Quote - > Quote - Seems like something has gone wrong with putting up the new website. They were supposed to go down by noon (yesterday) and be gone for a few hours..... I guess they miscalculated that a little.

 

They were talking about being up again Thursday morning, hopefully.

 24 hours seems to be what most people are looking at, so its a bit early to start saying they miscalculated.

Well, I think it's safe to say now that they miscalculated a little. I want to get a hold of 2 people through the DAZ forum message system, but I guess that has to wait a little longer. I do hope I can still get to my old message somehow after everything is done.

Interesting, remember that bit that DAZ used to show about a million plus members????

Well check this:-

Total Registered Members: 628553

Some slight miscalculation there!!!!!!

All the best.

LROG

Gee thats funny I get this 2112605, so where you getting your misinformation from, or is this on purpose because you have a personal grudge with them.

I think they were talking about number of Studio downloads, not number of members...

Total downloads: 2,245,325

http://download.cnet.com/DAZ-Studio/3000-6677_4-10717523.html

More on topic, the Forum is still read-only...

There's also still apparently an issue with their paypal integration.

Two orders placed yesterday are still showing pending and I'm unable to download anything from them.

Logging separately into my Paypal account it shows both payments as "pending".

I emailed cs@daz3d.com because I got a Google Apps mail system non-existent group error with the sales@daz3d.com address quoted on my order receipt email.

However no reply as yet...

Are other people still having a similar issue trying to buy stuff?

Cheers ;-)

Quote - There's also still apparently an issue with their paypal integration.

Two orders placed yesterday are still showing pending and I'm unable to download anything from them.

Logging separately into my Paypal account it shows both payments as "pending".

I emailed cs@daz3d.com because I got a Google Apps mail system non-existent group error with the sales@daz3d.com address quoted on my order receipt email.

However no reply as yet...

Are other people still having a similar issue trying to buy stuff?

Cheers ;-)

Don't know.  My wishlist gives me an error, and browsing the store takes a lot of clicks, so until I get used to the store navigation or I can access my wishlist, I won't be trying.

Quote - Gee thats funny I get this 2112605, so where you getting your misinformation from, or is this on purpose because you have a personal grudge with them.

With all due respect, what is your problem?  Look at the forums.

I am rapidly losing all patience with Daz.  Its forums go down, and now everyone is coming over here to insult Poser forum users for totally made up reasons?

I didn't used to have a personal grudge against Daz, but I am rapidly developing one as a result of this.

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Don't know.  My wishlist gives me an error, and browsing the store takes a lot of clicks, so until I get used to the store navigation or I can access my wishlist, I won't be trying.

Cheers Moriador... well, I guess its a case of being patient and waiting for it to be fixed. I don't envy the guys over there having to sort this stuff out under pressure, that's for sure...

Quote - > Quote - Are you guys posting to the right thread?  The only griping here has been by people who are griping about other people's griping, but no one has been griping about DAZ, nor any other site in this thread.  Once the DAZ Forum reopens (it isn't yet open) I'm sure these observations will move there...

 

 

My thoughts exactly. The only complaining I've seen so far is about the look of the new site. A lot of us were complaining about R'osity's new look not that long ago too lol.

Yes, I also commented about the Renderosity BLUE explosion but there was quickly a way to overwrite it.  Maybe DAZ will provide the same.

It's also very slow and I can't seem to post but I think they are certainly allowed some time to get it all wired up properly :)  I'm guessing whatever sandbox version they had didn't translate well to the live site and it's taking some effort to get that running well.

It's up but the forums are empty! Oh man, all those threads! Glad I didn't buy anything.

I do not understand why DAZ is sending out grand opening emails while their site is still in a state of chaos. First the "Welcome to Grand Opening" email and now I just got a second invitation titled: "Say Hello to the New Daz".

Personally I don't see the wisdom in infuriating customers by inviting them to a broken site that currently is more like a downgrade compared to the previous. 

Ok, judge my post as you want, but...

Isn't DAZ doing the same with their programs and manuals in the last couple of years?

...always too early and always more buggy.

This is said from a PC member and I have supported them from almost the beginning, until the end of the last year.

I got that email too.

It's a shame that it's been so bumpy thus far.  The best laid plans...

BTW, I'm up at this absurd hour because I was awakened a bit ago by scratching at my attic fan. Obviously a critter had gotten in, but not the one I expected-it was a Little Brown Bat.  (though some likely think I do have some bats in my belfry!) The fan apparently served as a trap.

I laid a piece of clapboard in as a ramp and it seems to have stopped. I'll need to figure out where it came in tomorrow and seal it up tomorrow evening; I don't need a guano cave in my attic.

My ferocious watch cat was at attention, but surprisingly quiet; I guess she figured that she could handle it...

Gee thats funny I get this 2112605, so where you getting your misinformation from, or is this on purpose because you have a personal grudge with them.

Looks like a DAZ site user that does not like the truth. I posted the number of REGISTERED members,  others have also posted the same information.

