - Flight Sims???

www.freefalcon.com

That is as real as possible. :-)

For the rest ? Poser, naturally :-)

 

urgghh Jets no way... gimme Warbirds...

 

Registered for this site to find out what its all about -- seems intriguing to say the least 😄  Also, I'm a GA (General Aviation) Kind of guy in simming -- no airliners or anything like that.  Low and slow and take in all the sights 😄

 

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LaurieA ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 5:38 PM

Quote - No cat pictures yet ?

For what? No one's fighting. Unless you were aiming to start one ;).

Laurie



SamTherapy ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 5:54 PM

Fighting? Where? rolls up sleeves :)

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kawecki ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 6:04 PM

Quote - > Quote - No cat pictures yet ?

For what? No one's fighting. Unless you were aiming to start one ;).

Laurie

I have a Nazi cat

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LaurieA ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 6:10 PM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - No cat pictures yet ?

For what? No one's fighting. Unless you were aiming to start one ;).

Laurie

I have a Nazi cat

Alrighty then. There's cream for that.

Laurie



scanmead ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 6:41 PM

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Or at least an ointment...


LaurieA ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 6:49 PM

Quote - Or at least an ointment...

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Penguinisto ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 6:56 PM · edited Thu, 29 December 2011 at 7:00 PM

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Quote - It's always been that way in this community, since the very beginning.  PFO and all that.

Was kinda thinking the same thing... I mean, alt.flame in its heyday was a lot more entertaining, but otherwise it's not that much different. 

 

==

 

Quote - "Quote - "Excuse me, but a Forum Coordinator putting up a poster that refers to people of different abilities as retared{sic} is just SICK in any part of the world. I hope you are ashamed of yourself."

Argh! That meme had been around almost as long as TCP/IP has...

Not gonna say it... not gonna say it...

==

 

Quote - I'm not sure what Wolf meant, but he hit it on the head, fear. This is obviously a moment when big changes are here for our little world and people are understandably anxious. Some probably had long standing grudges against certain products/companies, others have new ones. The aired them - fine, they made suggestions - fine. And a few kept on and on and on. Even worse were the conspiracy theories, not the ones many of us love to indulge in, but ones that were provably false, and statements that directly contradicted not only the only official information we had, but the plainly visible facts

...can somebody bronze this? Please? 

==

Quote - Oh well...ponies and sunshine to you all.

Can't. Ponies (especially pink ones) were banned in early 2002. There's an outstanding rule to shoot them on sight around here.

==

Quote - Post reported (bet that it won't be removed).

Hey, Sam... got any of those suppositories in .45 ACP size? 

==

Quote - bah, you think DAZ vs Poser is bad. The Vi vs Emacs jihad made this look like a polite discussion at the vicars tea party.

Or Windows vs. Mac, Java vs. .NET, Left vs. Right (politics), or...

Besides, everyone with a brain knows that emacs sucks the rancid boils from a dead leper's ass.

==

FWIW, I have no kick against either camp. I happily use both, and honestly don't care. I find it hilarious that some folks will go out of their way to show the world just how cramped their rectums have gotten over DAZ, or over certain figures, or over whatever this or that forum does. 

Me, I'm totally relaxed (hence the uncontrollable habit of inserting jokes into such threads.) I find the whole thing humorous, really. Gives me the giggles at times. 

I do agree with one thing, though - put that energy into building something better. If I weren't in the middle of writing a book (and making a living, and spending time with the missus), I would've done quite a few months ago. Just one bit of advice on that, though - do it out of love for the craft, not out of spite for the Other. If you don't, you end up with a failing product and end up BS'ing everyone about it to cover for the failure. Well, that is until you finally implode online, making a mess for everyone to see. It's ugly, and such incidents should be mourned, not enjoyed.

 

 

 

 


SamTherapy ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 7:11 PM

Quote - Hey, Sam... got any of those suppositories in .45 ACP size? 

Yup, we've plenty in stock. :) > Quote - Just one bit of advice on that, though - do it out of love for the craft, not out of spite for the Other. If you don't, you end up with a failing product and end up BS'ing everyone about it to cover for the failure. Well, that is until you finally implode online, making a mess for everyone to see. It's ugly, and such incidents should be mourned, not enjoyed.

Gee, I just wonder who you mean there. ;)

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brynna ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 7:20 PM

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Quote - Canon used to make great cameras until they started building to a price rather than a spec. For my money there's really only Olympus in the DSLR stakes now. Shame Minolta never made the transition.

LOVE my Olympus E620, in fact. 😄

My "old" SLR was a Minolta 5000i and, to paraphrase my late Dad, it took "right purdy" photos. Nothing could beat it for concert photography. In many ways I still miss using it, but but got tired of dealing with film. Besides, trying to track down high-speed film that was worth a flip became almost impossible. Hence the transition (a year ago, mind you) to digital.

This all makes me wonder if the Kindle vs Nook crowds are bickering. Personally, I love my new Kindle, but my sister wants a Nook. Do I care? No. Did we argue over it at Christmas when I opened my present and found a Kindle inside of it? (my sons chipped in and got me one) No. They're both e-readers that are good at what they do -- just different platforms.

Like Android vs Apple vs Windows tablets/phones, etc. I've actually witnessed heated arguments over which is better. How silly can you get? More importantly, who gives a flying fuck?

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You're already falling
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LaurieA ( ) posted Thu, 29 December 2011 at 7:28 PM · edited Thu, 29 December 2011 at 7:30 PM

Quote - > Quote - Canon used to make great cameras until they started building to a price rather than a spec. For my money there's really only Olympus in the DSLR stakes now. Shame Minolta never made the transition.

LOVE my Olympus E620, in fact. 😄

My "old" SLR was a Minolta 5000i and, to paraphrase my late Dad, it took "right purdy" photos. Nothing could beat it for concert photography. In many ways I still miss using it, but but got tired of dealing with film. Besides, trying to track down high-speed film that was worth a flip became almost impossible. Hence the transition (a year ago, mind you) to digital.

This all makes me wonder if the Kindle vs Nook crowds are bickering. Personally, I love my new Kindle, but my sister wants a Nook. Do I care? No. Did we argue over it at Christmas when I opened my present and found a Kindle inside of it? (my sons chipped in and got me one) No. They're both e-readers that are good at what they do -- just different platforms.

Like Android vs Apple vs Windows tablets/phones, etc. I've actually witnessed heated arguments over which is better. How silly can you get? More importantly, who gives a flying fuck?

I have a Nook Color. I love it. Of course I rooted that sucker about 5 minutes after it arrived...lmao. I was respectful enough to look at the software it shipped with. For about a minute...lol.

Right now, it's all Android (Gingerbread). Where else was I gonna get a tablet for 129 bucks and free shipping? LOL

edit: btw, I think there's a CM7 mod for the Kindle Fire as well :P LOL

Laurie



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