I havent read through this mess so mostly just responding to the title of the thread.

Bondware did not ruin your poser installation.
Your poser installation ceased to function because Smith micro ceased supporting it.

Bondware has attempted to fix this broken installation with varying degrees of success. In addition they have given many many users a free upgrade to a significantly more capable app not to mention some very very nice free content.

It would be decent of the children that keep filling the forum to with their silly tantrums to remember this. Maybe even act with just a touch of common sense and decorum as they try to resolve the issues that pop up... Just a thought..

Also regarding the 'phone home' aspect. I feel that if people havent already set their smith micro install to permanent then they were fine with it before so i dont really get the beef now. If they had already done so then they had no need to upgrade in the first place.

Wow somebody's got his bitter pants on

tonyvilters posted at 9:46PM Tue, 03 September 2019 - #4361115

To export tubes, you need a plumber.

if rendersoty had had beta testers, that thing would never have been released. Now they are asking for early adopters.

The gang, has no clue what they are doing.

I think a sub only model would certainly kill the app. Of course as soon as that happened its 'free competition' would certainly become a paid subscription as well.

As stated previously the primary reason for this bridge release (11.2) is to transfer poser to the new licencing system. Major bug squashing efforts or additional features were never in scope for this update.

I doubt you'll see anything like what you can get for PE anytime soon. I'm still not sure what you mean by 'working' but if it's just a sculpt, HD morphing would allow for whatever geometry is needed to make whatever detail you need.

Working? What do you need it to do? Manual labour? Clerical? Seriously though, it's maybe not porn ready, but she isn't exactly a Barbie doll down there either. HD morphs by BH I think add some detail as well

Awesome!

Well damn.
Now I agree with vilters. Didn't see that coming.

Jk :) <3 tonyvilters posted at 11:05PM Thu, 18 July 2019 - #4357380

Cloth room and fitting room could be combined but for that to succeed properly Poser needs to go to single vertex group figures and single vertex group clothing..

Current Fitting room situation is like this. => The clothing puts you on. => The clothing has controlled shrinking to figure, and gets your rigging. => Result, the clothing puts you on.

Later I also filed another enhancement report about => You put on your clothing. => Hard to explain in a few words, but a reverse or a live Fitting room. => But that did not make it.

I filed a demo of a fully rigged single vertex group clothing. I also filed a demo of a fully rigged single vertex group figure because I truly believe that's the future.

There are certainly improvements to be had in the cloth room. I know it's a ton of work, but I'm thinking that a full redo is required. Something much quicker. User friendly. What would be very cool is if the collision part of it could be leveraged to aid in conventional rigging and morph following of clothing items. That is something that could really help alleviate the content crisis that seems to choke out every cool new figure

Yep. Do this. 100, 200 or400 is a lot to invest unless you are already famiar with thd product and know its value.

The challenge is making debut good enough that it conveys the value of the full program but there still remains enough differentiators to entice customers to spend on the upgrades. It's a fine balance.

AmbientShade posted at 10:45AM Thu, 18 July 2019 - #4357042

Bring back Poser Debut and make it FREE.

Seriously.

Treat it as a loss leader.

This is how you attract new customers and compete with other software that is and has been free for years.

I've been waiting for a post like that.. Almost deserves its own sticky or announcement in the forum. I never would have seen it if you hadn't posted it.

Deecey posted at 9:04PM Sun, 14 July 2019 - #4356989

Joe@HFG posted at 2:59PM Sun, 14 July 2019 - #4356985

meatSim posted at 1:47PM Sun, 14 July 2019 - #4356979

I feel that this last bit of the topic really didn't warrant the negativity and personal vitriol displayed... Perhaps I'm a fool for expecting a poser forum discussion to rise to the level of behaviour I expect from young children. :(

Asking if they got the source code?!? Or planned Linux Version? Or if we could buy them Open Sourcing Poser? I mean, I admit I'm frequently tone deaf... but, "vitriol"?

Renderosity has already made it clear that they intend to update Poser, and not let it languish. This pretty much makes it obvious that they have the source code. Also getting old team members as well as new involved in the process of handling the transition and future updates.

Poser Transition Update

Was referring to the little soars and animosity just previous to your posts

Joe@HFG posted at 9:02PM Sun, 14 July 2019 - #4356985

meatSim posted at 1:47PM Sun, 14 July 2019 - #4356979

I feel that this last bit of the topic really didn't warrant the negativity and personal vitriol displayed... Perhaps I'm a fool for expecting a poser forum discussion to rise to the level of behaviour I expect from young children. :(

Asking if they got the source code?!? Or planned Linux Version? Or if we could buy them Open Sourcing Poser? I mean, I admit I'm frequently tone deaf... but, "vitriol"?

