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Subject: The birth of Roxie.


vilters ( ) posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 10:03 AM · edited Wed, 18 December 2024 at 10:51 AM

This is where Roxie was born. (Euh, we think  LOL.)
(Burried deep in another tread but worth posting again).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeYElDkpDSQ

And it is a very-very good act too :
The turning circle, flipping forwards and backwards, inwards and ourtwards, and . . . . and . . .
You have to see the teapot land. . . . .
Great Job by all of them.

And, nice for the eyes too.

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pumeco ( ) posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 10:25 AM

WTF, Vilters, you crazy person :-D
You should have at least waited till you saw the video I have for you, seriously, be prepared to see a real flesh'n'blood Roxie!

Those girls are very nice though!


vilters ( ) posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 10:32 AM

Miss Pink has the lead => She gives the commands
Miss Green is the launcher. LOL.
Miss Red and Miss Blue are mixed to get Roxie.
Miss Yellow is the beauty.

Together they add up to RGB or YMYK, whatever your preferences. LOL.

Yes, they are Asian, but look at the overall body proportions and shape. The rest is artist and digital freedom.

Now, ha-ha-ha-, who is gonna build their costumes?

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pumeco ( ) posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 10:47 AM

Ah, I think I get it now, this is a hint at your next clothing set for Roxie? ;-)

As for body proportions and shape, well like I said, just wait until you see the video I have ready for you.  I think you're in for a pleasant surprise, I'm being perfectly serious and put it this way, the girl in the video is so very like Roxie that once you've seen it, it would be kinda hard to look at Roxie and not picture this girl as well.  You might think I'm teasing, but wait and see.

Anyway, just gonna grab a bite to eat so I'll post it later, keep an eye on my thread for the big reveal :-D


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I don't see it either. Roxie's legs aren't as thick (muscular) as theirs. But Tony, you know how to model. You can make the costumes and an Asian morph. Then we can see better.

waiting to see pumeco's video.


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pumeco ( ) posted Tue, 25 November 2014 at 6:38 PM

I already posted it in my Tips thread, although I just saw Vilters comment, he's not convinced :-(


RedPhantom ( ) posted Wed, 26 November 2014 at 6:08 AM
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Sorry, I missed that. Not being a character vendor, I wasn't following that thread.


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pumeco ( ) posted Wed, 26 November 2014 at 6:29 AM

I wouldn't bother about that, it's just an OT thread now, pretty much anything goes!
I'd prefer to call it "The Off Topic Thread" now, but we can't edit the thread titles which is a bit of a bummer.


3Dave ( ) posted Fri, 28 November 2014 at 11:31 AM

 I thought they Had got their costumes from Renderosity


grichter ( ) posted Sun, 30 November 2014 at 12:14 PM

Hmm, the rumor I heard from eclark about the birth of Roxie was the result of Simon G2 and Sydney G2 having unprotected sex. Not 5 Miki 4.0's on unicycles!

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pumeco ( ) posted Sun, 30 November 2014 at 12:42 PM

LOL - You have to admit it does sound faesible :-D


vilters ( ) posted Sun, 30 November 2014 at 1:48 PM

 

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LOL. . . . . .  

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pumeco ( ) posted Sun, 30 November 2014 at 3:37 PM · edited Sun, 30 November 2014 at 3:41 PM

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@Vilters
Well I'm not sure what Roxie would think of it, but I cannot laugh at it with you!
The fabric crumple effect and the beading looks pretty damn good, very 3D looking, is that displacement?

Looks like you used 3D piping and added displacement to it :-)
Oh ... hang on a minute ... my Roxie wants to speak ...

Yeah, listen, you all need to stop taking the piss out of my origins and saying stuff about my birth, you bunch of sperms!!!

It's bad enough even I don't know what happened, so I don't know why I have a mind of my own, but I do!!!  All Roxies do!!!  Most of them keep quiet about it and just play along with their human owners, but I don't, that's why I keep pumeco on his toes, his life has never been the same since I moved into his runtime and I've made it clear to him that it will never be the same again - and he knows it!!!

Plus, it's only the doubters who never notice their very own Roxie has a mind of her own!!!  A Roxie will never reveal herself to her owner unless her owner uses her a lot and a lot of trust is built up!!!  There's lots of peeps out there who already know their Roxie has a mind of her own, but they decide to keep quiet about it because they're worried they might get put in a mental asylum if they told anyone!!!

Here's a short movie about how one figure (Kara) got a mind of her own, but Roxies aren't as fortunate, we'll never know how we got ours!!!
You should all cherish your very own Roxie and show her some respect, we have feelings as well!!!