There is a BIG difference in what they were reporting and being proud about over a million users. When people can actually see how many registered users, then they can see yet another, shall we say miscalculation.

Once you have you posting rights back, possibly sometime next week, then ask them where all those members went and see if you get the usual DAZ propaganda.

They can't say any difference now as it is on their site for all to see.

All the best.

LROG

Strange, maybe it's only for me, but, if I login then I'm not showed as a registered user in the forum neither with name, nor as active member or logged in user...

...and I have to login every time even if I use the remember me option.

I have seen better sites created by people who have gotten free versions of NetObjects Fusion off computer magazine CD's.

If you are going to say you are going to have a site up and running correctly withion X amount of time, then doi it. NEVER promise something you cannot deliver.

At the moment, the site is a poor pitance of what it should be.

Those that are using the store, well to be honest, you are taking a risk. I would wait until the store is running correctly.

Now, no doubt there will be the usual, heard it all before, messages about how sorry they are and here is a $1.00 coupon to make you all happy.

Once their site goes live again, go over their and open up your complaining threads and see how fast they will deelete them due to their new TOS and it's being negative about the site and you are not allowed to do that.

At least they will get to try out the new, threads don't break when we change the thread option.

All the best.

LROG

Quote - Strange, maybe it's only for me, but, if I login then I'm not showed as a registered user in the forum neither with name, nor as active member or logged in user...

...and I have to login every time even if I use the remember me option.

It doesn't show me either.  It did the other day

It says in the Forum FAQ that it logs you out after 20 minutes.

Check out the new member list; looks like spambots are joining in droves......

I guess Michael is getting some new and sizable... parts.

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Gee thats funny I get this 2112605, so where you getting your misinformation from, or is this on purpose because you have a personal grudge with them.

Looks like a DAZ site user that does not like the truth. I posted the number of REGISTERED members,  others have also posted the same information.

There is a BIG difference in what they were reporting and being proud about over a million users. When people can actually see how many registered users, then they can see yet another, shall we say miscalculation.

Once you have you posting rights back, possibly sometime next week, then ask them where all those members went and see if you get the usual DAZ propaganda.

They can't say any difference now as it is on their site for all to see.

All the best.

Yes Pagan..over a Million USERS. Users are those using their software.. members are another thing, since you can DL and use the software, but not have to register on DAZ3D. In the scheme of things, does this actually matter? If nitpicking every word they say to help get out some sort of self-invented truth makes you feel better, then fine, but at least stop twisting the "truth" to suit you.

And as far as this being some attack on Poser users, no.. I am one. This is a clarification of facts only, as watching someone call DAZ3D a liar every other post is getting old. Especially since in his own post he said users, but then twisted the meaning.

Well, the fact that I downloaded the program and I never installed it will make me a user too?

Not to complain, but it's not only me since I read that many others have done so.

Until the last crash I rarely have used DS2 or DS3A, now I haven't installed any DS on the new computer.

Just to clarify ---

@ cnet http://download.cnet.com/DAZ-Studio/3000-6677_4-10717523.html

there are over 2 million downloads of DAZ studio.... DAZ's website itself, notwithstanding.

We also can't count the innumerable downloads offered in 3D world.

So yah, users versus forum members - totally different things.

I could be wrong, but if I remember correctly that number includes all the various upgrades of the software itself, because you can download only the last version.

I guess it doesn't really matter who uses what 3D software and how many.  

They are all tools to make pictures with.

I just wish DAZ would have given us a new 3D figure that we could have used, even without being able to morph into a pot bellied gorilla.  And I wish they had allowed people to copy rigging of their previous DAZ poser people to use in development of injection of rigging for poser weight mapped DAZ figures.  No wonder us poser people are such a bitter and twisted lot and people take every opportunity to criticise DAZ.

Love eshter

I downloaded Daz Studio.  I actually used version 1 point something at least three or maybe four times.  It does not make me a user of that software.  You can't really believe that downloads of free software correlate to anything other than, well, downloads of free software.

I've downloaded Maya. Does that make me a Maya user? Or just someone who wanted to take a peek at a free trial?  I am never going to buy it. Ever.

Now, if we had the figures on the number of people who actually paid for DS, that would be data worth reporting.

Fonopalo -- yes, that could be the case. My whole point is... why does it even matter? How is it relevant to the topic? And why would we use that as a basis to call them liars, just because two VERY DIFFERENT numerical totals don't match up.

If you don't like DAZ, that's fine... but why go on and on about them, then and nitpick every little thing they say and do?? The lady doth protest to much, methinks. Im not saying theyre perfect, they dont have faults, or that things always go as they plan. But they're human.... everyone makes mistakes.

Quote - Fonopalo -- yes, that could be the case. My whole point is... why does it even matter? How is it relevant to the topic? And why would we use that as a basis to call them liars, just because two VERY DIFFERENT numerical totals don't match up.

If you don't like DAZ, that's fine... but why go on and on about them, then and nitpick every little thing they say and do?? The lady doth protest to much, methinks.

