Looks like Dawn 2 is finally being released. Soon. (Hopefully not DAZ soon, lol.) They're supposed to announce it tomorrow.

I can't wait. She really looks amazing.

Not in the RMP yet, but here's the announcement:

https://www.renderosity.com/article/28768/the-wait-is-over-hivewire-3ds-dawn-2

Hurray!  That is a figure I can get behind.

Promo renders looks stunning. Now just need to know a. when it will be out and b. which of those renders was done in which software.

Also, heads up, if you comment on the article linked above, it will be placed in moderation. I submitted one yesterday, it's still not posted. 

I understand the need to moderate, but that speed is a bit slow. 

Looks like they're afraid of less than enthusiastic comments.  Can't imagine why?  ;-P

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All I have to say is: If they would have wanted a better looking, better bending Dawn, they could have had that 11 years ago:

https://www.renderosity.com/forums/threads/2871446

For Free.

From the comments and such that have been posted over the years (!) at Hivewire, the emphasis isn't so much on better looking and better bending. They want to make her more morphable, easier for vendors to customize, and to take advantage of the new features of DS and Poser. Some of the "ethnic" faces posted are stunning.

I think that was the main problem with the original Dawn. It was so difficult to make her look different. She wasn't ugly, but she was instantly recognizable.

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RedPhantom posted at 11:34 AM Thu, 12 September 2024 - #4489236

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Cath said at Hivewire that Dawn 2 should be in the RMP next week, if all goes according to plan. (Knock on wood.)

Sweet, eager to try.

Can't wait to play dress-up with the new doll.

She's in the RMP now!!!!

Dawn 2 is out.
I've never liked the first Dawn, but Dawn 2 looks indeed very promising.

YES!!!!!!!!

I am so excited, I am ready to put her to work.

Well, after I download the new Poser interation & pay for what is in my cart.

Also, heads up, if you comment on the article linked above, it will be placed in moderation. I submitted one yesterday, it's still not posted. 

I understand the need to moderate, but that speed is a bit slow. 

Looks like they're afraid of less than enthusiastic comments.  Can't imagine why?  ;-P

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All I have to say is: If they would have wanted a better looking, better bending Dawn, they could have had that 11 years ago:

https://www.renderosity.com/forums/threads/2871446

For Free.

My computer has decided it hates Poser and won't run it. Mutter, grumble. No D2 renders for me today, unless I figure out what's going on. I have a feeling there's something wrong with my video card. 

My computer has decided it hates Poser and won't run it. Mutter, grumble. No D2 renders for me today, unless I figure out what's going on. I have a feeling there's something wrong with my video card. 

My initial experimentation in Poser 11 with conforming Dawn clothing items is encouraging. In fact, the situation is similar to what I discovered conforming La Femme garments to La Femme 2. Counter-intuitively, do not copy joint zones from. Moving the hip forward a bit gets most clothing about right, and a little work with the Morph Brush, and you are good to go. With shoes and boots, do not copy joint zones from. Pose the foot and toes, and you again are close enough to make things right with the Morph Brush. To me, this makes Dawn 2.0 immediately useful.

My computer has decided it hates Poser and won't run it. Mutter, grumble. No D2 renders for me today, unless I figure out what's going on. I have a feeling there's something wrong with my video card. 

Quick heads-up: I found that when I use "zero figure" on Dawn 2, it turns off the JCMs. Her joints don't all look great even with JCMs, but that's what dynamic clothes are for. Anyway, I think she's looking quite good overall and has a lot of neat features built in from the get-go.

Quick heads-up: I found that when I use "zero figure" on Dawn 2, it turns off the JCMs. Her joints don't all look great even with JCMs, but that's what dynamic clothes are for. Anyway, I think she's looking quite good overall and has a lot of neat features built in from the get-go.

DeeceyArt posted at 5:20 PM Sat, 14 September 2024 - #4489334

randym77 posted at 5:12 PM Fri, 13 September 2024 - #4489275

My computer has decided it hates Poser and won't run it. Mutter, grumble. No D2 renders for me today, unless I figure out what's going on. I have a feeling there's something wrong with my video card. 

Have you updated your video drivers lately?

I do have an old laptop with Poser on it. I can use that. Though I don't dare use Superfly on it.

So now that Dawn 2 is out and I've had it since like day 1...where the hell are all the cool, high res characters and clothing sets that I've seen over at Hivewire in their forums? the coolest thing I've seen so far is Ken's dial script for her.

Also there was ZERO fanfare about D2's release.The banner didn't even have ad copy on it so you knew what the hell it was selling.

ghostship2 posted at 3:14 PM Sun, 22 September 2024 - #4489611

So now that Dawn 2 is out and I've had it since like day 1...where the hell are all the cool, high res characters and clothing sets that I've seen over at Hivewire in their forums? the coolest thing I've seen so far is Ken's dial script for her.

Also there was ZERO fanfare about D2's release.The banner didn't even have ad copy on it so you knew what the hell it was selling.

I agree though, the lack of content right now probably doesn't help, especially after the long wait.

It is disappointing that there's not more stuff for Dawn 2, considering the delay. Literally years since they said she would be released soon. 

Though it sounds like part of it is changes to Superfly (and maybe DS as well?)  There have been two new versions of Poser released since work on D2 started.

And FWIW, Hivewire has opened a thread for D2 problems/questions:

Questions/Issues with Dawn 2? Ask them here - all welcome to help! | HiveWire 3D Community

odf posted at 6:45 PM Sat, 14 September 2024 - #4489339

Quick heads-up: I found that when I use "zero figure" on Dawn 2, it turns off the JCMs. Her joints don't all look great even with JCMs, but that's what dynamic clothes are for. Anyway, I think she's looking quite good overall and has a lot of neat features built in from the get-go.

