One of the tricks  I use for this is to change to the top down view in poser to look at the placement. This helps me to see things that are out of place easier and then move the x,y,z around. Try looking at it from different angles so it is easier to see what is out of place.

There is a "Remove Unused Dials" in Poser File Editor if you happen to have that around.

Cool! Great work.

Attached Link: Robots

Attached Link: Crowd

I use the Morphing Clothes program to do it with the “Enable Cross Talk” checked so that the clothes auto-conform.

I ran some tests that were interesting. I loaded a V4 without the body morphs and turned the custom morph in the clothing to “1”. The clothing stretched out here and there but not to the extent that the breast and hips morphs would have taken it. The custom morph seems to be made as though the other morphs were not there when it was created, even though they were.  Next I injected the body morphs and it jumped into shape with no poke through and no problems. When I then set the custom morph to “0” the poke through was back.

I’m going to run some more tests in an external modeling program to see it this is right. If it is right, I would have to make the changes to the standard V4 without morphs to get it to work. This would make it very difficult to make an add-on morph external to poser.

I hope this is not the case.

Paloth, that sounds great. I'm going to check it out.

I understand your problem and here is what I have done in the past. I used the morphing tool in poser to make the changes I wanted. I have never been able to get it to work outside poser so I am watching this thread closely.

I had made a character morph with dials and wanted to make clothes for the character. I injected all of the morphs into the clothing as an exact match for the character. When I put the clothes on the character, there was some poke through. I started the morphing tool in Poser Pro 2012 and created a custom morph that fixed all of the poke through problems. This custom morph works perfectly and is used by setting the custom morph that fixes the clothes to “1”. When set to “0” the poke through comes back.

I hope we both learn something from this thread.

The strange thing is that with the PMD off, the animations never fail to save properly. It could be that the changes they made are not in effect when the file is an animation file. I'll mention that to them.

I'll send SM an update. I have talked to them in the past, but not since 3.1

My issues are gone for everything except the animations. It may well be an animation issue.

Yes wimvdb I'm afraid I still have the problem, but I am working with very complex files. Animations with thousands of frames and dynamic cloth and hair. I don't seem to have problems with something simple, but I have it unchecked for now.

Definate file corruption for me in PP2012. As mentioned above, I use a lot of "save as" as I'm working on a project.

I use Poser Pro 2012, but I have seen it there sometimes. See if "Use External Binary Morph Targets" is checked under General Preferences, Misc. If it is, uncheck it and try again. It may not work, but it's worth a try.

You're right, ElZagna. I didn't read that far down. Nice catch.

Really beautiful work.

Attached Link: Requirements

"All files should adhere to the proper file structure for the software it is intended to be used in. Poser products should follow the path :Runtime: ..., etc.."

Rendo's presumption seems to be that people use external runtimes to organize rather than changing the library structure.

Product creators are held to strict standards and their products fail if they don't do it the way rendo requires. Check out the "Requirements" link above. I'm pretty sure that is why it was put into the same file with the CR2, since that is where Poser puts it.