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perilous7 ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 2:54 AM · edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 4:29 AM

Hi all,

every day i look through the "whats new" in the market place and i see v4 underwear almost everywhere, how many times can you make a bra and panties set for gods sake ;-)

So it prompted a thought, when you look at the marketplace,what would you like to see there that isnt there now ? "i wish someone would make a decent .......?"

 

 A cleaved head no longer plots.

http://www.perilous7.moonfruit.com


SAMS3D ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 3:16 AM

I always look for something unique, and sometimes it is there, something has not been done before, but that is hard to do, there are so many models out there.  I really like when vendors rework some of their old work, and make it really good.  I am partial to kids, and would really like to see some unique outfits for them, steam punk is very cool to me, clothing for the kids that I quess I could say, is similar to adult clothing, not all the elf stuff, cool shoes for kids.


perilous7 ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 3:25 AM

got to admit that there is starting to be a steady trickle of steampunk stuff coming thorugh,although its not really my scene i can see some good well made items out :-)

 

 A cleaved head no longer plots.

http://www.perilous7.moonfruit.com


infinity10 ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 4:36 AM

There's really a LOT of culture-based stuff that could be eased into the market, but creators either are not inspired, not familiar with such, or marketplace does not want to risk a niche sale.

Eternal Hobbyist

 


primorge ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 4:48 AM

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Wouldn't mind seeing more well made unusual animal figures, in particular small animals and insects... I mean they're out there but not in a great variety and generally the models are rather generic examples of animal types. I would definitely purchase anything that approached the look of the two critters pictured above... Don't think I've ever seen a jumping spider or furry moth Poser figure before.


LaurieA ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 6:18 AM

I'm with Primorge...I always did buy the animals and other fantasy creatures and still would if anyone were really making them these days. I've already got nearly all the Vicky stuff I can choke down (and can make clothing myself and do), but I do miss the animals ;). The fluffy cat did catch my eye and went straight into my wishlist for when funds allow....stuff that has hair/fur/hide would be fantastic.

I'm also a pushover for well-made jewelry, tho I think that maybe only fabi fits the bill for me in the jewelry department. LOL. I dont like my own nearly as much ;P

Wouldn't mind a bit seeing some genuine period clothing either - from any era.

Laurie



DarkElegance ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 6:19 AM

Quote - Hi all,

every day i look through the "whats new" in the market place and i see v4 underwear almost everywhere, how many times can you make a bra and panties set for gods sake ;-)

So it prompted a thought, when you look at the marketplace,what would you like to see there that isnt there now ? "i wish someone would make a decent .......?"

 

sidesaddle riding habit.

there isnt a one.

then again there isnt a side saddle either.

I work with a dynamic skirt at times to get something of the effect...but still...

a nice ladies sidesaddle and side saddle riding habit would be lovely.

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.darkelegance.co.uk/



Commission Closed till 2025



DarkElegance ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 6:20 AM

Quote - I'm with Primorge...I always did buy the animals and other fantasy creatures and still would if anyone were really making them these days. I've already got nearly all the Vicky stuff I can choke down (and can make clothing myself and do), but I do miss the animals ;). The fluffy cat did catch my eye and went straight into my wishlist for when funds allow....stuff that has hair/fur/hide would be fantastic.

I'm also a pushover for well-made jewelry, tho I think that maybe only fabi fits the bill for me in the jewelry department. LOL. I dont like my own nearly as much ;P

Wouldn't mind a bit seeing some genuine period clothing either - from any era.

Laurie

the jewelry is good too. But between you and fk design....the jewelry thing is filled ^.^ OH and parrotdolphin.

https://www.darkelegance.co.uk/



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DarkElegance ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 6:23 AM

Quote - Hi all,

every day i look through the "whats new" in the market place and i see v4 underwear almost everywhere, how many times can you make a bra and panties set for gods sake ;-)

So it prompted a thought, when you look at the marketplace,what would you like to see there that isnt there now ? "i wish someone would make a decent .......?"

 

OOOHHH and reallly good "Upside down" hair. hair that really looks as if her head is bent back or she is hanging upside down. one that follows the curve of the head and then drapes....

