I bookmark threads that I want to watch. I usually put"bookmarked"in the subject line so the recipients of the e bot can see that it's just a bookmark and don't have to come back here just to read"bookmarked" "Tagged" is a new one on me too. But I'm familiar with "Moron Factor". I'm part of that equation some of the time...lol Tom

I'm part of that equation some of the time I must have blinked and missed that Hawkfyr, can't say I've ever noticed.

lol..You've been in the staff forums at the 3DC Questor,I'm sure you have seen it there... 8 ) Tom

Nope. Not that I recall. I remember you being very self effacing and sometimes more apologetic for your comments than you needed to be, but mostly I remember you being an honest, friendly guy who was great fun to talk to. We all make fools of ourselves sometimes but very few people are prepared to stand and admit it. You always did. I respect that in a person same as I respect someone who's outgoing and friendly. You always were. Moron factor? No, just an ordinary guy mostly having fun, often at his own expense.

Hmmm... no reply to this yet?? Damn, I want to know what this means. Jack

xoconostle gets the prize!!! Clip----------- "Tagging" in this context sounds to me sort of like what "trolling" is on Usenet. If anyone doesn't know, that means posting a deliberately provocative post for no better reason than to upset people. Roughly. Trolls usually don't actually care about the issues, they just want to get a reaction and feel superior or powerful because they actually pushed some buttons. It's pretty lame. End clip--------------------------------

So why not just say "trolling", since it's a term that most people know and is easily found by those who don't? And one that is actually in the TOS?

This is my unofficial opinion on it. Trolling is doing things like going through people's galleries and harassing them or posting lots of threads emotionally provocative threads. (I'm not talking Nekkid Vic threads.) It's a first strike sort of deal. Tagging is putting irrelevant, inflamatory remarks in the middle or end of already existing threads. If I went through all the OT threads, regardless of content and posted, "Oh, and Spike sucks!" that would be tagging. (Sorry, Spike, you made for an easy target!) ;-) Personally, I see Trolling as Stalking, while Tagging is like grafitti'ing. Again, just my opinion. I'm not speaking for any one else here on this one. I've been running around, getting stuff done for another forum or I would have wandered in and started opinionating sooner. Cheers!

Thank you Crescent. That's about the first coherent explanation I've seen. Makes sense too. Well, finally I've got a clue what tagging in the forums is. I can go to sleep, peaceful in the knowledge that my day has been enriched. Seriously though, thanks Crescent, that explanation actually sounds plausible. :)

And I got a clear answer that makes sense, and Crescent is pretty much right on the mark. It likens a common forum behavior to the graffiti mentioned at the top of this thread, and: "In this case the member in question was "tagging" threads concerning poser 5. Not replying to them in a legitimate way, but spamming them." Now can we relax?

Do we honestly need new vocabulary web-word added the the TOS? Call a spade a spade and a troll a troll.

Oh boy, I win the prize? Is it sort of like that nice big prize Jimmy Carter just won? ;-) Seriously, thanks to Spike and others for the clarifications. This thread piqued my curiosity. I guess my only other comment is that we should be careful not to label people as "taggers" unless the alleged tagger is an obvious repeat offender (or warez enthusiast) just as surely as we shouldn't label people "morons" for venting unpopular opinions. I tend to agree with Kendra, but I do see the intended distinction between "tagger" and "troll." Don't you just hate it when those weird flying things around Area 51 turn out to be nothing more than experimental aircraft, made by humans?

you get threads like this one....! poof oops....

Yet another meaningless rule from the control freaks that run this pl Bzzzzzztttttt! poof

Ok, I don't really know, but here's a theory that has not been presented ... Could it be when someone adds a link to their post that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but merely as FREE advertising or some such nonesense? -Tim

Okay, here's another theory ...

Posting a thread TITLE that is extremely incendiary or provoking, which is also COMPLETELY FALSE ... the thread has nothing to do with the title.

With the sole intent, of course, to get people to read a thread that they normally wouldn't have even blinked at, let alone read.

If that is not it, they need to come up with a term for that and enforce it. Personally, I call it "being a jackass" but I doubt that would fly. You could shorten it to BAJING ... hee-hee! :) -Tim

no no no you're all wrong, it's finding a nice long thread & typing things like "b/m, bookmark" in them, oh heck now I'm going to get the email from hell :(

So far, I like Crescent's explanation. I hope that's the right one. It makes the most sense and it a policy I can live with.

Err... nice try Spike.

Give a dog a bad name, and hang him.

Maybe you can extend the TOS:
Blogging, logging and jogging are violations of the TOS.

