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Subject: The Troll Thang


Questor ( ) posted Wed, 11 December 2002 at 10:50 PM

Jaqui scribbled you sticking But what is he sticking to? Is the sticky stuff he's sticking to commercially available or is it still in the testing stages? Does it have general application capabilities or is it designed just for sticking forum members to something and what is the something it's designed to stick people to? and scrawled some more low life sob Hrrm, so what's the difference between sorrow for a low life and sorrow for high life? Is this stating that only low life types can sob? Do high life people not cry/weep/sob or do they have other means of portraying something that apparently is the sole domain of a low life so that they aren't associated with a low life. It's been my experience that high life entities go out of their way to avoid resembling low life entities even though the larger majority of high life entities actually do low life things more often than a low life. Do they have their tear glands removed perhaps? Enquiring minds want to know? Jaqui fell over the space bar cyber stretch And how far can cyber stretch. Cyber is the intro part of the term cybernetics, cyberspace and cybercafe etc.. I've not seen them stretch too far as they all have limits and cyberspace unlike real space doesn't show the reactions to gravity that normal space does, nor does it appear to follow any rational definitions of space because it's actually pretty crowded. And if cyber can't stretch does that mean that inorganic limb replacements containing power cells and nerve/neural interfacing to operate similar to a natural limb wouldn't have the same bending stretching qualities as a normal limb making them no fun on a rack when torturing people? And if a woodchuck was cybered, how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if the woodchuck could chuck wood? Back on topic And finally... this new rule that is used to wield old rules strikes me as a knee jerk reaction to several things that could have easily been avoided if only existing rules were applied evenly across the board for everyone on this place rather than randomly applied unevenly by people who judge things by an internal grading machine rather than site rules utilising eroneous definitions such as "moron factor" and "non-constructive negative" and similar such nonsense, and allow the "all members are equal but some are more equal than others" atmosphere to propogate in the first place. Also, Renderosity management were more than aware of the consequences of closing and deleting the old C&D forum. While that forum was universally ridiculed by large numbers of people it did have the advantage of keeping certain topics comfortably encased within it's walls and having a happy and generous crew available ready to flame/discuss anything into oblivion. Once that forum and it's "tension release" facilities were removed it was predictable that topics previously trapped in there would over-flow to other forums. Creating the OT forum for "discussion" was laughable. Reinstate C&D and use it once again as the general dumping ground of all posts not seen as desirable to have in other forums and things will quieten down to their pre-C&D deletion days. Alternatively burn Curious Labs, Microsoft, NVIAT image makers and AOL at the stake on the Whitehouse Lawn and perhaps a lot of the current "heated debates" will go away and leave the Disneyfication of Renderosity to continue unabated.


Lyrra ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 12:40 AM

These are not new rules. These are the old rules stated in plain language for those who seem to be unable to interpret them as they are stated in the TOS. This and the previous announcements are merely to let you all know that they will in fact be enforced by an annoyed moderator (me) The Powers that be have authorised me to enforce the TOS more than I have previously. If you are not in the habit of picking fights and being rude to people, than you have nothing to worry about. This is the last response I will make to this thread. Have a nice day Lyrra the Seriously Vexed (Moderator)



Mosca ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 1:07 AM

"If you are not in the habit of picking fights and being rude to people, than you have nothing to worry about." Uh-oh....


Mosca ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 1:12 AM

"the Disneyfication of Renderosity" Love it. But trust me when I say C&D will NEVER be reinstated. No skateboarding in the mall!


Ironbear ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 1:12 AM

Reads over thread, boggles All this because I made Nosfiratu have a hissy? Wow! oh wait - must add something constructive Ummm... I agree with PJF. Have fruitful Renders. Mice ROCK! <----- Ironbear the seriously bemused.

"I am a good person now and it feels... well, pretty much the same as I felt before (except that the headaches have gone away now that I'm not wearing control top pantyhose on my head anymore)"

  • Monkeysmell


Questor ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 1:24 AM

Oh I know that Mosca, the PTB here have managed to show a considerable ability to miss grasping reality on many occassions. I'm resigned to the fact that it's an ongoing thing that basically is worthy of pointing and snickering at but little else. Ironbear stumbled into his keyboard Have fruitful Renders.* Erm, constructive... oh erm. err... Oh I'm not good at constructive stuff. I know. Try adding a clothing item to NVIAT scenes and find out how easy it is to add clothing to poser figures. There, even managed a learning thing too. Cool. :) Ironbear. Mice suck, especially cutesy blasted mice in clothing and houses that have Stuart Little superiority complexes. Should be turned into roadkill. Oh wait, that's not constructive that's non-constructive negative. Oh oops... Oh no, I'm going to be disappeared. Eek These are not new rules. No, they're not, just ambiguously stated reinforcement of existing rules creating a possibility open to vast amounts of interpretation and application shrug Would have been better off posting the relevant section of the TOS than re-interpreting it. :) Where's my mouse ears?