 

not just stick up and place vicki upside down.>.<

https://www.darkelegance.co.uk/



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LaurieA ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 6:24 AM

OMG? Is it even possible to have "enough" jewelry? LOLOL



DarkElegance ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 6:41 AM

Quote - OMG? Is it even possible to have "enough" jewelry? LOLOL

no. it is not possiblehighs her multiple real life jewelry boxes, velvet bags, drawers, and cases

:P

https://www.darkelegance.co.uk/



Commission Closed till 2025



hornet3d ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 7:39 AM

I think that anything other than glamour wear for V4 is seen as a niche market.  After all a semi naked V4 must cover of a vast proportion of Poser renders.

I would perfer to see some more sci-fi outfits, but I realistic ones, I mean I am all for female equlity but how many would go into battle wearing a bra and panties.  Be that today or in the future.  I would also purchase animals, creatures, period clothing and jewelry, all items that have already been mentioned by others so I wonder just how big this niche market might be.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.


basicwiz ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 11:15 AM · edited Fri, 03 May 2013 at 3:27 PM

I will always buy low-heel shoes for V4. Ditto workplace casual clothes. I have all the slutwear I will ever buy. Ditto underwear. Ditto swimwear.

Anything well-done for M4 gets purchased immediately. I will also buy textures for existing M4 clothings. I pretty much own them all. Any texture for a Sicleyield M4 product I will buy. Any texture for dzheng street wear ditto. (I don't need his male stripper materials) I'd kill for a new texture set for the Daz M4 real jeans and associated tops.

What I'm REALLY a junkie for is environments. I own all of the Dreamland series and purchase each new one as it comes out. Greenpots loves me as well, because I buy all his stuff. In short, I need places for my people to do things. There are never enough (non-fetish) bedrooms, living rooms, etc. And no, I do not hesitate to pay premium prices for these things IF they are detailed and well done.

A word more about environments...

If you model environments PLEASE make each wall hidable! I have heard all the arguments as to why modelers don't do this, and frankly, they fall on deaf ears in my case. I don't CARE if it results in a slightly inacurate IDL render... I can live with/fix that. The differences are very subtle to my eye. What I simply refuse to work with (and have begun asking for refunds in the case of) is a room model that you need a 21mm lens to frame a scene in. This is rediculous. How hard is it to model four walls as different pieces? With all of the work that goes into one of these set pieces, please do not cripple its use by making all the walls one unit. (And yes, I know the work-arounds... but why make the end user, who has less skill than the modeller, responsible for all that wheel-spinning?) USER FRIENDLY should be more than an often ignored catch phrase.

Aren't you glad you asked this question?


DarkElegance ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 1:01 PM · edited Fri, 03 May 2013 at 3:28 PM

a nice sidesaddle...OR...

nose hairs. those are real. on real people...nose hairs......

https://www.darkelegance.co.uk/



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JoePublic ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 2:25 PM · edited Fri, 03 May 2013 at 2:27 PM

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"Horsefeathers' had a free Poser side-saddel and Poserworld had an Edwardian riding suit. (See pic)

As for the OPs question, I've long given up on others catering to my taste, so I build most of what I want myself.

Real world items are always welcome, but they need to be accurate and not generic or eyeballed.

Everything vintage and non glamourous would be nice. Non US-centric would be great, too. Would love to have some european 50/60/70s "everyday" cars and smaller city environments.

And generally more outdoor stuff that is light on computer resources but renders realistic. A nice large meadow environment with wildflowers and some trees in the background, maybe a small hamlet and a non-tropical "stoney" beach. Some old fashioned working man's garden with some flowers, but mostly vegetables.


basicwiz ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 2:30 PM

Quote - And generally more outdoor stuff that is light on computer resources but renders realistic. A nice large meadow environment with wildflowers and some trees in the background, maybe a small hamlet and a non-tropical "stoney" beach. Some old fashioned working man's garden with some flowers, but mostly vegetables.

What Joe said!


Gremalkyn ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 2:41 PM

Omni Model with dials all over the place so faces, figures, and monsters (with wings, tails, etc.) of any age, size, and gender could be made just by dialing it in.  If I wanted to make a child, a mermaid, or even a Yagnoloth http://www.ask.com/wiki/Yagnoloth?qsrc=3044 in Poser, I could just dial it all in using the same Omni figure.


hornet3d ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 2:48 PM · edited Fri, 03 May 2013 at 3:29 PM

I have some of the Dreamland and Greenpots items in addition, as much of my stuff is Sci-Fi based, I also purchase a great deal from 3-D-C.  One ot the reasons for this is not only are they great environments with so much included it is so easy to hide a wall or prop to get the precise camara angle you want.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.


