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BlueRose: apparently the consensis is that, for the most part, post-processing = your 'second choice'. But as you said, and most seem to agree, it's a matter of choice based on what each artist believes is best for a particular image -in that artist's mind-. Luckily, most folks in this forum, just want to see good art, and aren't worried overmuch about methods. But, the discussions sure are fun! :D
Thread: Why fractals? | Forum: Fractals
"Why does 'nature' use fractal process for creation?"
Simple; once you have a pattern created, reuse it, on varying scales, and in varying positions. Why waste something that works? That is the essence of a fractal's nature: self-similarity and repition of it's parts.
However, I don't believe that "Fractal Mathematics" was "born to describe things in nature..." as Fractographia said. The 'fractal nature' of nature is a hindsight issue. It began as a pure numbers experiment by Mandelbrot, Julia, and others. The art portion arrived when those mathematically derived numbers were plotted in a visual graph of the results, and it was realized then that the results were visually pleasing, and similar to what could be seen in nature. We just didn't have the proper math to describe all of nature's complexity until after fractal math was invented. Thus, the 'art' of fractals is a secondary result of the mathematics.
mytwocentsworthonallthis.....probablymoretosaybutnotjustyet...
Thread: Pros and cons of post-processing | Forum: Fractals
aartika:
The recording is done by a function called "Scripting", which is found under the Objects palette in Painter--(at least from version 5 on, maybe in v4 also...). Essentially, it records every action you take and can be replayed, and even edited on a step-by-step basis. There is a full section in the Help on how to do it. You can do a pic in a small size/low res, recording as you go, then start with a large size/higher res pic and replay. But as dreampaint said, sometimes filters and such don't always translate up quite right, so experimentation is necessary.
As for PSPro, I don't have that prog, so I couldn't tell you--but my gut feeling is no, PSPro doesn't do it.
Thread: Ready! Set! Vote! Seasonal contest voting now! | Forum: Fractals
Yup, this was a toughie!
Spring- 15
Summer- 8
Fall- 8
Winter- 14
Thread: What is this forum for??? | Forum: Fractals
(Rosemaryr brings in plate of chocolate-chip cookies, fresh from the oven, and lots of cold milk, sets up buffet table...)
"Looks like this'll be a long discussion...munchies, anyone?" :)
Thread: Pros and cons of post-processing | Forum: Fractals
My vote: do that which achieves the result you desire.
I have done, and will continue to do, both, depending on my needs for a particular image.
If you do decide to do post work, yes, working large to start with is always a good idea, computer memory and processing capabilities allowing. Also, if you have Painter and use it for post-p, there is a way to record a low-res work session and have the program do the exact same thing in a higher res format. Check around on the web for info on print issues (hint: there's a print forum here at R'osity--you can ask print-specific questions there), and there are many many places that discuss other graphics apps (hint: R'osity forums...)
Hope this discussion topic helps...
Thread: What is this forum for??? | Forum: Fractals
I would like to have discussions, myself. But being non-math minded, can't get into any in-depth formula banter. ;)
How-done-its would be good--but with so many different proggies out there, it would be difficult to say "Well, you push this button and get that result..."
What's left is critiques...and that's more an artistic judgement call. Composition, color, etc.
For example, I could say something like: "I don't generally like to do the 'traditional' Mandelbrots and Julias, preferring to explore the fringes of a fractal, where discontinuities and isolated elements occur." Would that start someone else talking??? (We'll see. Stay tuned, same frac-time, same frac-channel...)
Thread: plugins???? | Forum: Bryce
This allows 2d alterations of your -terrain's g2h pic-. You can make some interesting terrain effects with these.
Thread: Frustating Copy and Paste Problem!!!! | Forum: Fractals
With the zipped data base from the UltraFrac site, enter the zip file you have downloaded in WinZip (or the equivalent zip reading program you have), check the file extension and tell your zip progam to unzip that file to the correct subfolder. No need for cut+paste there.
