Tried Primorge's method. Live preview, IBL light. Just a test, I know the styles of the models clash.

I think transmapped hair has to be rendered. It just doesn't look right in preview.

I wonder if it's possible to modify sketch presets so the lines are more broken.

I think I'd also turn off shadows next time (at least for the hair). I don't care for how the hair shadows turned out.

Used Hartybart's method. With the "soft light" blending mode.

Sort of. I used a Preview render for the lineart, because the hair didn't look good otherwise.

I rather like it.

Ideally you want the version of Dynamic Auto Painter that runs as a native Photoshop plugin rather than a standalone. I forget exactly what it's called. Ah yes, here we go.... it's the $100+ "Photo Reactor + Reactor Player for Photoshop". Basically DAP for Photoshop, and it has basically the same Graphic Novel filter but more easily tweaked for humanising line-art from Firefly. Then you can include it in a custom Photoshop Action, once you get the workflow nailed down in a notebook and can then automate most of it.

Thanks. I might buy it when it goes on sale. I think that's how I got the standalone version.

Such a pity you can't run the latest G'Mic. For Photoshop CC you should be able to drop the .8BF file in  C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-ins\CC and it should just work. At least on Windows. Could be that you use a Mac? I never knew Mac users couldn't run it. They do have an online version, so you can see what you're missing. Then perhaps look at various Mac software that includes it as native - Krita, digiKam, or even (shudder) Gimp.

It's the uncanny valley I dislike. I think a lot of us Poser users don't even see it very well any more, because we're so used to it.

And I think it's actually worse now than it used to be. Because Superfly can be so realistic. Some things like glass and metal can look photographically real, which makes less realistic stuff like skin look jarring. Hair generally never looks real in Superfly.

Adobe says GMIC is not compatible with the latest version of Photoshop. Guess I shouldn't have updated.

I think I know why I never used GMIC. It just won't install on my system. I've installed filters before with no problem, but I cannot get GMIC to load for love or money.

HartyBart posted at 5:57 AM Sun, 14 May 2023 - #4465277

Forget all about Photoshop Actions. Photoshop plugin filters such as Mediachance's products and G'MIC are your friends there, and are all you need - and one of them is free.

I have downloaded G'MIC but I don't think I've ever used it. I'll have to experiment.

I don't really care about consistency, and I'm not planning to make a comic or sell anything. I just want to make stuff for myself. Good tips for others who might have different aspirations, though. I have noticed that anything that looks hand drawn gets way more love on social media than even the best 3D render.

Thanks, Primorge. I really like this one:

Did you have to do anything special with the textures?

Interesting. I routinely get an error message upon starting Poser, about failing to load a .xml file or something. I just ignore it and it's fine.

It's not all the time. Mostly when I haven't opened Poser in awhile. Happens occasionally with all three versions of Poser I currently have installed.

Holy crap. Content Paradise? RuntimeDNA?

It sounds like it hasn't been updated in years. I'm surprised it's only Poser 13 that has an issue. If this is the problem, F-Secure should be having similar problems with Poser 11 and 12, too.

I don't care for video tutorials either. If I'm Googling for help, I usually add -youtube to avoid videos, if possible.

In some cases, video makes sense, but I think the huge move to video instead of images and text is because it's easier to monetize video. Just a lot more profitable.

randym77 posted at 1:39 PM Fri, 5 May 2023 - #4464354

Where are these scripts. that remove bump maps, remove clutter, etc.?

Poser 12: "Python script to disconnect all bump maps - P12" free at ShareCG.

Poser 11: "Simple Python script to disconnect all bump maps" free at ShareCG.

Render preset: "Poser - a toon outlines render preset for Firefly" free on ShareCG. (Use the above scripts with this).

Poser 12: "Poser 12 helper scripts and perma-palette" free at ShareCG (a set, has "Remove Wires in Preview", toggle light wireframes in Preview, without turning lights off - "Remove Wires" also works in Poser 11).

I always have "use external binary morphs" unchecked. It's less buggy than it used to be, but as of Poser 11 I've still had it occasionally nuke hours of work due to corrupting the file. The last time, I had ten figures, all dressed and posed.

I ended up going through the CR2 in a text editor, and removing all the calls to external morphs. The file opened then. The figures were all in their default settings, so I had to re-create all the characters, but it was better than having to dress and pose them all again.

It's much easier to activate the morph channels and save the figure back to the Library so you can use it from any runtime.

For some reason that doesn't work very well for me. Even with the same version of Poser, I often have to re-inject the morphs in a saved figure.

When I loaded a saved M4 for the first time in Poser 13, it gave me an error message about being unable to find [morph names]. Copied the !DAZ folder over from Poser 11, and all was well.