I feel that this last bit of the topic really didn't warrant the negativity and personal vitriol displayed... Perhaps I'm a fool for expecting a poser forum discussion to rise to the level of behaviour I expect from young children. :(

Sorry. This is going to be inflammatory. Seems like more bullshit from the "armchair on the sidelines, shit on everything and contribute nothing" crowd. Maybe that's inaccurate or unfair and if so I apologize. I honestly don't get what childish grudge the rendo crowd has against E. With as small as the community has become, with poser being in as deep of a shit hole as it currently is, the sentiment of 'pitch in or F off' come to mind.

That being said, no, becoming more like daz is not the way to go. If posers' remaining community wanted it to be daz they'd be using daz. Posers new owners don't have the time or resources to out-daz daz.

Figures aren't the problem. There is nothing wrong with E or Lafemme. Content for figures is the problem. If there is ways they can change poser that makes content easier or more portable that should be the focus. If a figure, exotically rigged or not, exposes bugs or deficiencies in the way the app works they should certainly address those, even if it does bruise inflated egos.

wolf359 posted at 11:59PM Sat, 06 July 2019 - #4356238

I think the question is too open ended and vague You may as well be asking: "what makes a good Pizza?"

Well ...you will get a variety of subjective answers based on wether the person is a vegeterian (No meat). A muslim ( meat, but no pork products) or lactose intolerant ( no cheese)or even wheat sensitive etc etc.

People can bang on all they want about their personal requirements such as "nice detailed feet" or the ability to morph from a cute infant to"Thanos" or the "Hulk"

But none of that matters if the figure has no content supported by UNIFORM STANDARDS, rigidly enforced by the content creation tools of the native/target program.

Bondware is finally in the position to do this with poser,the RMP and whatever figures become the "flagships"

Now before anyone bleets that such an "autocratic" system is "too much like Daz " and that "stifles" the creativity of all of the special Snowflake creators who will have to conform to the will of the gatekeepers.

I humbly suggest you look at other markets and the companies that have risen to dominate them.

Apple: starting with the return of jobs and the killing of the "Mac Clones" that had quality standards all over the spectrum.

Today very nearly sovereign entity more valuable than Exxon Mobile,only producing expensive luxury brand computers with rigidly controlled hardware specs.

Then the IPhone with a controlled retail outlet, forcing App developers to meet the uniform standards for the IOS platform.

The same business model with google and Android OS.

Now take a look at the long sad history of sony's consumer electronic division,one failed closed format ,music playing, hardware device after another.

Each with different physical content delivery mediums.expecting consumers to repurchase their Pink Floyd collections
over and over with each new innovative "mini-disc" etc

By the time the digital MP3 format liberated everyone from ever changing physical delivery mediums no one cared about a sony "walkman/discman"music player and were all using Apple Ipods.

Now consider the long ,sad history of the third party "Saviour figures "for poser, after Daz effectively abandoned the poser platform in favor of their own where they control both the content creation standards AND the Primary retail outlet ( See Apple,see Google).

Even Hivewire requires a Submission of DAZ genesis content to have a matching product for THEIR native figures and lafemme's team seems to be at least trying to have some uniform content creation standards IMHO.

NONE of the failed predecessors even bothered with the pretense. Each Apparently built a figure informed by a coffee klatch commitee of tribal loyalists, who themselves were not active content creators/merchants ,but easily impressed by Nerdy McNerd technobabble about exotic rigging schemes and bloviating "mission statements" accompanied by brobdignagian forum signature banners " ..They are coming!!"

Some decided make the noble sacrifice for "the good of the community" and provide all of the content support for their exotic, nonstandard figures themselves

To his credit, at least Anton Kissel actually toiled for a few years supporting Apollo Max Likely fueled by personal hatred of ,and a desire for"revenge" against his former Affilate ..Daz inc.

And now we see Mr: " I am not a business man" .. "I am Crowd sourcing further development" of my exotic nonstandard Female figure.

Posting recently the that if Bondware is "For Real" and willing to remake the rigging system of poser to conform to his exotic Female figure. He may consider revisting that effort....wow!!

IMHO Bondware should look at history and choose wisely ,their course, going forward.

Awesome! I hope you do decide to release him.. Looks great