DarkElegance ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 2:57 PM

Quote -  

"Horsefeathers' had a free Poser side-saddel and Poserworld had an Edwardian riding suit. (See pic)

As for the OPs question, I've long given up on others catering to my taste, so I build most of what I want myself.

Real world items are always welcome, but they need to be accurate and not generic or eyeballed.

Everything vintage and non glamourous would be nice. Non US-centric would be great, too. Would love to have some european 50/60/70s "everyday" cars and smaller city environments.

And generally more outdoor stuff that is light on computer resources but renders realistic. A nice large meadow environment with wildflowers and some trees in the background, maybe a small hamlet and a non-tropical "stoney" beach. Some old fashioned working man's garden with some flowers, but mostly vegetables.

AHHHhhHHHHhhHHHhH a sidesaddle!!!

 

now for the lovely long skirted riding habit!

https://www.darkelegance.co.uk/



Commission Closed till 2025



basicwiz ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 3:10 PM · edited Fri, 03 May 2013 at 3:10 PM

I've gone back and looked at Daz re: the modeller I was concerned about.

I see in the what's included a "Poser Core Installer" as well as a DSON installer. Does anyone know if this means the item IS indeed Poser compatable without DSON? What I'm trying to wrap my mind around is why include a DSON package if there is a Poser solution without it? 

I may be all wrong here. If I am, it makes me very happy.

Can someone enlighten me?


wimvdb ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 3:16 PM · edited Fri, 03 May 2013 at 3:19 PM

A DSON core nstaller is the new description of a DS4.5 installer

A DS legacy installer is for DS3/4

A Core Poser installler is the new description of a Poser installer

So if it contains both, it has both DS4.5 and Poser compatible installers

Not 100% sure if I we are thinking about the same person, but if it is, the consoles are both, the mountains are DS only

 


basicwiz ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 3:27 PM

Many thanks, Wim!

I'm REALLY glad I was wrong!!!!!!!

(I've gone back and deleted all chatter my bad info generated to prevent confusion.)


DarkElegance ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 4:03 PM

Quote - Many thanks, Wim!

I'm REALLY glad I was wrong!!!!!!!

(I've gone back and deleted all chatter my bad info generated to prevent confusion.)

sounds fair^.^

https://www.darkelegance.co.uk/



Commission Closed till 2025



Morkonan ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 5:24 PM · edited Fri, 03 May 2013 at 5:28 PM

Quote - ... "i wish someone would make a decent .......?"-

 

I don't buy clothes models, any longer. But, here are my "I wish someone would make decent(s)"...

Hair - I'm getting really tired of buying a hair product, only to discover that it's got terrible textures or its UV map sucks or it just doesn't render well past the "cartoon wearing a construction helmet" look. (I've had to remodel and rework every hair item I have bought and that is just about all I ever buy, these days. I hate modeling hair... It causes my spleen to explode. So, that's the only geometry I ever buy.) I will no longer buy any hair from anyone that is not a recognized master hair model producer and who partners with a master texturer and materials artist... Period. (Even then, it's sometimes hit or miss. I only want "realistic" hair.)

Good Seamless Texture packs - I don't mean the "Look what I can do with online texture generators!" I mean good organics and patterns that don't look like a fractal mess. Good "prints" suitable for clothing with bump/displacement and even fake normals or specular maps. I want to see extra bump/displacement maps that cover differently textured materials that are not just desaturated copies of the original patterns.

Materials Packs - I know there are lots out there, but scrabbling through the search engine is hard work and there's plenty of sleeping to be done out there and I'm just the guy to do it! So, someone splurt out a Mat Pack with a gazillion awesome mats and effects so I don't have to play "Connect the funny little squares with spaghetti" mini-game included in Poser's Material room...

Good Light Sets with addons for Poser2012Pro - Yes, there are some new ones out I see. That's great. But, if I'm going to buy a lightset, I want to see a "Click Button To Make Art" kind of light set, not just one that has some IBLs with slightly different colors in them. I want to know how many lights are in each preset and I want to see the results with at least a loosely stated set of parameters. (I know that it's not feasible to release details, since their duplicable, but some clues are better than none when it comes down to making a decision.) I want to know why your lightset is unique and special and deserves my desperately hoarded dollars.