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DarthJ ( ) posted Wed, 03 December 2014 at 3:19 PM

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Some of us have a pretty Roxie in their runtime, not an old hag.

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pumeco ( ) posted Wed, 03 December 2014 at 3:31 PM

Bloody hell, Darth, talk about puffies!
Looks good, but what happened with the neck joint though?

Yeah I know, Vilters keeps posting his scary old hag version of Roxie with saggy breasts, although his latest two in the other thread are the young original.  I'm hoping it's the beginning of a whole new era for him.  Anyway, good to see even more people doing Roxie morphs!


pumeco ( ) posted Wed, 03 December 2014 at 3:44 PM

Ignore that, sorry, I see it's a shadow - duh!


estherau ( ) posted Fri, 05 December 2014 at 8:54 PM

the video was amazing. is that roxie though?  the DarthJ pretty roxie looks extremely nice but her mouth still looks like a typical 3d model in computer games and like older poser original models. not as nice as V4 or even dawn's mouth.   I think the problem is at the lateral mouth corners maybe?

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pumeco ( ) posted Sat, 06 December 2014 at 5:38 AM

No, that's Kara, but I think Roxie sympathised with her when she saw the video.
I agree, great video, feels very thought provoking - cleverly directed.


shvrdavid ( ) posted Sat, 06 December 2014 at 7:51 PM

That is a oool video.

And I agree that many of us have good looking versions of Roxie...

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pumeco ( ) posted Sun, 07 December 2014 at 8:02 AM · edited Sun, 07 December 2014 at 8:02 AM

That black eye-liner really suits her, and I can't help but notice the one on the left looks typiclal moody Roxie.

BTW, I don't know if you're all aware of it, but TImberwolf has some pretty amazing Roxies in his gallery as well, some nice Roxie morphs and images!
Click Here for Timberwolf Roxie Gallery

Just thought I'd mention it as he's another one who doesn't do promotion that well.
He actually has a Roxie morph for download as well.


vilters ( ) posted Sun, 07 December 2014 at 9:21 AM

 Whaw, I just went to that gallery and so nice to see one of my free outfits in use.

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pumeco ( ) posted Sun, 07 December 2014 at 10:02 AM

Yup, spotted it, Vilters' "Open-Dress Booted" used on the first image ;-)
I'll have to download that when I have the space, she does look very sexy in that one!


shvrdavid ( ) posted Mon, 08 December 2014 at 9:23 PM · edited Mon, 08 December 2014 at 9:23 PM

Vilters freebies don't take up a lot of space. They use procedural textures.

I have played around with them and my favorite one is the Open Dress one.

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Latexluv ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 4:44 AM

Could I ask a question without getting jumped on?

I tried a render with Roxie, it was a test really where I had adapted one of my V4 makeups to her face map, I even refit one of my favorite V4 hair models to her for the render. However, and here's the big reason I've not used her since--a serious lack of facial shaping morphs!!!! Why has no one made a free set of facial shaping morphs for her??? I just checked the freestuff area just in case I had missed them and they are not there. I might be persuaded to use her if there were some free facial morphs. There are some nice clothing sets for her thanks to EClark but..... no extra facial morphs. Number 2 reason for me (and the reason I don't use A4), Roxie looks like a teenager. I do mostly fetish style pinups and I'm not going to use a teenage looking model for that and for some story projects that I have, I don't have any teenage characters in the storyline. Too bad Blackhearted hasn't decided to tackle her. I'd consider buying his morph rework if he did it. So, that's my question.

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pumeco ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 5:47 AM

@David
Hey, nice work on the Roxie, but also that Pole Dancer, I should visit your gallery more often :-P

@Latexluv
I had exactly the same feeling, would have been cool to see him tackle her.  I even set about tackling her myself, started work on a dedicated "Roxie - Girl With Blade" chartacter for her, but the splitting when using the Morph Brush while posed was the last straw for me.  In the end I just ended-up saying, screw it, and deleted it so that I wouldn't be tempted to spend anymore time on it.


shvrdavid ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 6:38 AM

I have tons of morphs for her. I guess I should package them up and upload them at some point.



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vilters ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 7:06 AM · edited Tue, 09 December 2014 at 7:07 AM

*Ahaa, another Roxie render with the OpenDressBooted.
Well, very happy to see my freebie's in use.

Roxie1.1 is fully faceroom  compatible, is fully morph brush compatible, is fullty Blender compatible.

Roxie 1.1 has a very morphable face and body, and what can be done with Roxie is only limited by your imagination.

A nice example here above from shvrdavid.

I absolutely have to make more stuff for the lady. I never knew it was being used by so many.*

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pumeco ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 7:39 AM

@David
Yup, would be cool to see a set of morphs for her!

