I just received Carrara 2 today, and it refuses to run on my Mac 7300. The Carrara 2 demo also refused to run.

I get the same error message, "... NavigationLib could not be found" with both the demo and the full version.

I sent Eovia support an email, and have not heard anything back yet.

I am using OS 8.1 which Eovia indicates is compatible with Carrara 2.0

I upgraded to a 450 Mhz Sonnet G4 processor card, but still am using the original Apple video hardware (no 3D chipset). I'm upgrading to Quicktime 5, but I don't think this is the problem.

So now I'm thinking I need to upgrade to OS X . Yes, I can run OS X (though Apple won't support it on the 7300) thanks to the Sonnet card and a patcher for OS X.

I'd appreciate any suggestions....?

(I already have a PC... any other suggestions?)

Chris

This may be an abvious question but do you have Carbon Lib installed in your system folder? If you do I believe it has to be version 1.2 or older as the later versions do not run with 8.1. If you can, upgrade to OS 9. If you already have OS X then it also came with 9.1 As an FYI, the interface lib error you are getting relates to the Mac Toolbox API on classic os's. So if installing carbon lib does not do the trick, you may need to reinstall 8.1. -Paul

Hi Chris, You could try to reinstall because it seems that sometimes the installer will not write a file properly on Macs . PS : nodody will tell you to buy a PC here if you're on Mac . That's what's so good with nice forums ;) litst

Chris,
Not sure what a Mac 7300 came with originally, but I seem to remember in the MC days that they explicitely said that the minimum machine was a Power Macintosh G3 - 266Mhz or better and processor upgrade cards were not supported. I know some folks had luck getting it to work, but eovia may not have fixed whatever problem or limitation that prompted Metacreations to stress no upgrade cards so strongly. Their warnings was what helped me make my decision to just buy a new machine instead of trying to pop a harmoni into the old iMac.

Good luck,
Eric Winemiller
Digital Carvers Guild
Freeware and commercial 3D extensions
http://digitalcarversguild.com

Try upgrading to 8.6, it is much better than 8.1 altough you might need to get more RAM.
If you go to OS X defenetly get more RAM

C2 works on my 7500 with a G4/400 XLR8 7600 G3/300 Sonnet 9600 G4/450 Sonnet All of them run fine on 8.6 and 9.1 OS Graphic cards are ATI Rage 16 megs that utilize open GL although the GL doesn't work correctly for preview Just curious, have you tried running OSX on the 7300? HAWK999

Paul - Thanks for the CarbonLib tip! Installing CarbonLib 1.0.4 fixed the problem. I searched the Apple knowledgebase for CarbonLib and NavigationLib, and got the right version of CarbonLib to work with OS 8.1 litst - Glad to hear that! I stopped using my Mac about 2 years ago, and bought a PC, because of PC apps exclusively using a parallel port dongle. There are now cross platform USB keys available, and my FormZ license is now being converted to this USB key, so I can swap it from my Mac to my PC. I hope the other software vendors will also do the same. Eric - I hope that Carrara 2 has overcome the upgrade card limitation. I can't afford a new Mac now, and the Sonnet G4 card bundled with 128Mb RAM was a great deal. I'll see how well this card works with Carrara in the near future. cristianr- I have 192Mb now - how much more would I need? The RAM for the older Macs is EXPENSIVE !!! Thank You All !!! Chris

HAWK999- I don't have OS X yet. I plan to purchase it within a few months. I have heard about the distributed processing capabilities of OS X, and am curious if anyone with several Macs is able to take advantage of this yet. Do the applications have to be rewritten for OS X in order for this to work? I see you have a few older Macs. Can you get OS X running on any of them? Chris

Chris, Dean Dauger (from UCLA) is "the man" when it comes to multi-processor, parellel and cluster-node set-ups for Mac OS 9 & 10. He has been able to achive 6 GFlops/sec on a cluster of four PPC G4s (whatever that means). He's really into Quantum Mechanics & Computers in Physics, real "Treck" stuff. He has a couple applications to help set this up and has info on codeing for MP systems at his sites: http://www.dauger.com/ http://exodus.physics.ucla.edu/appleseed/appleseed.html OSX will help with mp but the application really needs to be written properly to take real advantage of it. He has info on that also if you are into codeing. (Get that "Atom in a Box" while there, it's really interesting)

Chris.

I haven't tried OSX on my older macs because I use them for rendering , video ,audio and graphic work all the time and they function very well.

Rumor has it that you can run OSX, but from what I heard it might be very buggy still. I would rather wait to get a native G4 for wich it was designed for.

I also don't want to buy software that might not work on my system

HAWK999

I know that C2 is written for MP, but I believe only within one machine. I have a dual 1G G4 (LOVE IT!) and I dual boot for OSX and OS 9.2.1, and both work great with C2. (9.2.1 worked fine for C1 as well) C2 works so much faster now, but of course now they have GI, which is a MAJOR render hog! (GI used with animations is going to have to wait for a while I think!) Willf- does your friends cluster technique work for any program? I should would love to render-farm from within C2! (I wish they implimented THAT in the new upgrade!)

bluetone I don't know that much about the appleseed project except that it looks really interesting. Dean has poped into a few posts from one of the 3D threads I've seen to offer help at optimizing programs to work with MP systems. From what I can comprehend the Pooch program will allow most programs to benefit from render farm set-ups over TCP/IP . I don't have the oppurtunity to check it out (wish I did), you might just send him an email & see what comes of it. My guess is that if C2 is programmed to use MP then this appleseed thing will work fine if you have several machines.