STOP IT WITH THE HAIR TEXTURES ALREADY - Really, we don't need fifty hue/saturation/color overlays of the same tired painted texture for every hair model that has ever been done. A nice realistic texture pack with real photo-based textures would be wonderful. Maybe even two, if they're good enough. I can do some hair texturing work on my own, but I dislike having to. (I know, it's not a "wanted product" it's a wanted release of valuable inventory space on my screen window when I'm browsing the marketplace.)

Stop it with the baked on shadows and highlights for everything, if possible - Really, at this stage in the game, we shouldn't have heavy baked on shadows on any textures. If you must, include them as a seperately rendered overlay for those users who do not want to use AO or have the latest additions of Poser to take advantage of IDL. A AO/Shadow overlay, rendered seperately, that the user can combine in a pose (provided) or as a separate layer for Photoshop or Gimp is all that is needed. Otherwise, I have to spend time removing your baked on stuff... The Clone Stamp and Repair Tools hate me.

Here's what I really want - I want lit wireframes. I don't buy conforming clothes/items because I can model better than what I see being sold... unless I see a wireframe that tells me differently. If I see one that is unique enough and gives me the information that I need to know if that object will be suitable, I might consider buying it. As it is, too many clothing model layout pages focus on the cleavage and legs of the figure model and not enough on the actual product being sold. I want meaningfull information and, to me, that means wires. (Included extra joint layouts would be nice, too.) Edit-Add - I will say that a couple of clothing producers have taken to including AO/Mudbox renders of their product. I would like to extend to them my warmest thanks and appreciation for this attention to professional levels of marketing detail. Now... gimme some wires! :D


lmckenzie ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 5:41 PM

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Yes, we need more animals – and clothing for them!

Argh, JoePublic, I thought I was going to scoop with the sidesaddle and riding habit ÷) I can only add that the former is/was Horsefeathers9 if you can find it.

There has been a slow but fairly steady stream of SteamPunk stuff, both free and commercial. It’s hard to tell what drives these things – maybe pop culture, the latest blockbusters. AFAIK, it’s not more than an urban niche in the real world. There was a bit of an Avatar boomlet, but it seems to have died out fairly quickly. I’m not sure thee are that many broad archetypal fantasy niches. Given the ages of many people here, I would think that the 60s would appeal but I don’t ever remember a lot of tie dye, bell-bottomed stuff – ditto the 50s or whatever characterized the 70s etc. You got western which pretty much died with its TV counterpart. There’s Conanesque tits & dragons, knights & castles, sci-fi, faeries and whatever the flavor of the week is, e.g. steampunk. Probably some I forgot but each of these has gotten some play. Even those whose tastes lean more toward cubical life or the gritty reality of condo life get something occasionally. Beyond that people gravitate to that genre that has a few million years of evolution going for it.

“I need places for my people to do things.”

An often ignored factor, along with all of the details associated with said environments – HRVIAV (Hyperreal Vickie In A Vacuum). I’m not sure how much rooms have varied since olden times, they’re boxes. Details like doors and windows, may vary somewhat in placement and design, but it’s the bling, furnishings and accessories that differentiate between Sadam’s palace and your house, other than scale and location. All of that stuff is out there, often free, just not in Poser format. When it comes to bling as opposed to the rooms themselves, sometimes it seems like people are willing to spend countless hours tweaking stuff in Poser but can’t find a commode cause it’s not “for Poser.” The same thing goes for cars etc. You either get extremely lucky and find it for Poser, get lucky and find it in another format, or go wanting. Lighting fixtures, plumbing, store shelving, chip bags, jam jars, dog leashes, Coke machines, radiators, ATMs, eye drops … you may find one or two for Poser, but finding one in some other format and spending some time making it good or making it good enough may be a better bet. For mixing Poser content, a standard for scale, with guidelines for the various modeling programs might be helpful – beyond a rough ‘does Posette’s ass look big in this chair,’ but probably not gonna happen. Has anyone tried Sweet Home 3D for Poser or are the meshes unusable?

