Hispanic, good, I forgot about the term - and as I am not a native speaker I am always a bit afraid to choose the wrong term. But at least with regions/countries/continents you can't go wrong. And just think about all those arabian belly dancers, thai-dresses, kimonos, geisha hair-do's and... and... we have in the marketplace!

I like ethnic characters and clothes a lot as well (as long as they are not silly caricatures, but I did not see one for a long, long time) and as no one would be affronted if someone sells a girl with blonde braids, tulips and clogs as "dutch" or a woman with a beer, a pretzel and a dirndl as "german" (although these are clichés) I very much hope that it is okay to call a  character with dark skin, curly hair and a colorful kaftan "african" as well (although it is a cliché as well - but a beautiful one).

I still have the oldest head (as I like the grown-up ladylike look of it) and the second version. Both work fine - and so I want to make sure that I add the new face as a third option as to me the three look like sisters of different age and character. Good to hear that I can install them all without destroying one. And yes, using two of them together does bizarre things, I already did this by accident ;)

Gabriel, I just pop in to say thank you and tell you what happended today. I came home, took a look into Renderosity and wow... a new Blackhearted-Doll, a variation of GND for V4! Without reading anything I counted my coins and took her into the basket - to see that I stil own her...?! And my account told me that I get her as an update. VERY generous, thank you a lot!!

...as I like the "old" GND still: Am I able to use both faces, the previous one and the new or should I install the new version to a different location to be able to use both variations?

I dare to push this back into front by suggesting to add the keyword "ethnic" into the list. I use this for my afro-american and asian characters but, unfortunatly, it doesn't lead to them. So it seems that the keyword, when added to the "free" list we can create, doesn't work (does this list work at all?).

So why not add "ethnic", "afro", "afro-american" "asian", "caucasian" to the list of keywords we can choose from. This should be good for many clothes, hairstyles and 2d-products as well. Maybe even a theme called "ethnic" would be a way to go. There are so many things offered that are "region-specific" that there should be a lot of content now and in future to fit into it that it should not be empty for a long time.

Oh, by the way: If any of the mentioned keywords already exists - sorry, I overlooked it.

I will look for the checkbox as the credit was not applied automatically...

Edit: I found the box, it appeared together with the Paypal checkbox. Thanks a lot for helping me out on this!!

As you talk about store credit: I was looking for my monthly PC voucher and could not find it but now, as I read through this thread, I found it as Store Credit. Fine! But: Has someone of you a clue on how to use it?! If I go through the checkout process it seems that the 6 $ are not taken off from the sum...

Now that's something different - very good! Will the hair be included or did you match the hair to an existing one?

Too bad that people react this way. I think that a polite and not too demanding critique can be considered to be a question or idea. And as Antonia was created by the community the whole project was open for ideas. As Antonia is free considering what people want by what they spend is hard - on the other hand the merchant resource I sell is as popular as the one for M4.... and in general non-V4 products sell more steady than V4 products. I tried to interprete this several times but ended up with: If you want more profit at once over a short time do add-ons for DAZ figures. If you want to have something that gives you profit for years go for the poorly supported figures.

You've understood right, EnglishBob, there seems to be a growing interest in higher poly-version. But this is pretty common, V4 went through the opposite discussion and so did her older "sisters".

So far I only had to fix the chin or the elbow so far and from the renders I've made I couldn't tell Antonia's polycount (that I really do not remember at the moment).

odf: dark wheat beer... looks like a mix of me and Leo ;o) I prefer Kellerbier and likewise (Ducksteiner, Detmolder Landbier etc.) , Leo Kristallweizen.  if you pour this together you get at leas the look. But seriously: there's no wheat beer availble down under?!

...and if someone desires a more avarage look there will be morphs or morphing software!

I am glad to hear that you are doing fine! And yes, you mentioned that you moved to Melbourne. Must be a nice city if you feel good without a properly built roof above your head snickers And what I really understand is that you miss the beer! "Flens", if I remember right?!

I sincerely hope that nothing like eve ever happens again.  That was a very sad and disgusting affair.

It happened before and will happen again because there are always people that like easy money. Sad, I know. Things like this lead me to a strange behaviour: Waiting until the first screenshot of the mesh is posted and then decide wether or not to get the new "doll". Since odf (Hi!! Nice to see you!! How are things going for you?!) made Antonia I know that you can't draw them out of the hat like a wizzard does it with a rabbit*.* This has nothing to do with the upcoming Michelle - it was meant the other way: I deign RDNA a squeaky clean and shiny new stand-alone figure!*

I think that the marketplaces all together create what's in the galleries. Just think about new releases by very popular merchants: Suddenly the galleries are full with the hottest product in town - until the next must-have is released. The standard user is not the one who visits forums frequently IMHO - what is a pity because his or her opinion counts.

Michelle looks interesting, I'll wait and see. After the Eva-desaster it would be nice to see a new figure that stays in the marketplace. Hopefully a render with a more "stressful" pose is posted soon!

And about the high poly Antonia: Maybe, if you ask, someone is willing to take the challenge?! Who knows?! I would be interested as well (although she works very fine for me so far).

Waves to BlueEcho with both hands! Hello again!!

What I call the medium-poly Antonia is the standard one everyone uses. Because I agree, there is no high-poly version.

The problem with the what I call the "standard user" is that he belongs to the silent majority. I would so much wish that this majority speaks it's opinion when it comes to new figures and tools so that people get what they desires.

Just type V4 and polygons and you see what I mean. There are countless people who do not want such poly-heavy figures and that don't use it. These speak up and so they get what they desire, sooner or later. The galleries that accompany the stores are not a benchmark for what people want because not all people use 3d for fun, some do not post their works because they are either not allowed to (commercial artwork, advertising) or because they simply do not want their art being stolen. I found that many people buy my products and never show up somewhere - until they write me because of a question about a product and then I see that they are professional users who do book illustrations, advertising and so on.

But as said: This thread started four years ago and contains 393 sites. Many features people ask for now where discussed before and dropped because either no one said "I want it" or because people said "we want something else". There are, for instance, complaints about the mapping - and we discussed about it for weeks. No one beside the "hard core" showed up and said: I prefer this and that. Back then I felt frustrated about the lack of interest - now I know why.

Don't get me wrong: This has nothing to do with you, Esther. It has nothing to do with anybody who takes the time to follow this thread and speak up. It's frustration about the silent majority who takes, tests and says "Bah - thisandthat is not included." - and forgetting that this is a free community project that needs participation at least as a viewer and critiquer.

As said: The problem is that there are two kind of people. The "every 3d-figure is too polygon heavy" and the "I want LOTS of polys" - unfortunatly you can't please them all. At least we have the "mid-poly" Antonia (and people complaining that I made all my poses for her and not for the low-res one... sigh).

What amazes me is that the pretty poly-savy Antonia bends far better than any DAZ figure (until Genesis) I had so far. So I am under the impression that V4 and the older generation have a fine topology but a questionable rigging.

Yep, that's a lot of improvement and I see you fixed some issues I stumbled over. :thumbupboth: Thanks for keeping us up to date - running now to get my SR2!!