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Subject: Lighting in Superly (Poser 11)


rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 8:15 AM
hborre posted at 9:39 PM Tue, 20 September 2022 - #4444901

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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 8:16 AM
RedPhantom posted at 7:01 AM Wed, 21 September 2022 - #4444915

https://sharecg.com/v/62326/browse/11/Poser/Saber-Suit-for-Kururu

https://sharecg.com/v/68400/browse/11/Poser/MIKI4-Casuals-Suit-Set.

Thanks. I don't know why I couldn't find these in the search function.

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hborre ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 9:02 AM
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Don't feel bad, I did the search also, and resulted in the same behavior.ย  So I went to my alternate solution.


rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 9:34 AM
rokket posted at 8:15 AM Wed, 21 September 2022 - #4444924

So who is Kururu?

I answered my own question. I found her. Too bad the weight mapped version of her is only for DAZ. I would probably use her. But not in my current project. And her clothes won't fit V4, am I right?

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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 9:34 AM
hborre posted at 9:02 AM Wed, 21 September 2022 - #4444930

Don't feel bad, I did the search also, and resulted in the same behavior.ย  So I went to my alternate solution.

And now I have your alternate solution too. Thanks again for the link.

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I don't have anything for Kururu. I'd never heard of her before yesterday. I can't say how well it would fit V4. It would need converting.


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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 10:03 AM ยท edited Wed, 21 September 2022 at 10:03 AM

RedPhantom posted at 9:40 AM Wed, 21 September 2022 - #4444935

I don't have anything for Kururu. I'd never heard of her before yesterday. I can't say how well it would fit V4. It would need converting.

A lot of converting.

I downloaded her original version and took a look at the mesh compared to default V4.

I don't think it will work to try to use her clothing.

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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 10:32 AM ยท edited Wed, 21 September 2022 at 10:32 AM

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Anybody have a good shader to make skin look wet? Not sweaty, or just boosting the specular, but actually fell-in-a-lake wet? I need it for my scene and I am not sure how to pull it off in Superfly. I did it with Sydney in Firefly years back. But it didn't look quite right.

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There was a MAT that someone did awhile back too. But it didn't work in Superfly. I used it on Miki, but you had to zoom in to the pic to see the water drops on her.

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Basically, I want to make it look like my Kara was thrown through a water tower and comes out wet. I can do her clothes in post, but I need to be able to do her skin. If I use rev-viper's hair prop, there is an included wet hair morph for it that looks pretty good.

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hborre ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 10:43 AM
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I see that there is an Evilinnocence Kururu license for CrossDresser 3 and 4 so it can be converted over to V4.ย  Unfortunately, I don't own either license to test it.


rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 10:54 AM

I don't own CrossDresser. And I am pretty sure the fitting room in Poser would destroy the mesh. I could try to scale it up in Wings and see if I can get it to fit. But I am doubting it.

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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 10:58 AM

It won't work. The difference in their bodies makes it too much work for me to do without a program like CrossDresser.

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 12:44 PM

Speaking of skin,ย rokketย why not giving a test through EZSkin3? you may define what kind is each body part, so that you could create a character definition for this one.



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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 12:48 PM

I forgot all about that. I will take a look at it in a bit. I am running a render, doing a strand hair test. Once I get that done, I will see what I can do with EZSkin3.

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hborre ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 12:56 PM
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The only drawback that I have found in EZSkin3 is the inability to activate the SSS material settings for the skin textures.ย  There is no check box option.

@ Y-Phil: I don't know if this is an option that can be easily implemented, and it would be appreciated if you have some time to look into it.ย  I think it is a feature that should be available to users as an option rather than an assumption that it is already activated when EZSkin is applied.


Y-Phil ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 1:14 PM ยท edited Wed, 21 September 2022 at 1:15 PM

I think that the SSS is always enabled (given it's active in the render parameters)


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ย and the part you may control is how deep it goes, through each Scatter nodes (above is for Firefly and below for Superfly)
You may remark that my settings are for Superfly

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I don't know Kururu but it looks pretty much like an Aiko3 or an Aiko19

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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 1:41 PM

I thought there were presets for wet skin and whatnot. I went looking, and I am clueless how to make her skin look wet.