Environments, I have Vue, but I’m not insistent on having Poser features/shaders for imported content, though some of that is possible if you have the Cray to run Poser and Vue simultaneously. For any of the non-organic, non textile stuff, if you want to DIAIP (do it all in Poser) or have it MFP (made for Poser) then your choices will be more limited.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken


DarkElegance ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 7:43 PM

Quote - > Quote - ... "i wish someone would make a decent .......?"-

 

Good Seamless Texture packs - I don't mean the "Look what I can do with online texture generators!" I mean good organics and patterns that don't look like a fractal mess. Good "prints" suitable for clothing with bump/displacement and even fake normals or specular maps. I want to see extra bump/displacement maps that cover differently textured materials that are not just desaturated copies of the original patterns.

 

have you looked at parrotdolphins sets? they are amazing.

https://www.darkelegance.co.uk/



Commission Closed till 2025



Eric Walters ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 7:55 PM

I am in agreement! I bought a Smilodon charcaracter-in part because of the FUR

Adds to the realism.

Here is a render

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2397181&user_id=193&np&np

 

Quote - Wouldn't mind seeing more well made unusual animal figures, in particular small animals and insects... I mean they're out there but not in a great variety and generally the models are rather generic examples of animal types. I would definitely purchase anything that approached the look of the two critters pictured above... Don't think I've ever seen a jumping spider or furry moth Poser figure before.



primorge ( ) posted Fri, 03 May 2013 at 8:54 PM

Nice render and unusual mood for the smilodon, EW.


Morkonan ( ) posted Sat, 04 May 2013 at 6:36 AM

Quote - ...have you looked at parrotdolphins sets? they are amazing.

I just did, thanks to your post. :D I like the fact there are bajillionty-seven mats per pack, too! I may check them out, so if your lead generates a sale, Parrotdolphin owes you a commission! Thanks again! (Any other recommendations would be most welcomed.)


Morkonan ( ) posted Sat, 04 May 2013 at 6:51 AM · edited Sat, 04 May 2013 at 6:52 AM

Quote - ..Details like doors and windows, may vary somewhat in placement and design, but it’s the bling, furnishings and accessories that differentiate between Sadam’s palace and your house, other than scale and location. All of that stuff is out there, often free, just not in Poser format. When it comes to bling as opposed to the rooms themselves, sometimes it seems like people are willing to spend countless hours tweaking stuff in Poser but can’t find a commode cause it’s not “for Poser.” The same thing goes for cars etc. You either get extremely lucky and find it for Poser, get lucky and find it in another format, or go wanting. Lighting fixtures, plumbing, store shelving, chip bags, jam jars, dog leashes, Coke machines, radiators, ATMs, eye drops … you may find one or two for Poser, but finding one in some other format and spending some time making it good or making it good enough may be a better bet. For mixing Poser content, a standard for scale, with guidelines for the various modeling programs might be helpful – beyond a rough ‘does Posette’s ass look big in this chair,’ but probably not gonna happen. Has anyone tried Sweet Home 3D for Poser or are the meshes unusable?.

I have purchased one interior set. I will never purchase another, because I don't use the one I bought...

Scale is the largest problem when dealing with Poser and "Real World" items. For instance, most items that I see that people create for Poser are not too real-world scales. That's easy to explain, since Poser's figures aren't to real world scales... They're slightly "off" and the standard joints don't help. (Though, weightmapping and heavy modification CAN render figures that are remotely human in proportion.)

You'll find this problem when downloading architectual models, as well - V4 can't sit comfortably in that hyper-realistically-scaled piece of furniture obtained directly from the manufacturer that manufactures that real-life piece of furniture because V4 is not a real-life person. :D

"Freebies" frequently don't pay any attention to scale problems. The modeler creates a trumpet that looks like a trumpet, but nobody could play because their fingers could never depress the valves while actually holding the trumpet properly... See? But, for the creator and most of the audience, they don't care too much about that - It's enough that it looks like a trumpet.

What that means is that you're frequently going to have to alter most models that your figures are going to interact with, unless those models are particularly well done and the artist has paid strict attention to Poser and its figure scales. Where Freebies are concerned, you'll frequently need to alter not only their materials, but their geometry, using a 3D app or magnets and deforming tools to accomplish the job.

 

On knick-knacks and bricka-brack - This is a definite problem for someone who likes to render realistic scenes. But, there's a very easy solution, so long as you don't mind lying a bit and your figure doesn't have to interact with the item very directly - Use transmapped planed with real-world images pasted on them. (Alpha mapped planes, planar images, whatever...)

