So, to deactivate your user account here you have to:

"... first sign into your account and remove your gallery, friends, free-stuff, wish-lists and favorite lists, and remove any notifications you have set (e.g.gallery subscriptions, site mail notifications, newsletter, daily digest,etc. Once you have done this, please send an email to admin@renderosity.com and your account can then be closed."

Seriously?

Is this place so incompetent that you have to jump through all those hoops just to close your account?

I think it'll be easier, and more fun,  just to get permanently banned...

We do this in order for you to make sure if there is anything important associated with your account.  You may want to download any images you have in case you wanted them.

Did you write into admin@renderosity with this request?

I will be happy to assist you but we do hate to see any members leave.

Nooo Snarly can't go! I won't allow it!

Can the Powers That Be kindly add an addendum to the TOS stipulatin' that Grib needs full permission from the chat regs to leave?

Tanx  :D

Chat regulars just can't survive without their daily dose of snarly so nope not allowed to go 

Say it isn't so!!! (even if I understand how ya feel) :(

Laurie

It is a sad day when one of the most popular people in chat and in the forums wants to deactivate his account. It says more about the state of RO than anything. We will miss you Snarly, hope you will keep in touch in some way.

don't go, snarly.  besides, they never ban anyone for life - they always give a reprieve.

We do this in order for you to make sure if there is anything important associated with your account.  You may want to download any images you have in case you wanted them.

Did you write into admin@renderosity with this request?

I will be happy to assist you but we do hate to see any members leave.

What happens if you don't do any of that stuff and die? Does that mean you have an account at Renderosity for all eternity. Hey, look at that!  The forum spellcheck doesn't recognize the site name as being spelled correctly.

Snarly pleaese don't go! I have missed talking to you a whole lot. I hope all is well. You have brightened my days more then you know it. I have loved talking to you so very much. And my life has been greatly blessed because of you. You are a apart of my little online family and the thought of not talking to you really saddens me.  But if you go... know that you have made my life so much better and every day I think of you. You could always make me laugh and knowing you has been a great joy. I love your creations and programs. Thank you so very much for all you have done Snarly I love you so very much!!.  Snarly if you stay I will adopt the cat even though the family will rebel at me. Please don't go Snarly you are loved!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!  Do Not Want!!!! :(

However, I must say that I was adjusting my signature last week and happened across that menu item and looked there myself, so I hope you were just curious, too; I'd miss you lots! :)

I think I blinked and missed something, why does Snarly want to leave, what happened?

I think I blinked and missed something, why does Snarly want to leave, what happened?

In case you hadn't noticed, folks like Snarly and Bagginsbill find the new forum software useless and painful. I don't want to speak for either one of them, but I suspect that's a big part of it.

Whoa, when someone like me or my alter-ego (DeathMetalDesk) contemplate such a move it's easy to chalk it up to mood swings or a penchant for creepiness... When important fixtures of this community such as Snarly or BB indicate such a desire there's a real problem here. While I respect your dissatisfaction I humbly hope that you reconsider, Snarly.

Unbelievable.

@Glitterati
Oh I definitely noticed that, I don't think any of us like the new forum design though, so maybe he lost a massive post or something, I know I have a few times.

Hang in there, Snarly, at the very least you know we share your frustration.  And anyway, you can't leave because that would decline the number of Brit's around here, you can't just leave us here with all these crazy Americans and a Belgian :-)

You cannot be serious, 'gribbly, you must be mad!

Since the last "downgrade" of this forum, activity has dropped to an all time low.

In brief : The forum is a mess, and more and more members are fed up and leaving.

And as a result? RDNA activity (and others) has grown exeptionally high.

Want to rescue the forum? Restore to december 2010, before the last 3 downgrades.

Just look at the multiple and multiple and multiple headers here consuming . . . . . .
Tony shut up, go elsewhere.
Not a soul is reading any more. . . . . .

Yeah, listen Gribbly, that's just sick!!!

Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade

"In brief : The forum is a mess, and more and more members are fed up and leaving."