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 2:27 PM ยท edited Wed, 21 September 2022 at 2:27 PM

This needs to be experimented more (I'm not used to this part), but using the Cycles plugin for EZSkin:


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hborre ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 2:35 PM
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Y-Phil posted at 1:14 PM Wed, 21 September 2022 - #4444948

I think that the SSS is always enabled (given it's active in the render parameters)


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ย and the part you may control is how deep it goes, through each Scatter nodes (above is for Firefly and below for Superfly)
You may remark that my settings are for Superfly

Hvx4Sid9DQ4lLvheWaK9YVHekjBp74M1F1sYwsPy.png


I don't know Kururu but it looks pretty much like an Aiko3 or an Aiko19

That's just it.ย  The Use_Material_Colorย is unchecked.ย  According to the Poser manual, you must check the tick box if you want to use the Material preset.ย  Unfortunately, the Scale doesn't behave as I expect it to, at least.ย  When I increase that value, I do not notice an increase in translucency, only by decreasing the value do I see a difference.ย  When I get time to experiment with it closely, I'll determine if it is actually broken.ย  The PrincipledBsdf SSS Scaling does increase the translucent behavior as it should.


Y-Phil ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 2:59 PM ยท edited Wed, 21 September 2022 at 2:59 PM
hborre posted at 2:35 PM Wed, 21 September 2022 - #4444953

Y-Phil posted at 1:14 PM Wed, 21 September 2022 - #4444948

I think that the SSS is always enabled (given it's active in the render parameters)


gi7I5ZiJChL45Qn0RUMVv5x57k8HyMdSoPRomfO8.png

ย and the part you may control is how deep it goes, through each Scatter nodes (above is for Firefly and below for Superfly)
You may remark that my settings are for Superfly

Hvx4Sid9DQ4lLvheWaK9YVHekjBp74M1F1sYwsPy.png


I don't know Kururu but it looks pretty much like an Aiko3 or an Aiko19

That's just it.ย  The Use_Material_Colorย is unchecked.ย  According to the Poser manual, you must check the tick box if you want to use the Material preset.ย  Unfortunately, the Scale doesn't behave as I expect it to, at least.ย  When I increase that value, I do not notice an increase in translucency, only by decreasing the value do I see a difference.ย  When I get time to experiment with it closely, I'll determine if it is actually broken.ย  The PrincipledBsdf SSS Scaling does increase the translucent behavior as it should.$

For me, it's 10pm and I feel the tiredness lol, so that I may have to re-read your explanation and see if I can find where to interfere in EZSkni's code and correct this,

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hborre ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 3:50 PM
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No problem, I thought I mention it while on the subject.ย  Later.


rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 4:04 PM
Y-Phil posted at 2:27 PM Wed, 21 September 2022 - #4444951

This needs to be experimented more (I'm not used to this part), but using the Cycles plugin for EZSkin:


KjLHPPKPUIpZugnZnVRKGcVXom2u10wZDKPeFSF4.png


cWk1OsGi6jevnWTfCBI4w7MyeGIMbKpufw11jxqK.png

How did I miss this post?!?

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ghostship2 ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 4:28 PM

I got something cooking up for wet skin. Give me a few min

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ghostship2 ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 4:28 PM

I just had a mat room crash. had saved preset to library so we good. lol


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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 4:33 PM

Nice. Let me know when you are ready to awe me

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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 5:04 PM

I can't choose cycles... Only Superfly and Firefly...

How can I get to that? Do I have to configure it before I apply to the figure?

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ghostship2 ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 5:20 PM

superfly is cycles

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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 5:34 PM

Ok, but in the screen cap that Y-Phil posted, it is on EZ_Cycleskin(SF), and I don't have that option.

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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 5:35 PM

And Cgf is greyed out. I can't select it

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ghostship2 ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 5:41 PM ยท edited Wed, 21 September 2022 at 5:41 PM

This is what I got so far. It requires a dropletย  texture map that I think came from Bagginsbill and the skin bump maps from your skin shader. It's on a second layer.