So, you need a desk cluttered with crap, but don't want to spend the hours it would take to obtain all those models or model them yourslef? No problem! Go out on "teh interwebz" and use Google's Image search. Type in "cluttered desk" or "desk furnishings" or "pencil holder" or whatever else you need on that desk and find a good image of it. Take that image into Photoshop or Gimp and cut away all the garbage you don't need. Change the perspective to match the intended render, then make an alpha mask/transmap for that image, black where it should be transparent and white where the image should show. Load it onto a UVMapped primative plane using the material room, load the transmap and set the transparency to 1, position rescale and tile the plane however you need it to be and place it so that it appears to be resting on the desk. Whalla - Now you have a realistic stapler for your character to complain about!

You can do this with anything, so long as you can get a decent image and don't have to have the figure interacting with it in any three-dimensional fashion. Even then, you could conceivably find images that could successfully mimic such interaction, but that's a bit more difficult.

Don't worry about populating your scenes with fifty props that go nowhere and do nothing but add to the ambience. Instead, use planars for simple stuff and you'll find that your scenes will "pop" a bit more realism.

 

Note: If you subscribe to mags like 3D Artist, you can find lots of free items in there by quality artists like Stonemason. I have several of his Science Fiction sets from those sorts of mags and they're awesome!


obm890 ( ) posted Sat, 04 May 2013 at 9:40 AM

Quote - You'll find this problem when downloading architectual models, as well - V4 can't sit comfortably in that hyper-realistically-scaled piece of furniture obtained directly from the manufacturer that manufactures that real-life piece of furniture because V4 is not a real-life person. :D

 

Ain't that the truth. I recently modelled a chair from very accurate, dimensioned reference images, but when skinny 6-footer V4 sits on it she looks like a folded giraffe - her elbows don't come anywhere near the chair's armrests, her knees are way up in the air because her legs are so long. SP3 looks a whole lot better sitting in it.

Quote - Note: If you subscribe to mags like 3D Artist, you can find lots of free items in there by quality artists like Stonemason. I have several of his Science Fiction sets from those sorts of mags and they're awesome!

I subscribed to 3DWorld for a while a few years ago but didn't renew my subscription because 99% of the free models ("worth over $650" according to the blurb on the cover) were utterly useless to me. Most (the nicer ones) were Max/Maya formats only, and the few that were also available as untextured obj/3ds/dxf were just useless objects like a high-poly tonsil or a highly detailed snail shell. I don't think I've ever used a single one of the free models in a render. Maybe things have improved since then.



DarkEdge ( ) posted Sat, 04 May 2013 at 10:32 AM

Quote - ...every day i look through the "whats new" in the market place and i see v4 underwear almost everywhere, how many times can you make a bra and panties set for gods sake ;-)

Perhaps visiting a new store could inject some life into your Runtime? 😄

Comitted to excellence through art.


AmbientShade ( ) posted Sat, 04 May 2013 at 10:32 AM

I started building an old house sometime early last year. It was never originally intended for use in Poser, but since it's in OBJ format anyway it doesn't matter. Maybe I should pick it back up and finish it?

I was building it to human scale. Err, I guess 1:6 human scale that is. 

 

~Shane



AmbientShade ( ) posted Sat, 04 May 2013 at 10:35 AM

Quote - > Quote - ...every day i look through the "whats new" in the market place and i see v4 underwear almost everywhere, how many times can you make a bra and panties set for gods sake ;-)

Perhaps visiting a new store could inject some life into your Runtime? 😄

 

"Ooh! I've never seen THAT color panties before! Why haven't I visited this other store sooner?!?"

 

~Shane



DarkEdge ( ) posted Sat, 04 May 2013 at 10:35 AM · edited Sat, 04 May 2013 at 10:45 AM

Not everyone or every store is making panties Shane, all I'm suggesting is perhaps it's time to expand your store gunsights. 😄

Comitted to excellence through art.


AmbientShade ( ) posted Sat, 04 May 2013 at 10:57 AM

I know I'm just bein facetious. 

But the point is slutwear dominates the poser market regardless of what store you're looking at cause it's usually easy to make and always sells. Higher quality models take much longer to put together, sometimes months for a single piece or set, and require a much higher price point than what the majority of poser users are willing to spend, so it greatly narrows the field of artists willing to put the time and energy needed into building more elaborate "niche" pieces, because they have to eat too. So they go to other markets like Squid, etc, where they'll get a higher bid on their work. 