Lapis ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 1:40 AM

You guys are just sooooooo negative. Stop it. Stop it I say. I can't bear to hear it all. I'm trying to develop thicker skin and all but my epidermal cloning project has hit a slight glitch. Need more time. Okay now for something positive. Happy happy joy joy. Happy happy joy joy. Not positive enough you say....then how about... It's a small world after all, it's a small world after all. It's a small world after all, its a small, small, world. How's that for balance at Disneyosity?


bikermouse ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 5:32 AM

Iron Bear, Yeah, Mice Rock! - TJ


3-DArena ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 7:11 AM

Lyrra - that's teh point - in a way. There should have been no need to state this it's the TOS after all - except that adding the rendering engine and OS is a brand new spin - and since it's only in this the Poser forum it seems a bit obvious. Disagreements are not "picking fights". I wonder though since DAZ creates Poser items and will have Studio will they get their own forum? Or will it just be a Studio forum?


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KBran1 ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 7:59 AM

Dont know much about the troll thing, But I'd like to say to everyone, Have a Merry Holiday and a Wonderful new year! I look forward to seeing all of your new art! Poser is a delightful gallery, as a newbie, I just love the renders that are there now and look forward to more! Be safe! Kathy


KBran1 ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 8:00 AM

And Scott...... I love the boat!


elgeneralisimo ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 8:02 AM

All mice outside of those subjected to gratuitously torturous experimentation in laboratories should be exterminated for the disease laden vermin they are.


bikermouse ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 9:20 AM

Look at the mouse photo gallery on this
URL. Hey they've had their shots - poor guys. They make great pets, I'll bet.

On the other hand you may be able to grow new teeth rather than get dentures sometime in the far future thanks to the brave little lab mice. When L.D. said he couldn't find any mouse teeth picts I did a search and found this out - alas no picts of teeth.

  • TJ
    (bikermouse wanders off remembering the Star Trek episode "The Trouble With Tribbles" and wonders if they've perfected 'transporters' yet.)


DefaultGuy ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 11:20 PM

"All this because I made Nosfiratu have a hissy? Wow!" snicker The following is my personal opinion as a fellow Renderosity member posting on my personal time, not as an employee of Curious Labs, Inc. - Don't flatter yourself, Ironbear. If you hadn't bothered to read my last post to: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=991590 I take responsibility for this debacle you seem to be proud of. I wrote: "All, I am the one to blame for Anthony's decision to leave this forum permanently. On Saturday, I created these test scenes in response to a user having problems setting up his rendering options for FireFly. Late Saturday night, Anthony asked me if I could post the first scene and I said sure. He also asked Joe Grover if he could post his test scene with the Elephant. I sincerely didn't think posting these images would cause so much controversy and Anthony's decision to leave. I can not ask him to reconsider. He is a dignified person and friend who I dare not question his decision or reason for doing so. But please accept my apologies for ever letting him post. I accept all the blame. No one else." Now, before you go put on your paint, start beating on your chest for your self-proclaimed victories and start whooping out a rebel yell, think of all the negativity you caused on this forum. Personally, I think you are the one that gets into these "hissy" fits on the Poser forum but can't own up to it. You should call yourself "Ironbore", because your humor and tact, quite frankly, bore me. I really do hope you are thicked skinned, but your callousness already reveals that. To everyone reading this post, I leave with a positive, personal wish: Have a safe and happy holiday season and be well. Looking forward to hearing from you all in the New Year! -DefaultGuy


ScottA ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 11:34 PM

Ouch! Brian. As much as you are correct about Ironbear being a major pain in the ass. I would like to offer some friendly advice: Don't poke the bear. It will only make him louder. He may snore occasionally. But he doesn't make any noise when he's asleep. ;-) Get outta here any enjoy your vacation already. ScottA


Ironbear ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 11:36 PM

snicker Heh. But I can snicker in living technicolor. ;] I am pretty thick skinned. But that's only needed dealing with someone like PJF who is actually skilled at what you just tried. ;] Have a happy holiday.

"I am a good person now and it feels... well, pretty much the same as I felt before (except that the headaches have gone away now that I'm not wearing control top pantyhose on my head anymore)"

  • Monkeysmell


DefaultGuy ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 11:49 PM

See ya ScottA!!! Have a great holiday season. I'll be back when it's bear season...


Nosfiratu ( ) posted Thu, 12 December 2002 at 11:51 PM

"All this because I made Nosfiratu have a hissy? Wow!" How little you know me, Ironbear.