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ghostship2 ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 5:43 PM

here is the mat that should be on a second layer above your skin shader.

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ghostship2 ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 5:45 PM

here is the droplets image. it should be 1024x1024

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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 5:55 PM

Thanks. I will give this a shot right now. I am working on a Miki in the tub scene and The next thing will be to tackle how to make the bottom part of her strand based hair look wet.

Sometimes I bite off way more than I can chew.ย  I know there has to be a math solution to getting the bottom part of the hair to look wet.

But I suck at math...

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ghostship2 ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 6:02 PM

this is the skin shader preset that I use for ezskin

https://www.sharecg.com/v/85846/browse/9/Plug-in/Cycle-based-plug-in-for-EZskin3-poser11-only

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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 6:26 PM

I am downloading it, and running a render with Miki in the tub. I am watching it and it's turning out pretty good so far. I won't know until it's done, even with progressive refinement on.

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ghostship2 ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 6:28 PM

progressive refinement takes longer to render. just sayin'.


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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 6:30 PM

Yeah, I know. But I prefer it because if I make a mistake in the posing or something else, I can see it before it gets too far and can stop it

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rokket ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 7:13 PM ยท edited Wed, 21 September 2022 at 7:13 PM

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I didn't let it finish. I am at work and I have to shut down my laptop before the next shift gets here...

But not bad

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hborre ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2022 at 7:56 PM
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That looks pretty good.


rokket ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2022 at 8:41 AM

Weird that there is a response from Y-Phil, but I am not seeing it...

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rokket ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2022 at 9:33 AM

I downloaded and installed that EZSkin py for cycles, but EZSkin isn't recognizing it. It's in the folder the instructions said to install it...

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2022 at 10:04 AM ยท edited Thu, 22 September 2022 at 10:04 AM

rokket posted at 8:41 AM Thu, 22 September 2022 - #4445033

Weird that there is a response from Y-Phil, but I am not seeing it...

I've deleted it as Ghostship already gave the respond 😄

Are you sure to have a file named "CycleSkin.py" in this folder?

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Note that you must restart EZSkin to see it.

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rokket ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2022 at 10:10 AM ยท edited Thu, 22 September 2022 at 10:10 AM

Hmmm. Is that in the program files? That's where I have been installing all my scripts.

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rokket ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2022 at 10:15 AM

I fugured it out. I fixed it. It works now!!!!!

Thanks for the tip

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2022 at 12:32 PM

Just another hint: Poser11 is the last one to be installed within "Program Files". Poser12 and the next versions will always have their own tree, elsewhere. Actually: on a dedicated partition stored on a Samsung SSD 860 M.2, with all my runtimes (I've seen a difference in speed when I did this)
The "Program Files" zone is too strict, too complicated to manage.
And as you can see, all scripts such as EZSkin3 and the likes are stored on a third drive.

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2022 at 12:32 PM
rokket posted at 10:15 AM Thu, 22 September 2022 - #4445040

I fugured it out. I fixed it. It works now!!!!!

Thanks for the tip

Great news 😄

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rokket ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2022 at 1:31 PM ยท edited Thu, 22 September 2022 at 1:33 PM

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Yeah, so apparantly, the water is pretty cold. So cold it knocked her suit off...

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Her body and hair both have cycles materials. The wet look of her hair came from a pose file that red viper included in the package for that hair.

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rokket ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2022 at 2:00 PM

Now I just need to figure out how to simulate wet clothes and I'll be set

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Y-Phil ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2022 at 2:24 PM

Great picture! And I love her expression - lol


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Y-Phil ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2022 at 2:25 PM

Oh and red viper also provides with feg II a nice blush mask for the cheeks

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rokket ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2022 at 3:49 PM
Y-Phil posted at 2:25 PM Thu, 22 September 2022 - #4445054

Oh and red viper also provides with feg II a nice blush mask for the cheeks

Yeah, if I use V4, but I don't think it will work on Miki. Unless I can reverse engineer it.

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