...and here I thought it was just my overactive imagination.

Hey, Snarlly!

:)

Since the last "downgrade" of this forum, activity has dropped to an all time low.

In brief : The forum is a mess, and more and more members are fed up and leaving.

And as a result? RDNA activity (and others) has grown exeptionally high.

Want to rescue the forum? Restore to december 2010, before the last 3 downgrades.

Just look at the multiple and multiple and multiple headers here consuming . . . . . .
Tony shut up, go elsewhere.
Not a soul is reading any more. . . . . .

Actually, Tony, I didn't actually leave Rendo. I like it here.  DAZ is the only forum I hardly ever post in anymore. I'm even starting to post more at Hivewire.

Earl, a few years back, I also opened this forum every day (Still do)

But a few years back, there where at least 2 pages of new treads "every day". (A single page of new treads was rare)
Now you can be happy to see 2 new treads a day, and a handfull of posts.

if this continues, they can fire half of the staff.

What worries me most is "who" is going.

Geep, BB, Snarly?

Man, those are the hearts and souls of POSER.

That are  ome of the most motivated and most capable and most helpfull guys around.

Comapred to those? I feel very-very-very small.

Realy, it hurst so see them go.

Not surprised. 

Nothing interesting is happening in the forums anymore.  What I am more concerned about is hearing from more than 1 vendor, on more than 1 storefront is that 'Rosity isn't interested in supporting non-DAZ figures.  Once is an accident, two is a coincidence, but 3 is enemy-action.

I am deciding whether or not to renew my Prime membership.  The quality of the site does figure into that decision.  'Rosity seems to be moving in the wrong direction - I don't think being a DAZ.com wannabe is a long-term bet.

BTW, is anyone else having the "phantom message notification"?  When I visit the main page, my email icon is lit, and my inbox says I have a message, but damned if I can find it.

I have to admit this place is a whole lot less fun and considerably more hard work to use than ever before.  It runs like cold treacle on my machine, unlike every single other forum I frequent.  It's such a pain in the rear end to use that I have to consider whether or not it's worth the effort to post a comment.  I strongly suspect that's the case for many other members, too.

Honestly, Rendo guys, this forum software is absolutely horrible.  Please, please, pretty please, change it back.

@ssgbryan
I've had a phantom notification for private messages just once, but quite a few for forum posts in recent months.

What SamT  and vilters said...

Laurie

@ssgbryan
I've had a phantom notification for private messages just once, but quite a few for forum posts in recent months.

Ok, so it isn't just me - that is good to know.

Earl, a few years back, I also opened this forum every day (Still do)

But a few years back, there where at least 2 pages of new treads "every day". (A single page of new treads was rare)
Now you can be happy to see 2 new treads a day, and a handfull of posts.

if this continues, they can fire half of the staff.

Maybe, but let's face it, over at RDNA, most of the posts are only in about two or three threads. Most of which is off topic. I oughta know, I started two of them, and they're both about a year old.

Earl, a few years back, I also opened this forum every day (Still do)

But a few years back, there where at least 2 pages of new treads "every day". (A single page of new treads was rare)
Now you can be happy to see 2 new treads a day, and a handfull of posts.

if this continues, they can fire half of the staff.

Maybe, but let's face it, over at RDNA, most of the posts are only in about two or three threads. Most of which is off topic. I oughta know, I started two of them, and they're both about a year old.

That's funny, I just pulled up the forum and New Posts link and got a full page of posts that have been updated today.  Certainly none of them a year old. Frankly, the RDNA forum has way more traffic since RO's "upgrade."

Earl, a few years back, I also opened this forum every day (Still do)

But a few years back, there where at least 2 pages of new treads "every day". (A single page of new treads was rare)
Now you can be happy to see 2 new treads a day, and a handfull of posts.

if this continues, they can fire half of the staff.

Maybe, but let's face it, over at RDNA, most of the posts are only in about two or three threads. Most of which is off topic. I oughta know, I started two of them, and they're both about a year old.

