I had to reinstall Vue 4.00 due to the weirdness that 4.06 was doing to Vue itself and my OS. 4.03 was usable but I was thinking about updating to 4.05. Any comments on the good and bad aspects of 4.05? thanks in advance to those who leave an opinion.

Hi Droyd . . . 8^) For what it's worth, on my system, Vue 4.06 is working the best of all the upgrades. As far as your question goes, I also had very good results when I used the full upgrade 4.05, installed over a fresh install of Vue 4. I think the biggest problem with all of the updates or patches is, there are so many different system configurations, that so many users are getting different results. Anyway, if you try the 4.05 upgrade & it doesn't work well for you, all you have to do is uninstall Vue 4.05 & reinstall the version that works the best for you. Good luck in which ever choice you make, & I hope you find the best upgrade, so you can create in Vue with no problems. Have a good one . . . Mark. ;^)

Droyd, please go to e-on's site and read what has changed in the 06 update. Also you may judge what is missing in Vue 4.05. Guitta

heyas; i'm using 4.05 now, and it has been pretty good. hmmm... :: no, haven't lost any renders, haven't crashed after tinkering with the material summary. doing pretty well with it, actually. no major disasters to report. but i still save often! your mileage may vary, though ;)

For sure bloodsong, but in Vue 4.05 auto-decay is not saved in standard atmospheres, sunlight masked by clouds is not restored when you click cancel, very noisy material comes out when mapping imported meshes with metal (just try the Mercedes from Vue 4 and map it with silver), panoramics don't render properly and many other things... using Vue 4.05 or Vue 4.06 only depends on each users requirement:-) Guitta

... and you can't render animations in AVI format, and the alpha channel is corrupted on "saved to disk" render, etc...

I think we should all work with the same version of VUE (the latest). It's then easier to compare bugs/problems. Moreover e-on won't support "old" versions of VUE 4...

bloodsong, droyd and the others you should all install VUE 4.06-02 !

:) Eric

G'Day. Adding my 2 cents worth as well. Upgraded to 4.06, totally unable to save alpha/primary and depth files to any folder other than the Vue/pictures, and even then "disk space errors" were occuring, plenty of space, 30GB and 79GB on other drive. Went back to fresh 4.00, upgraded in steps, 4.01, 4.03full and 4.05, had to do this as I purchased 5 plants form Vue online, and totally unable to load them as per their doc, thus the need to try each upgrade till the damn plants would create/load properly. Anyway, plants are ok, saving aplha's works fine to other drives, folders, also 4.05 is faster than 4.06 for finding files, mixing mat's, slower than 4.00 and 4.01, but I needed those plants. I'm am sticking on 4.05, and will probably stay right there. Sorry for the gample but thought it might help. Best wishes to all. Gary

Just thought I'd chime in here. After the comments about .06 I thought I'd try it and see how it was. I actually had better results with 4.03. I had all sorts of problems with 06. I couldn't render to disk without unchecking the saving of the alpha and depth images. I still locked up at 99% render completion and although I was able to shut down Vue and not have to cntrl alt delete out of it as in 4.03 it still froze. I was able to have a little conversation with Steve at Eon and one of his comments was that one of the things mine was doing was supposedly a bug that was fixed "long ago". Vue even gave me program opening problems that I never had with previous versions. So, appparently some versions work well for some people and their systems and some versions work better for others. After I load .05 I'll see how that works.

By experience with many Vue users I have observed the following: All (ALL!) users who had problems in the beginning with the 06 update had not any more trouble when they: 1. Uninstalled Vue completely, including all Vue.ini files, registry entries etc. 2. Installed Vue 4 from the CD and then installed directly the 06 update. Guitta

Sorry to mention, I did try that option as well, deleted every VUE folder, registry enties, defraged disks, so as not to re-install over older deleted file space, installed 4.00 again, then upgraded direct to 4.06, however when attempting to use the right mouse on render options, the new opened panel, would be completly illegible, black characters all over the place, options could not be seen, tried this on win98 SE machine, win 200 pro, and NT, same problem. Will watch the forum, may even try it again at work, thanks again Guitta. Gary

Why the right mouse (button)?

G'Day Guitta, sorry , attached is the right mouse option for render display options, this was on a fresh copy of v.4.00, newly installed on win2000 pro, multi disked PC, and networked to about 30 other PC's.and it saved ok to disk. Also then I downloaded a fresh 4.06 install exe,(full install), and the following display "disk space error" occured, yet the option display panel was legable this time, on win98, it was not. Sorry mate. hope it helps someone.

Hi Gary, I cannot try right now, have to wait my machine is back. But I must say I have never called this menu with the right mouse button (LOL) Have you tried to call the render options just normally with the left mouse button in clicking at PICTURE? Do you get the same message? I have never seen it. Can there be a problem because your machine is on a large network? Or that hou have only a certain space allocated to your machine? I'm not a technician at all, just thinking what could be the reason. Guitta

I'll try a bunch of options tomorrow, will reinstall on a single machine and run many options. Thanks mate.

Well just tried getting to 4.06 on different machines. Stand alone Win98, SE, installed 4.00, updated direct to 4.06, still having same error writing file on alpha planes, even to the vue/picture folder, nothing else on this pc except window/photoshop and vue, 40GB drive. Non network Win2000 pro, installed 4.00, updated to 4.06 direct, same issues, multi drive machines, other software, space no problems, all microsoft patches applied by network, no other issues, can not save alpha's. Reinstalled 4.0 again cleanly, updated each upgrade, got to 4.06, same issue this on both machines, each had a fresh download of the 4.06 upgrade, however noticed that one download was 9.147MB, the other was 9.1469mb, on T1 lines, ??, possible download issues, tried again and got 9.147 twice, same alpha save problem. Sorry folks, but am gonna stay at 4.05, does all that I need with the only occassional "vue not responding issue" when rednering to screen, can manage with that. Also tried using just the render options directly without right-mouse on the picure-icon, same issue. Gary.

Gary, I have yet to update my newly loaded Vue 4 and I appreciate your efforts in giving 06 a good workout and posting your results here. I'm glad to hear 05 isn't giving you similar problems. Guitta, Thanks also for your efforts. I'm going to update to 05 and see how that works for me. Just one more thing I'll mention in case this happens to anyone or your thinking of doing something (dumb?) I did. When I had 06 running one thing I did without thinking was when Vue froze up after a "99%" render and I restarted it, I chose not to save the "interrupted renders" on start up. After that I couldn't open Vue anymore. So my advice to anyone is always save your interrupted renders if Vue freezes up or you may cause some other problems you don't want. Whatever happened because of that affected Poser, Photoshop and windows in general until I uninstalled Vue and reinstalled it. Thanks to everyone that posted a reply here.