Lapis ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 12:04 AM

"As much as you are correct about Ironbear being a major pain in the ass." Question for mods: Is this a personal attack and if so, what are the repercussions for this. Just want to know what the rules are and if they will be evenly applied across the board.


bikermouse ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 12:08 AM

Relax guys, it's duck season. Let's all go have a beer at The CrazyHorse Saloon in Phoenix! cheers, - TJ


Lapis ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 12:14 AM

My point is if IB or maybe a few others directed this kind of obvious personal attack they'd be issued there walking papers. Perhaps its goose season as in whats good for the goose is good for the gander. ...and now for that big, bad lock.


Ironbear ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 12:27 AM

Doan sweat it Lapis. DefaultGuy... or possibly more accurately "raebnori", isn't large caliber enough to do "bear season". Strictly small bore. ;] Wabbit Season, Bikermouse. ;]

"I am a good person now and it feels... well, pretty much the same as I felt before (except that the headaches have gone away now that I'm not wearing control top pantyhose on my head anymore)"

  • Monkeysmell


DefaultGuy ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 12:47 AM

Sure, Tj, if the beer at CrazyHorse Saloon is frothy and cold, I'm game. Maybe, I can stop over in Phoenix when the Diamondbacks win the Series a second time! My best, -DefaultGuy


DefaultGuy ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 12:51 AM

...oh did I say bear season? I meant to say, I'll be back when the beer is in... Must be the cellular static.


ScottA ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 1:13 AM

Lapis. My message was not a personal attack because I didn't call Ironbear an ass. I just aknowledged the fact that he acts like one. My message was actually in defense of Ironbear in a round about way. I didn't want to see another war start over his mouth. However, Since you're so concerned about people being treated equally. And since you're so eager to see me get some kind of reprimand. I feel compelled to not let you down. Therefore: I feel that it's appropriet to say at this time that you've been a bit of a pain in the ass yourself since you've crawlled in here. Saying nothing but stupid and negative things and not helping anyone do anything except to form a lynch party against CL and their employees. At no time have you said anything that's remotely intelligent. And we are all dumber for reading what you've written up to this point. It's policy to give out warnings to people privately. But I request that the warning that I deserve for printing this personal attack on Lapis be posted here in this thread. So that he and his other little ban of idiots will see that the rules apply to me as well as them. LET ME HAVE IT! :-) ScottA


Hisminky ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 1:21 AM

/me runs in and smacks Scott around with a wet noodle. Behave or I will have to get the BORE worms! (10 points to anyone who can guess that movie reference)


CryptoPooka ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 1:25 AM

"Flash Gordon ... is ALIVE?"


Hisminky ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 1:30 AM

I had a... thing... for Klytus. Wish someone would model him. (hint hint)


Questor ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 2:41 AM

Oooh... Fascinating. The children have come out to play in their new sandbox. Cool. :)


bikermouse ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 2:51 AM

Hisminky, "Rath of Khan" on Alpha Ceti V. The Bore Worms were the only indigenous life form left on that planet after AC VI was destroyed causing disaterous climataic change on AC V. or something like that. or were you refering to the wet noodle?


DefaultGuy ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 3:04 AM

file_35657.jpg

Here's a reference image. Time for this old bugger to get things packed for my holiday time with the wife's family. Bless each and every one, -DefaultGuy


Netherworks ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 3:04 AM

I have a fondness for Parasitic aliens, from the critters in "Aliens" to the Star Trek earwig things to Bore Worms in "Flash Gordon". CrytoPooka nailed it - Flash Gordon.

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Netherworks ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 3:06 AM

Sorry, meant CryptoPooka... this cough syrup's got my keys moving again. Blast it.

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Hisminky ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 3:25 AM

Cryto Pooka OMG. A new Female Superhero. see me swoon at Klytus.


FyreSpiryt ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 6:48 AM

coughs Can someone please explain to me why it is so bloody difficult just to be nice to each other? What is it about this concept that is so difficult to understand?


Lapis ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 6:55 AM

Do I get credit for not retaliating?


Migal ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 7:21 AM

Lapis,

I'll give you credit for not retaliating. I also have to give credit to Scott for an inspired and hysterical verbal barrage. Then again, I'm so new, my credit giving means squat.

One newbie observation that is probably objective because I don't know any of you: Whether it is over here, or over in the threads at PP, certain individuals regularly exhibit an over-inflated opinion of themselves and not surprisingly, it is the same individuals on both web sites. I'm wondering why anybody pays attention to these people? Or, would ignoring them be bad form?


Lapis ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 7:31 AM

Inspired?