 

~Shane



foxylady1 ( ) posted Sat, 04 May 2013 at 11:44 AM

When I saw this yesterday, I couldn't wait to buy it. 

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/canvas-shoes-for-m4/98872/

How much more normal can shoes get, "and" they are for M4.  V4 has a pair also, which I own.

I know guys don't get a lot of variety, but every once in a while a vendor will surprise me with something really great.  Thank you Hitman47.

I would love to see some 40's stuff for both V4 and M4.  WWII era clothing is what I want, including military dress uniforms (both enlisted and officers).  I have always wanted to do some renders from that era, but cannot find the right look in clothing.

 


DarkEdge ( ) posted Sat, 04 May 2013 at 1:07 PM

@Shane,

Agreed. I know you take the time to model expertly and I encourage you to continue to do so, if there is payment then that is a fringe benefit not the goal...I believe you continue your pursuit for the same reason I do, we're artist's. Slutware was the reason I actually started to create content some 5 years ago, I wanted something darker and beefier with a bit of edge and a little bit of gaming. C'mon and visit the DNA clan! 😄

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lmckenzie ( ) posted Sat, 04 May 2013 at 4:22 PM

Poserworld may be the best shot for WWII uniforms. Civilian clothing from that era probably harder to find except a piece here and there. Most ‘vintage’ seems to go pre 1900, Victorian, Edwardian. I’ve seen a few ‘flapper’ era things, but again not easy to find.

Ah, I remember the Poser scale wars – good thing the UN finally sent in peacekeepers. I don’t know if even DAZ uses some kind of consistent scale between their figures, much less thinks in terms of real accurate biometric scale. It seems like you’d need them and probably SM to agree and maybe the independents would follow. It’s true that when you get into actual interaction with the figures, Poser and non-Poser content, scaling is going to be critical – as in the trumpet example. OTOH, the trumpet lying on a table or someone just holding it, some simple scaling might suffice. The same for furniture etc. If it looks like she ‘could’ sit in it, it may make a better scene than an empty one. Not everyone’s going to whip out the calipers and cry foul. Some type of photo mapping or use of images as mentioned can help too.

Unfortunately, Poser kind of evolved outside the mainstream of 3D and back then, there probably wasn’t as much standardization even between CAD programs etc. Nowadays, different companies are exchanging stuff, sending plans directly to fabrication etc. and it all has to match. It would be great if we could someday have that level of consistency. Of course, the occasional space probe does go missing because someone forgot to convert units …

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RorrKonn ( ) posted Sat, 04 May 2013 at 4:36 PM · edited Sat, 04 May 2013 at 4:38 PM

Comercail stuff that can be used commercaily.
Can't use superman,300,game of throwns.stuff comercaily.

100 % Original stuff.
Have a sign in big letters saying so at the store.

Off the wall kool Original stuff like what you might see in
heavy metal comics,games,movies.
ya can still have the sexy girl.
Fantasy and or scifi.

insteadd of just a back ground,stages also.

compleet sets .If I had a set of a scifi city 30 outfits 10 boys 10 girls 10background people.and it all matched with some automobiles.
I would not mind paying for it.

I like Mech's also.

and every thing textured better with zbrush texturs

 

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PrecisionXXX ( ) posted Sat, 04 May 2013 at 7:43 PM · edited Sat, 04 May 2013 at 8:45 PM

Quote - and every thing textured better with zbrush texturs

 

I didn't notice your credit card number with your offer.

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estherau ( ) posted Sun, 05 May 2013 at 1:41 AM

I would like jeans that don't hug the calves and thighs, like stretchy tights.

I like Ts that don't hug the breasts but hang down.

I like belts that go through belt loops with all jeans.

I like shoulder holsters under loose jackets.  and a morph for my poser people to hide their guns at the back of their jeans too.

I like sleeves with roll up and straight arms.  

I like helicopters with really realistic consoles where the dials can show low fuel, falling altitude etc.

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Morkonan ( ) posted Sun, 05 May 2013 at 1:51 PM

Quote - ...I subscribed to 3DWorld for a while a few years ago but didn't renew my subscription because 99% of the free models ("worth over $650" according to the blurb on the cover) were utterly useless to me. Most (the nicer ones) were Max/Maya formats only, and the few that were also available as untextured obj/3ds/dxf were just useless objects like a high-poly tonsil or a highly detailed snail shell. I don't think I've ever used a single one of the free models in a render. Maybe things have improved since then.