That's funny, I just pulled up the forum and New Posts link and got a full page of posts that have been updated today.  Certainly none of them a year old. Frankly, the RDNA forum has way more traffic since RO's "upgrade."

I said the threads were a year old, not the posts.

Not surprised. 

Nothing interesting is happening in the forums anymore.  What I am more concerned about is hearing from more than 1 vendor, on more than 1 storefront is that 'Rosity isn't interested in supporting non-DAZ figures.  Once is an accident, two is a coincidence, but 3 is enemy-action.

If vendors aren't creating content for non-daz figures, how is that Renderosity's fault? I don't understand the logic in that statement. Aside from sets and prop pieces, I haven't seen much of any new content for non-daz figures being published at any site, other than HiveWire. 

We are working on putting together some forum contests and challenges with actual prizes, just takes time to get details worked out. 

Not surprised. 

Nothing interesting is happening in the forums anymore.  What I am more concerned about is hearing from more than 1 vendor, on more than 1 storefront is that 'Rosity isn't interested in supporting non-DAZ figures.  Once is an accident, two is a coincidence, but 3 is enemy-action.

That is simply not true. I have seen content for both Dusk and Dawn, and what about the new influx of Star content?

That said, I can see the frustration.. even making a simple post is a puzzle if you want to quote someone, and what happened to being able to preview your post?

Not surprised. 

Nothing interesting is happening in the forums anymore.  What I am more concerned about is hearing from more than 1 vendor, on more than 1 storefront is that 'Rosity isn't interested in supporting non-DAZ figures.  Once is an accident, two is a coincidence, but 3 is enemy-action.

That is simply not true. I have seen content for both Dusk and Dawn, and what about the new influx of Star content?

Whether it is true or not, more than 1 vendor has stated that their content was rejected - and having seen the quality of content that is being accepted, I don't think that is the issue.

Whether it is true or not, more than 1 vendor has stated that their content was rejected - and having seen the quality of content that is being accepted, I don't think that is the issue.

While I agree that some of the content that has been released lately has been somewhat 'lacking', I also keep in mind that the one vendor I have so far seen expressing what you say, is a vendor that has a bit of a, shall we say, 'reputation', and I would take what they say with a grain of salt. But that's just me. So far I see no sign of Rendo dismissing non-daz figures.

Since the last "downgrade" of this forum, activity has dropped to an all time low.

In brief : The forum is a mess, and more and more members are fed up and leaving.

And as a result? RDNA activity (and others) has grown exeptionally high.

Want to rescue the forum? Restore to december 2010, before the last 3 downgrades.

Just look at the multiple and multiple and multiple headers here consuming . . . . . .
Tony shut up, go elsewhere.
Not a soul is reading any more. . . . . .

I don't see a lot of topical conversations anywhere.  Without having access to the numbers, my impression is that forum traffic is becoming more off topic and less of it. I can see why Snarly is leaving, I don't spend any real time here anymore either.

googling site statistics show that 'rosity is still at the top of the poser-related sites in terms of traffic and sales by a significant margin. Anyone interested can run the same scans and find those results from multiple analytical sources, comparing the top poser sites and see for themselves.

So while forum activity may be low, traffic is still quite high.

I'd say the primary reason activity is down in general is due to a lot of people moving on to other interests, more advanced software, etc. There's a lot more available to the CG hobbyists now than there used to be. I do agree that the forum software needs work. 

What worries me most is "who" is going.

Geep, BB, Snarly?

Man, those are the hearts and souls of POSER.

That are  ome of the most motivated and most capable and most helpfull guys around.

Comapred to those? I feel very-very-very small.

Realy, it hurst so see them go.

I have to agree and the word that really upsets me the most is the word 'going' rather than moving.  I have learnt so much from the names listed, and many more not mentioned, but they don't seem to be moving to another forum (if they are please let me know which one) which means they are a loss to the whole 3D community. I still shop here, far too much this month, thanks to so many sales, and I suspect I will continue my prime membership but I am finding more and more that I spend more time at RDNA than in this forum.  Go back a couple of years and my habit was to visit this forum every day and RDNA about once a week.  Now I visit RDNA everyday and sometimes I can go two to three days to without visiting here.  In addition I have started putting some of my images up in the RDNA gallery something I never used to do. 