Questor ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 8:12 AM

Fyrespirit: That's easy, it's because they're like spoiled little children, have to have their little bit of limelight and spirits help anyone that dares try to take it away or question it. They're just acting out. A hissy here, a hissy there and a bit of tantrum stomping when they get their legs slapped. It is rather sad and pathetic to see CL employees reducing themselves and responding in the manner of a lowly forum weasel - especially as they are company representatives - personal time or not, but it is true to displayed form and method for them. Besides, this is their new pet forum and site, and they want to play in it. :) Expect to see more of it. Migal whittered: inspired and hysterical verbal barrage Say what? Oh my, you really haven't been here long have you? Little Scottie's tirade up there is not a verbal barrage and hardly inspired or hysterical. He's done better in the past - ok not often but he has - but it's a rather feeble attempt compared to some of the messages in this and other forums. Don't worry, unfortunately you'll see some more if you hang around and then you'll see how rather sad Scott's actually is. I reckon he's just trying to press buttons and get someone to shout TOS.


Questor ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 8:14 AM

Oh oops, forgot the paragraph break in that one. Oh for an EDIT POST facility here... :(


Migal ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 8:18 AM

Yes, inspired. As in, a good effort. A nice try. A worthy contribution to my otherwise humorless morning, almost like he'd received divine creative assistance. I do not intend that as an insult to you. I know neither you nor him, so I really can't testify as to the accuracy of Scott's statement. I'm just complimenting his wit.


elgeneralisimo ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 8:28 AM

Yes, yes, this has been immensely fascinating and all but it still doesn't answer the really important question, Does Lyrra's "moderating leathers" have studs or not ?


Migal ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 8:39 AM

Questor, I wish I could find some of the funnier threads. I stumble around and look through history, and I certainly see a lot of anger and bravado, but I haven't been lucky enough to hit a really good batch of comedy. In case you're wondering, there is a specific reason I liked Scott's volley. That one particular paragraph directed at Lapis (bless his being a good sport about it), was refreshingly blunt. There's so much innuendo and agenda here that I absolutely loved watching somebody throw subtlety out the window and basically spout, "Guess what? I don't like you." Granted, it's probably easy for me to laugh because I have no personal affiliations. Of course, that's the beauty of being nobody.


Hisminky ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 9:23 AM

And of course, Emperor Ming dint like anyone. Well except for Dale. Please tell me someone is modeling Klytus? Please?


DefaultGuy ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 9:28 AM

I'll take a stab it him over my vacation time off. This will give me a chance to get caught up with 3D Studio Max 5. Anyway, my family and I got a plane to caught later on today. Take care and be well, -Brian


Questor ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 11:49 AM

Migal. Guess what I don't like you. That's perfectly acceptable under Renderosity guidelines. Being refreshingly blunt isn't. Now I'll give you that, Scott was refreshingly blunt which is contrary to recent behaviour from him where he's been irreverant, silly, downright daft, amusing and evasive. Blunt he was, and it was refreshing, but it's not allowed here. The tone, personal nature and language used in his comment to Lapis goes against the "laws" on this site. Of course, Scott will get away with it, whereas myself or Lapis or some others would get a warning or a 24 hour ban for it. But that's part of the amusement here. Finding ways to insult people without getting caught doing it. You see, the big black eared mouse that runs this site has a problem with allowing people to self regulate themselves, so we're all reduced to saying things in as round about a way as possible. That's why you're finding lots of anger and argument and very little achievement - but if you look closely you'll see a great deal of amusement also. It takes 10 to 20 posts for some people to say "screw you pal you're an ass" because it has to be done in the Disney way. This results in long threads full of screeching, screaming and howling, rather than half a dozen posts. Perhaps the most amusing thing in this case is that this thread had been dead for 24 hours before someone chose to re-awaken it. Personally I could give a flying F*&k at a rolling donut what people want to call each other but rules are rules and this site has rules. It has rules for the members, rules for other members, more and different rules for certain individuals and no rules at all for a very few where they're allowed to arbitrarily describe the entire population as morons. :) Welcome to Renderosity, home of obfuscation, rhetoric, pointless verbiage and a great deal of strangeness. It's better than lying in a sewer waiting for the flush and more entertaining than co-starring in a three-stooges movie. :)


jade_nyc ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 12:36 PM

you're getting closer Scott - but Q is definitely not a moron - more like a bloody wanker ;) lol


nikitacreed ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 12:48 PM

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh....I am almost reminded of the old C&D forum and threads I used to love to lurk about and read for neverendign amusement. waxes nostalgic sits in reflection basks in the memories Okay...nostalgia's all done. ;o)


Migal ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 1:07 PM

Err... Not to change the subject, but, since you're here... I'm a big fan of your art, Emily.


nikitacreed ( ) posted Fri, 13 December 2002 at 1:14 PM

OH! Thank you very much Migal! That was really unexpected in this particular thread. LOL! I have to bow out of this thread now. So much hostility is just not good for my innocent and pure eyes. snicker


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