I just bought 'em off the shelf, when artist's like Stonemason had stuff was in 'em. :D (Seriously, I do read 'em for the articles... Honest!)


Morkonan ( ) posted Sun, 05 May 2013 at 1:59 PM

Quote - ...It would be great if we could someday have that level of consistency. Of course, the occasional space probe does go missing because someone forgot to convert units …

I wasn't even there! I never saw the thing in my life! I wasn't even in town, that night. THE CHECK IS IN THE MAIL!

 

I gathered a bunch of biometrics and WHO/NHA data and started crunching on V4, awhile back. I gave up after awhile - Just too many verts to move and then I was going to be faced with rigging it AND dealing with the native JCMs, which I have no idea how to get to in some sort of visual way.

But, that was before weight-mapping and P2012Pro's hefty tools... It might be worth a revisit.

(I even did volume calcs using her welded geometry... But, the software I was using did NOT like crunching numbers for her body and gave up quicker than I did. ;) )


lmckenzie ( ) posted Sun, 05 May 2013 at 3:21 PM

Your software crashing was perhaps a warning not to delve into matters of the divine where mortals should not tread. Thus, how many naked Vickies can dance on the head of a pin remains a matter of faith - as it should be. We love our Goddess.

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SamTherapy ( ) posted Sun, 05 May 2013 at 3:40 PM

There's nothing to stop anyone making and selling something different from the herd but...

As many have learned, there's so much slutwear, underwear, swimwear etc because that's what sells.  Stray too far from the beaten track and you can count your sales on the fingers of no hands.  

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TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Sun, 05 May 2013 at 6:29 PM

Quote -
OOOHHH and reallly good "Upside down" hair. hair that really looks as if her head is bent back or she is hanging upside down. one that follows the curve of the head and then drapes....

 

UPSIDE (or lying on a bed hair) for MALES.. some of us render something other than Vickies ;)

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DarkElegance ( ) posted Sun, 05 May 2013 at 7:43 PM

Quote - > Quote -

OOOHHH and reallly good "Upside down" hair. hair that really looks as if her head is bent back or she is hanging upside down. one that follows the curve of the head and then drapes....

 

UPSIDE (or lying on a bed hair) for MALES.. some of us render something other than Vickies ;)

I stand corrected. ^.^

really good "upside down hair" for BOTH sexes!

 

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Zaarin ( ) posted Sun, 05 May 2013 at 7:59 PM · edited Sun, 05 May 2013 at 7:59 PM

More stuff for K4--especially, good sci-fi clothes for K4--especially the boys.

For that matter, good sci-fi clothing for M4 and V4--and by sci-fi, I don't mean "zipped-down cleavage window catsuit with thigh-high six-inch-heeled boots."


perilous7 ( ) posted Mon, 06 May 2013 at 4:30 AM

i wish i could make some of the content some of you have mentioned, i will have to bite the bullet and learn how to get poser clothing to work,the modelling bit is easy its just the rest of it lol

i have seen a lot of textures made with filterforge etc which must have taken all of ten mins to make,and i agree its quite easy in photoshop to recolour hair textures because ive done it myself to improve some renders,but i suppose its up to the buyer,if you dont feel its of value dont buy it,but i think the point is that more useful texture sets are needed.

speaking as a struggling vendor :-) ive tried to avoid falling in the trap of making stuff for others as i will be constantly worrying if ive spent a load of time producing something that nobody wants,ive decided to put on sale the things ive made in producing my artwork,i realise that that sounds like me being arrogant but at the moment being a vendor isnt my sole source of income but also ive heard vendors say that its a struggle to produce artwork etc as always busy producing content,and i want to still be in a position to produce my artwork

 

i suppose theres a couple of opposing factors in making quality content;

vendors time and also concern of producing items the public WANT to buy

vendors not knowing what content to make

buyers frustration at low quality items

buyers frustration of limited breadth of subjects

perhaps a partial solution to this could be to devise a site wide voting system obviously after a while a picture would emerge what would be the publics top choices but such a system wouldnt be able to cope with individaul unique requests etc 

just a thought.

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RorrKonn ( ) posted Mon, 06 May 2013 at 9:48 AM

 

I think sexy girls will always rule in every thing but I think ya need more then just the sexy girls.

but a lot of renders just have the sexy girl.a few or no props,back grounds.

fast sells n fast renders.

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