The subfolders and their related extensions are:
Alpha...... .ual
Formula.... .ucl, .ufm
Fractal.... .uxf
Gradients.. .ugr
Parameters. .upr
From there you simply open UF and access the different items from the programs menus.
For the emailed parameters....don't have any experience there, perhaps some of the more experienced UF folk who are on the email List can help.
Thread: three uploads a day is just not enough | Forum: Fractals
As someone else with tons of stuff to upload also, it just forces me to be very selective with what I choose.
Call it practice for the artist's eye: Is this one or that one the very best it could be? Or could it stand a bit more compostition, color tweaking, or something??
And yes, the forum is a good place to show off stuff that just demands to be seen after the regular uploads are done. :)
Thread: New to Forum and Fractals | Forum: Fractals
One: You are NOT in the wrong forum. You are definitely in the right forum. :) Welcome!
Two: For tutorials, the most recommended coverage for UF, is to be found at
http://www.parkenet.org/jp/ufjumpstart.html
In fact the first tute there features a spiral and how to locate it. And with pics, you can see what you might miss from a printed version.
Three: A lot of the improvements in a fractal's looks comes from the colors used on it. Don't be afraid of changing your color gradients.
Four: UF features layers, and blending methods, which can add a tremendous oommph to an image.
Five: PLAY! Push buttons, change values, etc. Be like the Elephant's Child: Go and Find Out. :)
Thread: One Fractal = Three pictures | Forum: Fractals
Thanks for the links, Arista. I have bookmarked them and will study the tech at leisure.
What follows is --pure--- opinion. Ignore, agree, or flame as desired.
While watermarking and filing for copyrights, and other legal methods of protection are all good, and I approve of having the tech available for legitimate uses, I also believe that as a deterant to theft, they have a basic flaw.
There are people who just don't care. Or they don't think the laws of the artist's country of origin affect them.
As mentioned, my answer to the situation is to only put up on the web those images with a size, and a compression ratio, such that if a thief wants to create a print, or a large wallpaper version (the two most common reasons for art theft) he would have to increase the size to the point where the compression artifacts would be clearly visible, reducing the usage the thief would get from it. And I reserve the high quality versions for legitimate inquiries.
(grin) I'm sure this topic gets a lot of airing from time to time on every art forum on the web, so I won't carry on any longer. Every artist must choose his/her own path. I just hope I have given folks another insight on the problem and possible solutions.
Thread: A comment | Forum: Fractals
No, I have a registed domain site of my own, hosted by a friend. But that one is more of my 3d and mixed media art, and takes a bit of care to keep updated and looking right. With R'osity supplying the basic page layout, I can easily add pics, so I feel easier about showing more of my 'pure' fractal work.
If you want to visit my other works,
http://www.rosemaryr.com
is the web address.
Thread: A comment | Forum: Fractals
A good point about people not going out of their way to see fractals, firefly. I do know that when I put my fracs in with my other art, there is a greater chance of having them seen by a wider range of people, so I will continue to put the best and select pieces in there.
But, I also wanted to share more of my work--variations on a theme, so to speak, with others that specifically know fractals and like to talk about them. Thus, I've opened a gallery here at R'osity, just to put up my pure fractal work, and why I've gladly joined in discussions in this forum. I've accepted the smaller audience as a tradeoff for a more informed audience.
mytwocentsworthonthetopic:)
Thread: One Fractal = Three pictures | Forum: Fractals
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"Higher pack?
Do you mean more variations, or larger size, or higher res?
The answer is 'yes' to all, but....
I don't usually do larger sizes/higher res images for web presentation due to image theft problems, which I have seen all too often. Because the web is worldwide, and all too many countries have little or no copyright laws, there is no real protection for an artist posting on the web, except for that artist to not upload high-quality pics. (Sorry about the lecture, but this is the only way I know to spread the word.)
I will do it to send an image directly to an individual who would like to print it, if said person asks me directly. I am willing to share, but I like to have the knowledge of where my stuff ends up beforehand, and have control of it's usage.
(...hops off of soapbox.....)
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Thread: Pros and cons of post-processing | Forum: Fractals