Nah. The lady is just disappointed.

Please moderator, we're in the poser forum ...

I'm not sure what the registered user count represents - it's on the forum page, not the site page as far as I can see, but on the other hand it is listing new users who have yet to post anything on either the old or the new forum.

I'm not here to criticize anyone, it's just an argumentation about the numbers.

Numbers can easily be used to boost or undermine any judgment, depending on how they are interpreted.

And I wish to continue to use DAZ products, since I mostly use Carrara and Hexagon, so I don't really hate them.

@ Fonpaolo - sorry, the hate thing wasnt aimed at you in specific. It was in general.

Don't worry, at last we all love them... in different ways.

:lol:

edit: oh, and I use Poser! :biggrin:

They did say they had a million+ members and if the new site rolls out with the same number of members it had before, then it could't have had the original number they stated.

If you want to see more drastic comments, then pop along the the DAZ forum here at Renderosity and see what the Studio users think of the new site.

All the best.

LROG

Just wondering if DAZ are going to compensate the PA's while the store is messed up.

It's not their fault that DAZ has rolled out this new version and they must be losing sales due to it.

All the best.

LROG

I'm not sure what the registered user count represents.

Perhaps you should learn about this, it's not hard to figure out. It's the number of people registered at your site.

All the best.

LROG

Just wanting a confirm:-

Is the Members Only part of the Forums the PC members section?

If so, it may be better to rename it PC Members as it could be confusing for new members.

All the best.

LROG

Slight problem  with the store. They haven't impliemented anything in the Additional Information sections of the items.

Most don't even say what program they are for. Most just say:-

Notes No Compatible 3D Figures N/A Compatible 3D Software N/A Now this is a main thing, especially for new users and could cause confusion.

I'd hate to be the one who has to go through all the items and fill in the information.

All the best.

LROG

OK, someones having a bit of fun!!!! LOL.

Check out the front page of DAZ.

Go to the bottom of the page and click on Best Sellers from the left hand side.

Now look at the Genesis Battle Ready Bundle!!!!

Hand drawn smiley!!! LOL.

All the best.

LROG

I can't see any category named Best Sellers on the front page.

Ooopsie. Shop main page!!!

All the best.

LROG

Wow! ...I want that morph for M4!

:lol: 

Now, if they had put a few of these throughout the store and did a competition to find them when the forum went live again......

Well, it would fill in the time waiting.

All the best.

LROG

Link to Bundle and hand drawn face!!!!

All the best.

LROG

Hahaha!  Found it now.  :)

Well at least it's a close-up. I like to see all of the little details before spending $.

Quote - Well at least it's a close-up. I like to see all of the little details before spending $.

Yep.  The eye textures look a bit odd, though.  Something wrong with the specularity, or they have those fake reflection maps on there.

Still, it's one hell of a morph for the Genesis figure. 

Just looking at this:-

Aiden for M5
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/new-releases/aiden-for-m5

Why do you need the M4 Bodysuit, especially twice????

All the best.

LROG

Quote - Just looking at this:-

Aiden for M5
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/new-releases/aiden-for-m5

Why do you need the M4 Bodysuit, especially twice????

All the best.

LROG

It listed "Aiko 3 Morphs and Maps" twice in the requirements when I followed your link.

I hit the back button and then clicked the link again. This time it listed "The Sensational SuperStar Vickie Base Set"... again, twice.

Weird...

Quote - Yes Pagan..over a Million USERS. Users are those using their software.. members are another thing, since you can DL and use the software, but not have to register on DAZ3D. In the scheme of things, does this actually matter? If nitpicking every word they say to help get out some sort of self-invented truth makes you feel better, then fine, but at least stop twisting the "truth" to suit you.

And as far as this being some attack on Poser users, no.. I am one. This is a clarification of facts only, as watching someone call DAZ3D a liar every other post is getting old. Especially since in his own post he said users, but then twisted the meaning.

A million users?  Really?  Vendor sales don't seem to support that number.  I have seen way too many posts from vendors that talk of sales in the low hundreds.

Quote - Just looking at this:-

Aiden for M5
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/new-releases/aiden-for-m5

Why do you need the M4 Bodysuit, especially twice????

All the best.

LROG

When I looked at Aidan's product page, the required product was Draconian Warcow, I snapped a screen, but I don't know how to upload images here.

Well, I know I won't be buying anything at the store for a long time. You never know what you are going to get!!!

Come on DAZ, be honest, it's been a bit of a mess, roll back to the older site util you get it working correctly.

On the million plus registerd users, they used to have a little thing on the site that showed that, but it dissapered a while back.

Also, there is a difference from registered  site user to just a user. If something is free, then people download it, it does not mean they use it to the point that they become a registred user.

To use Studio you need a valid serial and to get that you need to be registered at DAZ.

At the moment it is showing registered users that are no where near the numbers they said they had.

Thats the point i have made, nothing more, nothing less.

All the best.

LROG