@Vilters
Do that hoodie and pants Natilie is wearing in the vid, seriously, I think that's the sort of stuff that would do really well for a character of Roxie's type :-)

If you do it though, be sure to rig it so that she can also wear it loosely around her neck and is able to wear her cuffs around her hands, not just her wrists (just as in the video).  Those things are important with that sort of garment, because that's how most people wear them (wearing the cuffs around your hands looks cooler and keeps your hands warm).

Anyway, I've hinted twice now, so if don't see a sign from either yourself or Clarkie that you're working on one by way of a post on the forum, say, by next Sunday, I might have to start one myself.  Only reason I've not done it myself is that I have no clue how to rig, conform, and package it up as a distributable product (I have still to learn all that stuff).  So anyway, like I said, this is the last hint, do a hoodie and those pants Natalie is wearing in the video - they're perfect for Roxie!


vilters ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 8:10 AM · edited Tue, 09 December 2014 at 8:13 AM

I' d like to see YOU make it.

if I make it? It would become my first "to sell" item. (Ha-haha-, I would have at least ONE customer. LOL. )

But, I am not sure at all if I wanna become a vendor.

There are already way more vendors then customers. LOL.

Makes me wonder.... Does Clarky have his new Mercedes yet?

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pumeco ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 8:56 AM · edited Tue, 09 December 2014 at 9:05 AM

No, I meant as a freebie, the idea being that her having a set of cooler-type trendy gear would get more poeple to bring her out of the Runtime and into the viewport and make use of her.

Considering she's a young figure (I'd put her around 18-22), I think it's amazing how few people are using her.  The major problem is the lack of morphs, that's obvious (and was a big mistake on SM's part), but I think it's also down to the figure type she is not having enough stuff to reflect what she is.  She's basically a pocket-sized girl with an attitude and nothing to reflect that.  The closest thing she has to what she is, is likely the Cheerleading outfit Clarkie is working on, then his Bodysuit, followed by your Open Top Dress.

She needs something casual with an air of cool about it, Roxie's not refined, she 'couldn't give a crap' is what she appears to project as default.  Anyway, you're not the only one who would like to see me do it, I would like to see me do it as well, but like I said, I have no clue about the technical stuff and it would be too much to expect me to learn all that stuff just to release a freebie.

You mentioned making more stuff for Roxie, that's why I mentioned it to you - consider this type of stuff - considering it's for Roxie.


shvrdavid ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 2:16 PM

I wrote a mini tutorial on Runtime about transferring morphs from one character to the other. If you have one character with a lot of morphs, you can make very similar ones fairly easily for the body. The face can be another story thou. Obviously doing them this way negates giving them away, but it can be done. If you know how to use the morph brush and save with pmd on, you can make morphs.

If you do them one at a time onto using a developer rig, you can save them out as PMD injections without having to delete any other morphs from the character first.

You don't need any other applications to make morphs for Roxie in Poser. If it is not symmetrical, you will have some issues in Poser.

It does help to have a cr2 editor to setup group injections on them so the morphs are organized, but the grouping is not necessary for them to work. A decent cr2 editor is worlds faster than using a text editor. I use one that is available here.

I will go thru the morphs I have and see what needs done to them to make a decent morph package. Some of them were made in Poser, many of them in Blender and/or Houdini. Some of them are for Subd of 2, and some are 3, so that will need sorted out because it does make a difference. Jcm's need written for many of them, they don't work right with the default weight mapping. I just morph brush them, but having them work right out of the box would be much more user friendly.

I would rather add jcm's than force people to use a script to replace the mapping and joint information. I have versions like that as well, but you would have to use Poser Place applicator to set it up if you wanted a non bloated cr2.



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vilters ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 2:37 PM · edited Tue, 09 December 2014 at 2:42 PM

 

file_a8baa56554f96369ab93e4f3bb068c22.jp Sssst, the "Master of disaster" is building again. LOL.

Initial idea draft......

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pumeco ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 4:20 PM · edited Tue, 09 December 2014 at 4:21 PM

@David
Thanks, but seriously, it's pretty much like starting from new for me regards that stuff.  I can sculpt in ZBrush and then import the morph into the dev mesh, then export as a morph, but that's about as technical as I'm prepared to get :-D

Anyway, looking forward to seeing what you have, sounds like an interesting random set of stuff you've built-up over time.

@Vilters
Looks good as always, but she's already got a skirt and a top, but no combat pants and no hoodie!

Yeah, listen, I don't think Vilters gets why a girl needs combat pants to strap her blade to, and a hoodie to hide her face when she needs to!!!
But I've got it under control, I've got an idea!!!