It is not only the forum either, OK I accept that some of these issues are only seen with Internet Explorer but, if you go into the galleries and then select a drop down, the menu list displays beneath the header so some options are hidden.  If I want to credit a vendor I have to fire up Google Chrome because the option does not work with IE.  In short the Rendo site has a lot of niggling little issues which add up to making it frustrating to use sometimes. 

RDNA on the other hand seems to be slick in comparison and the forum there is a joy to use.

We are working on putting together some forum contests and challenges with actual prizes, just takes time to get details worked out. 

• Excellent looking forward to that!

• One of the reasons that the forums aren't popular as much as before is that it always ends up being a software discussion with heightened emotions like people take thinks personal when you don't use a certain software.

• I just don't get it, it's a tool like a pencil, I'm not offended by people who use a brush instead of a pencil.

• I for one I'm very glad that the chatregulars use all kinds of softwares in harmony, we teach eachother and learn from eachother, like it supposed to be, like it used to be in the forums...

• Big hug to all chatregulars, you guys are great!

"I just don't get it, it's a tool like a pencil, I'm not offended by people who use a brush instead of a pencil."

What!? How dare you not be offended by people who use a brush instead of a pencil, Biscuits!?

Ahhhh, I'm kidding... I just like saying Biscuits. Biscuits.

We are working on putting together some forum contests and challenges with actual prizes, just takes time to get details worked out. 

• Excellent looking forward to that!

• One of the reasons that the forums aren't popular as much as before is that it always ends up being a software discussion with heightened emotions like people take thinks personal when you don't use a certain software.

• I just don't get it, it's a tool like a pencil, I'm not offended by people who use a brush instead of a pencil.

• I for one I'm very glad that the chatregulars use all kinds of softwares in harmony, we teach eachother and learn from eachother, like it supposed to be, like it used to be in the forums...

• Big hug to all chatregulars, you guys are great!

I can't argue with any of that and RDNA has the same problems, not surprising when it is often the same people, even if they do use different names. I guess other forums suffer in a similar way and the moderators have thankless job in that they are either accused of stifling conversations, taking sides or something much worse.  Problem is that the people leaving now are the ones we would like to hug, thus leaving the field to even more of the 'my software is great' or 'my view is the correct view' contributors.  Then throw into the pot issues like your last thirty minutes of typing disappearing because you tried to do something really whacky like a cut and paste, and the fun content of the forum heads ever closer to zero

• One of the reasons that the forums aren't popular as much as before is that it always ends up being a software discussion with heightened emotions like people take thinks personal when you don't use a certain software.

• I just don't get it, it's a tool like a pencil, I'm not offended by people who use a brush instead of a pencil.

• I for one I'm very glad that the chatregulars use all kinds of softwares in harmony, we teach eachother and learn from eachother, like it supposed to be, like it used to be in the forums...

• Big hug to all chatregulars, you guys are great!

I'm sure there are people who argue over which tool or medium is better in almost any industry or field. Cooking, Science, photography... trust me, they all have fights. And sometimes, rather passionate ones.

googling site statistics show that 'rosity is still at the top of the poser-related sites in terms of traffic and sales by a significant margin. Anyone interested can run the same scans and find those results from multiple analytical sources, comparing the top poser sites and see for themselves.

So while forum activity may be low, traffic is still quite high.

How much of Rendo's bustling 'traffic' is just frustrated visitors struggling to get around this stupid site? Taking 3 attempts to post a forum reply because the stupid forum software doesn't work, taking 5 attempts to do a simple store search because the stupid store software doesn't work, having to go via 5 other pages to get from a gallery image to the see the rest of the artist's gallery because there's sometimes no direct link, being unable to go directly to the last page of a forum thread because it doesn't show as having multiple pages... I guess a city with messed up road signs would also have a lot of 'traffic' - a lot of people driving around pounding their steering wheels shouting 'WTF??!'