Now if someone posts a nonconform message he was blogging, logging or even jogging and...

poof

I'm with Mab on this. I think Crescent's explanation is entirely plausible and fits within the scenario that "tagging" was applied to. The accused in this case had been "spraying grafitti" across several threads, marking several Poser 5 related threads with his opinion on the software. Not entirely sure that it warranted a warning because it is his opinion and while he has been militant posting complaints he's not been insulting nor has he attacked anybody nor has he really been particularly controversial. But, yep... he did hit several threads and add to them with a post that was likely to get a response. I like Crescent's explanation it makes sense. I'm also inclined to think that the other moderator in this was heavy handed and unnecessarily vague and off-hand about clearing the confusion - probably didn't know what it mean it just sounded cool. He read it in mod forum once maybe. :)

"I'm also inclined to think that the other moderator in this was heavy handed and unnecessarily vague and off-hand about clearing the confusion - probably didn't know what it mean it just sounded cool. He read it in mod forum once maybe. :)" Awwww... now they're gonna lock the thr poof

LOL. I doubt they'll lock the thread yet. More than likely just hope that it'll die on it's own. I'm not convinced of that as there are other issues at hand that haven't been answered. The definition of "tagging" has been, to my satisfaction anyway. Now we just need to find another moderator to browbeat into sharing relevant information about stuff. Crescent may have set a very dangerous precedent. I don't know about anyone else here but I'm not used to straight answers from Renderosity moderators. :)

Questor > Now we just need to find another moderator to browbeat into sharing relevant information about stuff. I hold him, you beat his brows. ;) j/k, I would never personal attack someone at Renderosity, that would be against the Holy TOS. ;P

LOL @ MadYuri

{we are told that "tagging" is an offense against the TOS (but not mentioned anywhere in the TOS, BTW),} Haven't you checked today's version of the TOS? It changes so often. One person will get a "talking to" about an issue, but another person won't. One mod will say something is "bad", but another will let it slide. One merchant will get "in trouble" for "advertising", but a top-selling merchant will not. But, again, this is a private site, so any cries of "censorship" won't work. The owners can allow what they want (or delete what they don't like) at their own discretion.

Yep, kind of like getting pulled over for speeding. Sometimes you get a ticket, sometimes you get a warning. We have to treat each and every one on it's own merits.

"In this case the member in question was "tagging" threads concerning poser 5. Not replying to them in a legitimate way, but spamming them." Uhm, so now the staff will be deciding what comments are "legitimate"? So by that definition anytime a thread is potentially taken off it's original subject it is "tagging" "But, again, this is a private site, so any cries of "censorship" won't work. The owners can allow what they want (or delete what they don't like) at their own discretion. " So true, it's just frustrating when these things aren't in the TOS and that same TOS is used like a battering ram to beat someone into line. But if you don't like the unspoken rules one can always leave or take a hiatus - maybe by the time you come back they will have decided exactly what they are against/for. BTW - I wonder did any other mods know the meaning of this or that it was a violation - or did a certain someone simply have a snit fit and decide it annoyed him so he should make it a violation on his own? Was it discussed prior to it happening as a problem and violation?

A few areas of the TOS apply in this case: 1. Members and users are expected to conduct themselves in a manner that is constructive and respectful of others at all times. 2. Any practices that affect the normal operations of the community (Admins will take whatever steps are necessary to restore service). 3. Destructive commentary/communications made with the intent to disrupt or attack (Trolling). This applies to any communications within this community, whether in the forums, art galleries, graffiti wall, chat, or IM. 4. As a member/user of Renderosity, it is your responsibility to know, and adhere to the Terms of Service. Trolling, Tagging, call it what you want, the name is not the point here, it's what he was doing.

Spike, do admins and mods count as members? Because then those 4 points would apply to them too.

Yes they do. If you have a problem with a Mod or Admin, please contact Tammy. admin@renderosity.com Att: Tammy Thanks Spike

Thanks Spike.
I don't run to mummy with every little problem. ;)
Right now it is good enough for me that the TOS is a great equalizer.

"4. As a member/user of Renderosity, it is your responsibility to know, and adhere to the Terms of Service." Apparently it's our job to anticpiate changes in and intuit the unwritten "rules" of the TOS, as well.

We did not change any rules. Like I said, Trolling, Tagging, call it what you want, the name is not the point here, it's what he was doing. Before everyone jumps on this bandwaggon, This is over! Crescent cleared it up...

I am not going to let this thread get to the same point the last one did. If you have a problem with a Mod or Admin, please contact Tammy. admin@renderosity.com Att: Tammy Locked