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Subject: Thigh boot comparison


praxis22 ( ) posted Tue, 13 November 2001 at 11:01 AM · edited Mon, 20 January 2025 at 12:56 PM

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Hi, I can't find my original post and I'm short on time so here goes... I posted earlier looking for thighboots (amongst other things :) so her for those that would like such a thing is a comparison of such boots as are available. Reading from right to left, socks (clothing pack) "thigh" boots (clothing pack) Lace-up boots (Billy-T store) thigh boots (ghastley, free from his site) and last but not least, vicky 1.0 (with 4.0.3 update applied in stock pose for purposes of size comparison. Fo my purposes the Ghastley boots are great, but not without problems... :) About which, "more later" :) later jb


praxis22 ( ) posted Tue, 13 November 2001 at 11:03 AM

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The problem with the boots can be seen above, this is what happens when you try to conform the boots to the figure... later jb


praxis22 ( ) posted Tue, 13 November 2001 at 11:06 AM

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And finally... This is what happens when you turn inverse kinematics off on the boots, (by selecting the boot heel) which makes maters a little better, but it's still a pain. In the end I gave up with trying to conform them and moved them as close as I could manually then turned off the shin the foot and the toe and parented the thigh of the boot to vickies thigh. Anyone with a better solution will be thanked profusely! :) later jb


praxis22 ( ) posted Tue, 13 November 2001 at 11:08 AM

Note, the reason the figure has changed poses was at the time I tried everything possible to get the boots into the "right" place, and the quickest way to get get arched feet was to use the VV default pose... later jb


3ddave44 ( ) posted Tue, 13 November 2001 at 12:54 PM

I wonder if Ghastley's boots that you're trying are for some other Vicky figure like SuperModel Vicky (sometimes seen as SMV) or maybe Dina or one of those figures... Dave J


thip ( ) posted Tue, 13 November 2001 at 1:07 PM

There may be some initial values in the boot's settings that are added to those of the target figure. You might want to try this: o Start a new scene - add the boot o Select Window - Joint Editor o Click Zero Figure in the JE o Select Edit - Memorize - Figure o Save the boot to library with a new name Start a new scene, add Vicki, then the boot. Turn off IK, and conform the boot to Vicki, more or less like the steps that brought you to 3) above. Good luck ;-)


Jim Burton ( ) posted Tue, 13 November 2001 at 2:54 PM

Yep, it does look like the boots are expecting "high-heel" feet, does any figure or character other than SMV, SMMV and SMD have them?


otaku ( ) posted Tue, 13 November 2001 at 3:45 PM

Try keeping the feet flat footed and making the shin, foot and toes invisible. I also think this pair came with a morph for vickie thighs to narrow them for the boots.


RealitysPoison ( ) posted Tue, 13 November 2001 at 3:58 PM

I know that I used Ghastly's boots for one of the playing cards I did. I think what I did was start with Vicki in the default pose, make her feet invisible, and after conforming them I only had to adjust the boots a little. It worked fine, and wasn't actually that much work. Angela


Jim Burton ( ) posted Tue, 13 November 2001 at 6:08 PM

You know, I sort of try and keep the feet in the shoes/boots, and have them fit, it is sort of an honor thing, I guess! Regular Vickie can be made to wear heels, I'm talking about real heels, not the little ones that come with her clothing pack. It took me a long time to do it though, as you have to call up the mysterious "offsets" that most haven't even seen, let alone used, and play with them. I am totally unable to model a really high heel flat, which really would be the correct way to do it, I have to model it as it would look finished, to judge the proportions. Those boots actually look like they are for another figure...


praxis22 ( ) posted Wed, 14 November 2001 at 5:57 AM

Hi, Cheers, Thip! I've not tried that, but in the spirit of experimentation, I'll give it a try :) Otaku, as you'll note from the second image, I did try with flat feet first, both with and without IK, on both figure and boot, in every possible combination.... Jim, "you da man!" :) I've not tried the boots on SMV, but being a great fan of her legs I wouldn't dream of covering them up! :P I'm also pretty sure the boots hail from a time before the release of SMV, and they are definately for Vicky 1.0 both the page and the readme say so, they were apparently made for a different character than the base V1, (according to the readme) but since the geometry doesn't change I figure it ought to work. They're also built for flat feet, you can see that when you move them about in 'box' mode, also, once you move them into place before you parent them, the heel is sticking out the back of the boot. If you conform the boots with a high heel pose they completely screw up the boot, they elongate and look like they belong to a particually twisted dwarf/elf :) the setting above in picture two has every dial set to 0. While in pic no.3 Vic's foot is at 45, so the boot tries to follow. I can actually get them to fit almost perfectly, except for the heel sticking out the back of the boot, (with the boot flat, and the figure's foot arched...) Right, time for lunch! :) later jb


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