Am I misunderstanding? I haven't really looked at the figure yet.

... why did you post that on a thread about Dawn2? Make your figure her own thread.

... why did you post that on a thread about Dawn2? Make your figure her own thread.

odf posted at 6:45 PM Sat, 14 September 2024 - #4489339

Quick heads-up: I found that when I use "zero figure" on Dawn 2, it turns off the JCMs. Her joints don't all look great even with JCMs, but that's what dynamic clothes are for. Anyway, I think she's looking quite good overall and has a lot of neat features built in from the get-go.

Hm. Well considering that a JCM, functioning as it should, is only "on" (value beyond zero up to 1 typically) as the result of a rotation beyond 0 degrees (a morph dependency attached to a joint rotation) naturally the JCMs will be at a zero state when the figure is zero in all rotations. If you mean that zeroing the figure causes a joint dependant morph subtract value operation to kick on and stay in an on state from there forward... well major bug there.

Am I misunderstanding? I haven't really looked at the figure yet.

Off-topic/inappropriate comment/images removed.

Wolfenshire posted at 12:07 AM Tue, 24 September 2024 - #4489671

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Sad, it was quiet interesting to see another ( NEW GIRL IN TOWN ) 

The Thread title is not specific for DAWN2 . You People whine about creators leaving poser, so ask your self why. 

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 2:13 PM Mon, 23 September 2024 - #4489646

... why did you post that on a thread about Dawn2? Make your figure her own thread.

Even though the thread title didn't mention Dawn 2 specifically, it was pretty clear that the thread was about Dawn 2.  I agree, the ball jointed figure should have been posted in its own thread.

Yes, the balljoint figure should have its own thread. Maybe someone would be interested in her, but not look here because they're not interested in D2.

Someone should post about the JCM thing in the Hivewire problems thread. I am currently Poser-less and can't see the problem for myself. (Hoping to get my computer back today.)

I know attempting of hijacking a thread when I see one, thanks, don't try to play innocent.

Thank you, moderation team.

I'd post something about D2 here to get us back on track, but haven't had the chance to get her yet, so if someone would please? :D

Here you go this is a conforming outfit for Dawn. Almost done !

Catch these ghosts ...

Just wondering , had no Idea about those terrorists in here Hijacking threads !

Looks great. And conforming, even. Seems like most clothing is dynamic these days. 

Here's another conforming set WIP. Still texturing. Larger version in my gallery.

I know attempting of hijacking a thread when I see one, thanks, don't try to play innocent.

Thank you, moderation team.

I'd post something about D2 here to get us back on track, but haven't had the chance to get her yet, so if someone would please? :D

I don't recall trying "to play innocent" of anything. Are you ladies thinking straight? Lol.

odf posted at 6:34 PM Mon, 23 September 2024 - #4489659

primorge posted at 12:07 PM Mon, 23 September 2024 - #4489640

odf posted at 6:45 PM Sat, 14 September 2024 - #4489339

Quick heads-up: I found that when I use "zero figure" on Dawn 2, it turns off the JCMs. Her joints don't all look great even with JCMs, but that's what dynamic clothes are for. Anyway, I think she's looking quite good overall and has a lot of neat features built in from the get-go.

Hm. Well considering that a JCM, functioning as it should, is only "on" (value beyond zero up to 1 typically) as the result of a rotation beyond 0 degrees (a morph dependency attached to a joint rotation) naturally the JCMs will be at a zero state when the figure is zero in all rotations. If you mean that zeroing the figure causes a joint dependant morph subtract value operation to kick on and stay in an on state from there forward... well major bug there.

Am I misunderstanding? I haven't really looked at the figure yet.

There's a control parameter for turning all JCMs on or off. Zero figure sets that to off.

So my JCM OFFs are thusly...

The internals of such a thing example...

Apologies for the perceived Hijack Snafu, and the OT about Dawn Dial Mysteries...

Adorable! Looks a little steampunk.

DeeceyArt posted at 12:33 PM Tue, 24 September 2024 - #4489698

Here's another conforming set WIP. Still texturing. Larger version in my gallery.

Yup it's steampunk.  Thanks!   

Remaking Carnie?

Remaking Carnie?

Here's another conforming set WIP. Still texturing. Larger version in my gallery.

A little late for Halloween I guess but having fun fitting outfits, not my usual workflow, still undecided weather supporting Dawn or another base, If , when.

Dawn with Halloween Prototype Outfit , fitting process .  

Nice. Definitely not too late for Halloween!

randym77 posted at 11:52 PM Wed, 25 September 2024 - #4489749

Nice. Definitely not too late for Halloween!

The skinning of Dawn is not transferred to the outfit like it is normally done, the outfit keeps it's own sinning adapted to it's structure resulting to bend naturally with the doll that is wearing it. By just having to adapt the joints it also leaves the option open for other dolls to wear. 

This is a prototype method I am trying to develop, it seems to give very promising results. the model outfit does not depend on a specific donor anymore. 

Versum posted at 11:15 AM Tue, 24 September 2024 - #4489695

Here you go this is a conforming outfit for Dawn. Almost done !

Catch these ghosts ...

In this example the Doll will be conformed to the outfit you control the outfit for movements, the outfit has no head joints this way the Dawn head in our case remains independent to Control. The small disadvantage is that Dawn Poses do not work perfectly on the outfit, Advantages are the superior smooth bending on the outfit skinned for the Model.  Dolls wearing clothes always get in conflict with the poses so at the end it does not really matter who is wearing who.