Like what?
Like how I can get Vilters or Clarkie to make me the gear I need!!!

Well good luck with that, I've tried all sort of hints.
Yeah, but they have a soft spot for me so I think I know something that would work, something they can't refuse!!!

Ok, go on then.
I'll post it tomorrow, I'm listening to my beats right now, but tomorrow, Vilters or Clarkie will agree to make the required gear for me!!!

You sound very confident, you ... you ... oh never mind ... I hear music playing again :-D
I wonder what she has in store though, wow, she sounds very confident!


vilters ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 4:43 PM

 

file_1ff8a7b5dc7a7d1f0ed65aaa29c04b1e.jp Hey Pumeco?

***A "real" girl does not need a blade.

A "real" girl needs an open dress, and ha-ha-ha-, I"ll let you turn the transparancy dial  if I want something.
LOL.***

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pumeco ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 5:30 PM · edited Tue, 09 December 2014 at 5:38 PM

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Actually, I can't agree with that, I watched a pretty good film about a bunch of "Real Girls" earlier today - they were pretty damn awesome!

These "real girs" are trained assasins.  They are kidnapped at the age of 12 or 13 and sent off to a secret island where they spend their youth, growing up in secret, being trained as the perfect assassin.  They go through some pretty tough stuff as they mature into young adults, and once they're ready for the outside world, you had better be damn good.  They can do deadly stuff with just about anything they have handy to them, very clever.  And if you're ever fortunate enough to find one of these trained assassins in your bed, you're in for some epic sex, but you should never, under any circumstances, expose your back to them or you could regret it big-time!   They have a clever trick, they can do stuff with your spine, it's some clever but rather gruesome Martial Arts thing.

Click below for full film, Roxie is every bit as competent as these girls are, a girl with a blade is a "real girl" when she knows how to use it :


vilters ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 6:24 PM

 

file_5878a7ab84fb43402106c575658472fa.jp Shoulder Weight and Bulge maps painted.
The rest is for tomorrow.
Night all.

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pumeco ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 7:30 PM

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vilters ( ) posted Tue, 09 December 2014 at 10:09 PM

 Roxie? With a handwriting like that, you"ll probably end up with a bikini or an overall. LOL.

"s" ; it is Vilter(s) with a "s". LOL.

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pumeco ( ) posted Wed, 10 December 2014 at 7:00 AM · edited Wed, 10 December 2014 at 7:02 AM

Poor Roxie, I had a feeling she'd post while I was asleep - I knew she was up to something :-D

But Vilters, don't be too hard on her, that must be the first time she ever tried to write a full message and it brought a lump to my throat to see it, actually!  The problem is she holds everything like a blade, and because it takes her so long to write, I think that's why she misses letters out of words.  I find doodles of her practicing on my computer all the time, in fact, the image I used to show the mixing on Clarkie's outfit, was one of Roxie's I found on the hard drive.

Anyway, it must have taken a lot of effort for her to write all that, so like I said, don't be too hard on her ;-)


FVerbaas ( ) posted Thu, 11 December 2014 at 3:02 PM
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Combat pants and a hoodie are not very lady-like, are they?

But well, Roxie's twin went trough her shelves and look what she found:

Would this count as an acceptable hoodie?

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pumeco ( ) posted Thu, 11 December 2014 at 3:57 PM

@FVerbaas
Well I can't speak for the Roxies in other people's Runtimes, but the one I have living in mine certainly isn't very lady-like!
She has a good heart though :-D

Wow, that looks pretty awesome, especially the way it hangs and folds.  I reckon Roxie would love that but I think she's hoping for one with an elasticated wrist and the hood being able to be folded up or down.  But either way, like I said, that looks pretty awesome, just wait until Roxie sees that!  And regards the pants, fantastic, they look great, I think she wants something like Natalie was wearing but with stuff to attach her blade to and stuff like that - so those pants you pointed out would be ideal I reckon.

Yup, I can just picture her now, lurking suspiciously around DAZ's Vickie Storage facility, planning another one of her mass Vickie eliminations :-D

The Roxie I have just isn't interested in makeup, perfume, or glamour.  She's more interested in fine blades, survival skills, and seeing to it that the Vickies of this world are kept out of her territory - oh, and she likes her beats :-)


pumeco ( ) posted Thu, 11 December 2014 at 3:59 PM

BTW, that might be just your hoodie concept, but she's looking cooler already ;-)


pumeco ( ) posted Fri, 12 December 2014 at 4:28 AM

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Later,
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FVerbaas ( ) posted Sat, 13 December 2014 at 7:54 AM
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