I'm sure there are people who argue over which tool or medium is better in almost any industry or field. Cooking, Science, photography... trust me, they all have fights. And sometimes, rather passionate ones. - Well I luckily never came across a software war in the modeller softwares. Maybe there were but I was not aware of them. Naieve blisss...Lol

• What does it matter if you use Modo, LW, C4D or Max. Offcourse one can have a discussion about features and such and offcourse passion is so important for artists, but when it becomes personal and it offends, it crosses the border and becomes rude...I have to zone out then, rather use my energy to create.

Experiences vary depending on what browser you're using. I use Chrome and have had no problems with the forums or the store in quite a while, but I know there have been some people that have had issues using IE. 

You can post any problems you're having to the Marketplace Customer Service forum and make them aware of it if they aren't already. Or the Community Center forum for more general issues not specific to the store. Just be sure to give as much detail as possible - which browser, etc. Admin are usually pretty quick at looking into specific issues when brought to their attention.

What worries me most is "who" is going.

Geep, BB, Snarly?

Man, those are the hearts and souls of POSER.

That are  ome of the most motivated and most capable and most helpfull guys around.

Comapred to those? I feel very-very-very small.

Realy, it hurst so see them go.

Les Bentley has been gone for many months, too.  I sent him a site mail a couple of months ago and it was never read; I hope nothing happened to him... :(

You can post any problems you're having to the Marketplace Customer Service forum and make them aware of it if they aren't already. Or the Community Center forum for more general issues not specific to the store. Just be sure to give as much detail as possible - which browser, etc. Admin are usually pretty quick at looking into specific issues when brought to their attention.

I would do that if I though something might actually be done about it. Unfortunately, what typically seems to happen here is that you report a specific issue with details and screenshots, a friendly forum moderator acknowledges your post, and then nothing.

Lots of interesting and pertinent points made in this thread.

I'm also somewhat humbled by the kind words expressed by many of you. I half expected a PM or two asking why I was going, but certainly didn't expect all this. Thank you :-)

Anyway - TinaK has offered via sitemail to discuss my reasons for going. I shall take her up on that kind offer but will keep the discussion private, as all sitemail should be. Looking through this thread I see that I don't really need to explain anything anyway, as the issues seem to be well-known. I am, however, tired of coming to this site and leaving disappointed, frustrated, annoyed and sometimes even saddened. There is no room in my life for those feelings.

To clear up some important points:

• I love Poser
• I won't be stopping using it any time soon :-)
• There will be more Snarly freebies one day, but you might have to hunt them down
• If people want to keep in touch and find out what I'm up to, it won't be too difficult
• Did I mention I LOVE Poser? :-D

For now, I think this thread would best be served by carrying on the discusssion about what would make Renderosity the fun, exciting and stimulating place it used to be - maybe somebody somewhere will be listening?

For now, I think this thread would best be served by carrying on the discusssion about what would make Renderosity the fun, exciting and stimulating place it used to be - maybe somebody somewhere will be listening?

I know I've tried to convey my everlasting dissatisfaction with the site redesign(s), but it seems to fall on deaf ears. Since I am by no means the only person who's voiced their issues I can only assume Renderosity no longer cares what my (or my fellow dissatisfied site members) opinions are ;). If I have to stalk you around the internet to pick your brain, use your wonderful freebies or otherwise enjoy your sense of humor, I can do that too. LOLOL :P

As far as it being a kinder, gentler place I'm afraid that's up to the members. I for one am no longer interested in waging war over silly programs and their differences, but obviously others still are. Until people get over that I suppose the current attitudes will continue, which is a real shame.

Laurie

Snarly, we really need people like you here, YOU MAKE A DIFFERENCE and all of us in the chat room will really miss you...Jan

Agree with all of the above 110%.

All of the wrong people are leaving.